[HN Gopher] Why Wait for Apple? Try Out the Original ARM Desktop...
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Why Wait for Apple? Try Out the Original ARM Desktop Experience
Today on a RasPi
Author : lproven
Score : 43 points
Date : 2020-06-25 21:37 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| rbanffy wrote:
| You can also buy an ARM-based six-core laptop for $200.
|
| https://store.pine64.org/?product=14%e2%80%b3-pinebook-pro-l...
| easygenes wrote:
| I would really love to see the macOS 11 beta running on something
| other than DTK as a hackintosh.
| brycesub wrote:
| Will hackintosh be a thing once the ARM transition is complete?
| Surely Apple will bake in some security into their silicon that
| will prevent OS11 from running on anything but Genuine(tm)
| Apple Bionic.
| rubber_duck wrote:
| Doesn't need to be security related at all, where will you
| get the drivers for your hackintosh ARM GPU, Network,
| Bluetooth, etc. With Intel Apple was using standard off the
| shelf components, with ARM it's all proprietary and baked in
| to their SoC - why would they write support for any other SoC
| ? Not to mention they will probably include proprietary chip
| specific stuff and assume it's there which will not be
| present on other devices.
| immy wrote:
| As long as there's mutable software binaries, DRM can be
| subverted. If core OS11 software lived on a special R/W chip
| instead of a disk, that'd be quite a move. Apple hasn't even
| done that with iPhone though.
| Wowfunhappy wrote:
| No one has managed to get iOS running on non-Apple
| hardware, how will Apple-Silicon-only macos be any
| different?
|
| I don't see it happening myself.
| rbanffy wrote:
| Very certainly not.
|
| Apple can add all sort of logic in their chips that
| competitors won't be able to replicate.
| guidoism wrote:
| This is kind of a dumb article. It's not like those of us in the
| computer industry don't already know about ARM. Before Apple's
| announcement you could run Risc OS on Raspberry Pi -- It is one
| of the more prominent install images for RPi -- It's not like
| Risc OS is what Mac OS on ARM is going to look and feel like.
|
| Ugh. These kind of articles annoy me.
| hn3333 wrote:
| For what it's worth, I wasn't even aware Risc Os existed and
| I'm in the industry. Just a little perspective.
| utopcell wrote:
| I'm very curious to see this transition to ARM play out. There is
| a lot of software that will now be compiled for ARM that can
| potentially be used in open-source projects on much more cost-
| effective boards. Music (VST) plugins come to mind.
| easygenes wrote:
| Isn't the music industry still reeling from Catalina? Lots of
| 32-bit audio software out there not getting updated.
| 867-5309 wrote:
| anyone making music with a 4GB RAM ceiling is asking for a
| headache
| rbanffy wrote:
| > There is a lot of software that will now be compiled for ARM
| that can potentially be used in open-source projects on much
| more cost-effective boards
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| Mac software will continue to rely on proprietary APIs.
| Software that didn't is most likely already ported.
| johannes1234321 wrote:
| Interesting history piece.
|
| But to answer the question from the title: Since people wonder
| about the MacOS experience on ARM. As the article rightfully says
| phones (thus the probably most used end-user computers) are on
| ARM as well and are being used for many things desktops were used
| before ... :)
| rbanffy wrote:
| Also, even the humblest Raspberry Pi board is orders of
| magnitude faster than the fastest Acorn box.
| rbanffy wrote:
| Someone should port RISC iX to the Raspberry Pi.
| codeulike wrote:
| Yay Acorn Archimedes. Programming it was such fun after a BBC
| Model B, like stepping from a cupboard into a cathedral.
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