[HN Gopher] Community open letter on ceasing renaming Wikimedia ...
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       Community open letter on ceasing renaming Wikimedia to Wikipedia
        
       Author : bpierre
       Score  : 29 points
       Date   : 2020-06-25 22:26 UTC (33 minutes ago)
        
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       | leetrout wrote:
       | I didn't know they were doing this but I agree with the sentiment
       | of the letter. It's no different than any other social
       | technologies... the community builds it then the company co-opts
       | it (and usually monetizes it AND the quality degrades).
        
       | romwell wrote:
       | Oh, it's one of those "if it ain't broken, ruin it by rebranding"
       | moves that we've seen play out so many times, is it?
       | 
       | Great thinking. People know that Wikipedia is a great
       | encyclopedia, it's in the name. Let's make it stand for many
       | things that are not the encyclopedia.
       | 
       | If there was a Wikipedia article about it... Oh wait, there is
       | one:
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand#Brand_extension_and_bran...
        
         | romwell wrote:
         | They are accepting comments at brandproject@wikimedia.org
         | 
         | Here is what I sent them, if anyone wants to follow:
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         | Hello,
         | 
         | I am writing to you regarding the rebranding proposal to use
         | Wikipedia for projects that are not Wikipedia.
         | 
         | In short: please don't. This is a plain example of brand
         | dilution.
         | 
         | The brand has a clear meaning: Wikipedia stands for an
         | encyclopedia. The trust and widespread acceptance of the brand
         | comes from this clear association. Wikipedia doesn't stand for
         | the news. Or for the books. Or for pictures. Or for _media_.
         | 
         | Wikipedia stands for an encyclopedia, which is valued as a
         | source of knowledge, and is held to standards and format that
         | other Wikimedia projects don't have to follow. A "Wikipedia
         | article" is an encyclopedia article. It's not a news piece, not
         | a book, not a picture, not a data set, not a dictionary
         | definition, nor any of the other things that Wikimedia projects
         | attain.
         | 
         | By making Wikipedia an umbrella brand for all of those, you
         | kill the brand, plain and simple.
         | 
         | Please value the efforts of all people who made these projects
         | possible, and keep Wikipedia Wikipedia.
         | 
         | Sincerely,
         | 
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         | 
         | Another option is using the talk page [1].
         | 
         | If you also think that Wiki _pedia_ should only stand for the
         | encyclo _pedia_ , make your voice heard by either of the means.
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         | [1]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedi
         | ...
        
       | lelandbatey wrote:
       | Can we get a little bit of a title change on this? It seemed at
       | first glance like this was people asking to rename Wikimedia into
       | Wikipedia. Instead it's a community letter asking to _cease_
       | renaming Wikimedia into Wikipedia.
       | 
       | Can the title be changed to something like "Community open letter
       | on ceasing renaming Wikimedia to Wikipedia" ?
        
         | bpierre wrote:
         | That's better indeed, thanks!
        
       | x32n23nr wrote:
       | Having multiple great other projects with little recognition (or
       | much less public awareness) than Wikipedia must be challenging,
       | and for all of us, readers, unfortunate. Projects like Wikidata
       | (basis for all knowledge graphs powering search engines),
       | Wikinews (what could potentially be fact checked news in an age
       | of misinformation), etc could all benefit from some raised
       | awareness for all Wikimedia projects. Even raising money from
       | donations, is usually targeted at Wikipedia. I do not how the
       | governance structure of Wikimedia influences the distribution of
       | donations, or whether renaming is meant to influence this.
       | Overall, I see a sincere struggle to get traction around more
       | Wikimedia projects - and I find that commendable.
        
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