[HN Gopher] Pseudonymity as a Trivial Concession to Genius ___________________________________________________________________ Pseudonymity as a Trivial Concession to Genius Author : MindGods Score : 60 points Date : 2020-06-23 18:11 UTC (4 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.scottaaronson.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.scottaaronson.com) | Y_Y wrote: | Maybe this is what MacArthur should give to geniuses instead of | cash. | krallja wrote: | VERY highly voted and discussed topic earlier today: | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23610416 | etrabroline wrote: | I wonder why it isn't anywhere to be found on the home page | then. | erik_seaberg wrote: | It's on page two, I'm guessing because HN prioritizes newer | articles with higher upvote/comment ratios. | throwaway4666 wrote: | >In a year of historic ironies, here's another one: that it was | the decent, reasonable, and well-meaning Cade Metz, rather than | any of the SneerClubbers | | Okay so what's with the obsession with a niche subreddit whose | sole purpose is to dunk on rationalists/SSCers who talk too often | about the IQ of black people. I mean it's not like Aaronson is | himself an HBD blogger. I kind of like Aaronson but his online | anxiety is really getting the better of his judgement. | waterhouse wrote: | To treat this in good faith, I point to here: | https://web.archive.org/web/20200313231227/https://slatestar... | | "A subreddit devoted to insulting and mocking me personally and | Culture War thread participants in general got started; it now | has over 2,000 readers." That is SneerClub. | | "Some people found my real name and started posting it on | Twitter. Some people made entire accounts devoted to doxxing me | in Twitter discussions whenever an opportunity came up. A few | people just messaged me letting me know they knew my real name | and reminding me that they could do this if they wanted to. | | Some people started messaging my real-life friends, telling | them to stop being friends with me because I supported racists | and sexists and Nazis. Somebody posted a monetary reward for | information that could be used to discredit me. | | One person called the clinic where I worked, pretended to be a | patient, and tried to get me fired. | | ... I had a nervous breakdown. It wasn't even that bad a | nervous breakdown. I was able to keep working through it. I | just sort of broke off all human contact for a couple of weeks | and stayed in my room freaking out instead. | | ... The first few [subreddit mods] I approached were positive; | some had similar experiences to mine; one admitted that even | though he personally was not involved with the CW thread and | only dealt with other parts of the subreddit, he taught at a | college and felt like his job would not be safe so long as the | subreddit and CW thread were affiliated. Apparently the problem | was bigger than just me, and other people had been dealing with | it in silence." | ve55 wrote: | Scott Aaronson has a great reply to a question that directly | answers what you're asking, I will quote it below in full and | link to it: >Would you say that you, | personally, have ever experienced true free will? And if so in | what situation(s)? | | I would say that I exerted the "maximum amount of free will" | (at least, the maximum that I've experienced) in those rare | cases when I did something not because the people around me | wanted or expected me to do it, or because it was the natural | thing to do for someone in my situation, but simply because I | wanted to and damn what people around me thought. | | Here are some examples: | | - In 1994, when I pushed my parents and the administrators at | Hong Kong International School to let me start skipping grades. | | - In 1996, when I left home at age 15, to attend a program at | Clarkson University that I'd literally learned about from a | mass-mailed brochure. | | - In 2000, when I set up a website called "In Defense of | NaderTrading" to try to prevent the election of George W. Bush. | (Had I exerted my free will some more, and gotten more | attention for the site, maybe we would've gotten just 539 more | vote-swaps in Florida...) | | - In 2001, when I dropped everything else I was doing to work | on a ridiculously ambitious problem, one that even Andris | Ambainis hadn't solved: namely, lower-bounding the quantum | query complexity of distinguishing 1-to-1 from 2-to-1 functions | | - In 2002, when I decided to waste a month building a huge zoo | of complexity classes, and another month reading and reviewing | Stephen Wolfram's book (despite being a totally unknown grad | student) | | - In 2005, when I started a blog called (of all things) | "Shtetl-Optimized" | | - In 2006, when I asked my boss, Ray Laflamme at the Institute | for Quantum Computing in Waterloo, if I could teach a crazy | course called "Quantum Computing Since Democritus" | | - In 2009, when I spent a whole weekend in a difficult, | contentious, incredibly personal email exchange with some | postdoc in Princeton who I barely knew, then accepted her | invitation to take the train there to continue arguing in | person. (Over the next 3 years, that postdoc would become my | girlfriend, fiancee, wife, then mother of my first child.) | | With these examples in mind, I can finally explain something | that seems to have perplexed many people: namely, why I reacted | to SneerClub and its fellow travelers, not merely as some | annoying nobodies shitposting on social media, but as an | existential threat, a coronavirus of the mind. And this despite | the fact that, at least 3/4 of the time, I'm politically closer | to the sneerers than to those they attack. | | The reason is that, with laser precision, the sneerers target | the urge to "exercise one's free will." Like, they spend hours | perfecting and refining mental kryptonite against the impulses | of nerds like me to say what they're thinking or do what they | want, and damn the disapproval or the quizzical looks of those | around them. The sneerers' worldview, even when one happens to | agree with them, is poisonous to the little hothouse flower of | nerdian freedom that led to almost everything that was good in | my life. | | Source: | https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=4684#comment-1833463 | mellosouls wrote: | _Even though the article was going to be positive_ | | No. That's what the NYT _said_ it was going to be. | | Despite Professor Aaronson's assurances of the writer's good | character and pure intentions in this case, Scott Alexander - | apart from his duty of care to his clients - is wise to not take | that for granted considering his open-minded approach to various | subjects which is liable by certain elements of the Ctrl-Left to | warrant a cancel-attack. | pvg wrote: | _That 's what the NYT said it was going to be._ | | That's what Scott Alexander said the NYT writer said. | Everything we know about this story is entirely his portrayal | and version of it. You can give it as much credence as you like | but it is, so far, one party's representation. | tgb wrote: | Well it's also what Scott Aaron's on says about the story, as | he explains in this post, he knew the writer and knew the | story he was working on. | mjfl wrote: | I would go so far as to say that one would have to be a | complete fool to believe that the article would have been | anything except a smear, painting him as alt-right or | something. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2020-06-23 23:00 UTC)