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Show HN: Straight2Spam - Send your email right to someone's spam
folder
Author : adnanaga
Score : 62 points
Date : 2020-05-27 21:25 UTC (1 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (straight2spam.com)
| notadog wrote:
| Keep in mind that this has the possibility of creating an awkward
| situation if someone notices what you added to the email.
| MattGaiser wrote:
| Even better. You can claim the email is phishing.
| hckr_news wrote:
| Why do I feel like this is something Larry David's character in
| Curb would just love.
| garaetjjte wrote:
| Spam folder is one of things that annoys me in email. It really
| doesn't make sense: if message is spam, then why store it at all?
| But legitimate messages silently going to spam folder is
| critical, unacceptable failure. You could regularly browse spam
| folder, but then.. what's the point? You would be skimming
| through all the junk anyway, that's defeating whole purpose of
| filtering.
|
| Personally I don't have spam folder: either message is rejected
| immediately at SMTP time, or it goes straight to my inbox.
| (another thing that annoys me is greylisting, it just breaks
| instant messaging for no good reason)
| LeoPanthera wrote:
| Most spam filters do silently delete messages that they are
| particularly confident about.
|
| But spam detection is not black and white. The existence of
| "maybe" spams means that you need to let some through.
|
| Having a separate folder is still useful because you can check
| it less often, and have no notifications for it. I check mine
| every couple of days or so. No email is so urgent that I _need_
| to see it in 24 hours.
| notkaiho wrote:
| You seem to be very convinced that there is an efficient way to
| filter 100% of spam without false positives. Which seems
| optimistic if you have ever dealt with email, text analysis or
| any aspect of spam detection.
| garaetjjte wrote:
| Obviously perfect method doesn't exist. But sender must be
| aware of delivery failure, silently diverting messages from
| inbox is unacceptable.
| jobigoud wrote:
| No they are saying that since 0% false positives is not
| possible we still need to browse the spam folder which
| defeats the whole point.
|
| If there is a subset of messages for which we can be 100%
| then these messages don't need to be stored.
| CrazyStat wrote:
| An imperfect classification is still useful. I can focus on
| messages that are more likely to be important most days,
| and only check the spam folder once a week or so. Checking
| the spam folder generally requires little attention and can
| be scheduled for when I'm tired/distracted/whatever.
| axlee wrote:
| Storing spam messages does make sense. If you asked me the
| number of times when we've sent something to someone, they told
| us "We haven't received anything", and we answer "Check your
| spam", and there it is...
|
| Checking the spam folder is useful when you _know_ something
| should be there. It 's not made to skim through the junk in the
| hopes of finding a mislabeled email. And storage is so cheap
| nowadays that it doesn't make sense to _not_ store everything
| to shave a few megabytes of space.
| crispyporkbites wrote:
| I suspect this would actually get through a lot of advanced spam
| filters. It would be easier to just send an email "from" you
| through a relay that has no dkim or spf configured, that will
| always land in spam.
| gruez wrote:
| Agreed, if spf/dkim of the email checks out, and they replied
| to your messages before, chances are that it will go through
| regardless of content.
| somishere wrote:
| Would have appreciated a snail mail version of this for my
| wedding ...
| comboy wrote:
| Or just set up your own SMTP server ;)
| tradewarsonlyn wrote:
| As some who has suffered through managing a qmail smtp cluster
| and dealing with DNSBLs, allow me to say just one thing: Very.
| Underrated. Comment.
| mmastrac wrote:
| Yep. Just send it from a residential IP.
|
| I ended up subscribing to an SMTP service that explicitly
| masked my home IP as Google's sending service included it and
| was causing my emails to my bank to automatically get flagged
| as spam.
| loltyler1 wrote:
| eZii app of the day
| sprior wrote:
| Cute, but you could also just include the eicar text:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EICAR_test_file
| sprior wrote:
| Actually I got my test signatures mixed up for a second, what
| you want is GTUBE: https://spamassassin.apache.org/gtube/
| adenner wrote:
| Why not both?
| millette wrote:
| Small print inspiration. I miss you Nathan!
|
| https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3844780/
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