[HN Gopher] Source code of "Delores: A Thimbleweed Park mini-adv...
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Source code of "Delores: A Thimbleweed Park mini-adventure"
released
Author : Audiophilip
Score : 144 points
Date : 2020-06-21 16:31 UTC (6 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (grumpygamer.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (grumpygamer.com)
| ocdtrekkie wrote:
| It's a little sad he isn't interested in taking PRs to improve
| the game, even if I appreciate why: He actually believes in real
| testing.
|
| One would hope a PR might at least be considered for inclusion
| when/if he does another update release of his own in the future.
| leetrout wrote:
| Thimbleweed Park is the first game of this type I've ever played.
| It was so good and the story was fantastic.
|
| I recommended it so some friends and they didn't care for the
| story or the art style so I'm not sure why my recommendation fell
| flat but I felt like I was playing a game version of Twin Peaks.
| Quirky but captivating!
|
| I'll have to give Delores an ol play-a-reno!
| HellDunkel wrote:
| I used to play a lot of these games when they had state of the
| art graphics. I loved the art style but the story&characters
| didnt really grow on me.
| koski_pindora wrote:
| You might like Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis too. That
| is an awesome game. I like it as much as any of the films. (Or
| even more. There are at least 3 different ways to play it
| through.)
| wolfgke wrote:
| A cyberpunk-themed adventure in pixel-art style was released
| very recently in May 2020. I mention this since I can imagine
| that some people in the HN audience might love it:
|
| VirtuaVerse
|
| *
| https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=VirtuaVerse&oldid...
|
| * https://www.gog.com/game/virtuaverse
|
| * https://store.steampowered.com/app/1019310/VirtuaVerse/
| shmerl wrote:
| I just finished it not long ago. Some puzzles are very hard
| but the game is pretty good.
|
| The soundtrack is superb too:
| https://masterbootrecord.bandcamp.com/album/virtuaverse-ost
|
| See also: https://valenberg.tumblr.com
| the_af wrote:
| Thanks for posting this! As a fan of adventures, cyberpunk
| and pixel art, I somehow missed this. It looks just like my
| cup of tea.
|
| I don't know if this will repay your helpful post, but be
| sure to check out Gemini Rue, also an old-fashioned point-
| and-click scifi game:
| https://store.steampowered.com/app/80310/Gemini_Rue/
| wolfgke wrote:
| Even thoughit looks like I would like the story setting of
| Gemini Rue, I am not sure whether I would like this game or
| not. The reviews mention action sequences; these are rather
| not my cup of tea.
| martin_bech wrote:
| Then you should absolutely play Monkey Island. Its available in
| a good "remastered" edition.
| https://store.steampowered.com/app/32360/The_Secret_of_Monke...
| dividuum wrote:
| And Monkey Island II as well as Day of the Tentacle. Both
| also remastered:
|
| https://store.steampowered.com/app/388210/Day_of_the_Tentacl.
| .. https://store.steampowered.com/app/32460/Monkey_Island_2_S
| pe...
| pengaru wrote:
| DOTT is particularly special for being a sequel to Maniac
| Mansion, a Gilbert game I had briefly played somewhere on
| the original NES.
|
| The entire Maniac Mansion game is also included in playable
| form within DOTT, on a virtual computer found within the
| game's environment.
|
| I remember first playing DOTT on the PC and discovering the
| embedded Maniac Mansion. Up until that point I hadn't
| realized I was playing a sequel to that NES game I'd long
| forgotten about.
|
| They're fun games, quirky with a great sense of humor and
| playful innocence about them.
| jonny_eh wrote:
| Even though the first two entries in the Monkey Island
| series are classics, my personal favourite is the 3rd, The
| Curse of Monkey Island. Gorgeous artwork, beautiful music,
| and hilarious writing and voice acting.
| riffraff wrote:
| I agree, but art-wise the remastered editions are also
| pretty nice.
| klipt wrote:
| _We 'll fight you in the harbor
|
| We'll battle you on land
|
| When you meet singing pirates
|
| They'll be more than you can stand._
| rmetzler wrote:
| I think it is a must to play the monkey island adventures then!
| If you want to compare this to a movie or show, Pirates of the
| Caribbean would probably be mentioned, but monkey island was
| first.
|
| I grew up with this kind of games and the Lucas arts games were
| the ones I liked the best. Zak McKracken, Day of the Tentacle
| and lots of other adventures was what I like to play in the
| 90s.
| aasasd wrote:
| > _The Pirates of the Caribbean franchise originated with the
| theme ride, which opened at Disneyland in 1967_
|
| IIRC Monkey Island took some inspiration from the rides.
| Chazprime wrote:
| Fun fact: _Pirates of the Caribbean_ began life as a film
| adaptation of Monkey Island at ILM.
|
| Quite a few details survived the script rewrites...remember
| the jailhouse dog with the keys in its mouth in the first
| _Pirates_?
|
| I believe Gilbert has petitioned Disney a few times now for
| the rights to Monkey Island to create new games, though I
| don't think they've responded.
| squeaky-clean wrote:
| I always thought the jailhouse dog was an homage to the
| part of the Disney ride where a dog is holding a key in its
| mouth in front of a bunch of prisoners. I've never played
| any of the Monkey Island games to know if that's
| significant in them though.
|
| https://pirates.fandom.com/wiki/Pirates_of_the_Caribbean_(r
| i...
| bdefore wrote:
| Welcome to a new style of gaming! There's a lot of hidden gems
| out there. Since you're into quirky I highly recommend Dropsy:
| https://store.steampowered.com/app/274350/Dropsy/ ... Really
| unique and excellent character development.
| silveroriole wrote:
| I really wish HN had spoiler tags so I could give a warning
| about why lots of people will find the story disappointing
| compared to classic adventure games. I guess maybe I can say
| that if you were ever annoyed by the ending of Monkey Island 2,
| stay far away from this one.
| Trasmatta wrote:
| I loved the ending of Monkey Island 2, so maybe I would enjoy
| this game.
| sedatk wrote:
| I loved it too. I loved how they connected it to the first
| game in the ending chapter and all the fourth wall breaks.
| tempodox wrote:
| The signals are strong tonight!
| omegabravo wrote:
| because it took me too long to find it I think it is this:
|
| https://thimbleweedpark.com/
| kencausey wrote:
| https://store.steampowered.com/app/1305720/Delores_A_Thimble...
| boudin wrote:
| It's the code source from another game, that is a side story of
| Thimbleweed Park. It's made by Ron Gilbert too.
| lb1lf wrote:
| From the GrumpyGamer post referenced on the GitHub page -
|
| <<The other downside is these really are the dev tools we used to
| make the game, and like most in-house dev tools, they are poorly
| documented and very crude around the edges.>>
|
| What the man said. Sigh.
| lb1lf wrote:
| Just to make it clear - I did not in any way intend to comment
| on the quality of Ron Gilbert's dev tools - however, his
| observation holds true for a number of tools I've been hacking
| together myself - not to mention a few others which I've had
| the mixed blessing of being handed in a 'finished' state...
| hombre_fatal wrote:
| I like how the DeloresDev/Prefs.json you have to update isn't
| JSON but a simple "key: value\n" file.
| phendrenad2 wrote:
| This isn't F/OSS, IANAL but the blog post seems to indicate that
| making a game with it is prohibited.
| Nursie wrote:
| The license is here
| https://github.com/grumpygamer/DeloresDev/blob/master/LICENS...
|
| And yeah, it's not FOSS, it's a limited source license for the
| game code (not the engine) with some non-commercial
| redistribution allowed.
| [deleted]
| phendrenad2 wrote:
| Delores: A Thimbleweed Park mini-adventure is a point-and-click
| adventure game for PC from the developer of Thimbleweed Park, a
| higher-budget kickstartered point-and-click adventure. Here's the
| into blog post:
| https://grumpygamer.com/what_i_did_during_the_pandemic
| flashgordon wrote:
| I was always curious if there was a "first-class" port of the
| scummvm for canvas/webgl? I know there were efforts using
| emscripteen and all that but they all died because of
| discrepancies in architectures etc. Anybody aware efforts in this
| area to write scummvm groundup for the web?
|
| I am really really really hoping the answer is no so then my next
| question would be - anybody interested in building one? :)
| ed25519FUUU wrote:
| > _Don 't believe the myth that programmers can test their own
| code. They can't._
|
| Interesting take that I'm not sure I can agree with. Good
| programmers write good tests because, well, that's one of the
| things that makes a "good" programmer. If you take a dedicated
| test writer out of the picture you must still have a good program
| with good tests.
|
| The whole "blind spot" conundrum posited by the author can simply
| be solved by having at least 2 people on a project. Each one will
| look at the code differently and write tests differently.
| egypturnash wrote:
| I think the rest of the paragraph you're reacting from goes
| into why he believes this, after a long career of writing video
| games:
|
| _Programmers will test for all the conditions they can
| imagine, but a good tester will imagine many many more and
| players will try things programmers never even considered.
| Knowledge of their code is the achilles heel of programmers. I
| 've had code I was 100% sure was rock solid, only to have one
| of our testers reduce me to tears. A good tester excels at
| poking your code in places you never considered. I'm not
| talking about your unit tested sort routine, I'm talking about
| complex puzzle logic and odd UI uses. It's the stuff unit tests
| will never catch, but a good tester will. Testers are the
| unsung heroes of your team, treat them very well._
| A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote:
| It amazes me how much is available today to anyone even remotely
| interested. I still remember cousins having to record radio
| signal on cassette to later use on their computer.
| andretti1977 wrote:
| I did it!!! Can you believe in the 80s you could "download" a
| game simply recording a public radio broadcast?! Amazing times!
| pansa2 wrote:
| Interesting, it's written in "a custom language called Dinky that
| is based on and inspired by Squirrel".
|
| Is it common for games to use custom scripting languages? I
| thought it would be more efficient to use an off-the-shelf
| language - Lua seems to be the most popular?
| 7thaccount wrote:
| One well known one was called "GOAL" I think and was a scheme
| based scripting language from Naughty Dog games. I think it was
| used on one or two games 10-15 years ago.
| sshumaker wrote:
| GOAL wasn't a scripting language - the entire Jak and Daxter
| series, including renderer, physics etc was written in it. It
| compiled to native PS2 code for the EE and VU processors.
| schnable wrote:
| The author has been writing his own game engines and scripting
| languages for decades, so he has a lot to go on, and sounds
| like he enjoys.
| gpderetta wrote:
| And Dinky is of course one of the islands in Monkey Island 2.
| bdefore wrote:
| For those interested in a more modern take on SCUMM, there's a
| new tool built for Unity: PowerQuest
| https://powerhoof.itch.io/powerquest
| butz wrote:
| Note, that actual game engine source is not available. That's a
| bit sad for users who want to run this game natively on Linux and
| other unsupported platforms.
| deckarep wrote:
| That never stopped the gracious folks on the ScummVM team ;)
| niqmk wrote:
| Why steam is free, and you gave a source code? How would you
| planning to make a buck and make a living?
| chrisseaton wrote:
| Explained in the blog post https://grumpygamer.com/delores_dev
| senko wrote:
| He has been making a living out of computer games for decades.
|
| He shared more context about the release here:
| https://grumpygamer.com/delores_dev
| re wrote:
| "Grumpy Gamer" is Ron Gilbert, responsible for SCUMM, Monkey
| Island, Humongous Entertainment, and more:
| https://grumpygamer.com/about
| dang wrote:
| We changed the URL from
| https://github.com/grumpygamer/DeloresDev, which has the code, to
| the blog post that gives a bit more background.
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