[HN Gopher] Community open letter on ceasing renaming Wikimedia ... ___________________________________________________________________ Community open letter on ceasing renaming Wikimedia to Wikipedia Author : bpierre Score : 29 points Date : 2020-06-25 22:26 UTC (33 minutes ago) (HTM) web link (meta.wikimedia.org) (TXT) w3m dump (meta.wikimedia.org) | leetrout wrote: | I didn't know they were doing this but I agree with the sentiment | of the letter. It's no different than any other social | technologies... the community builds it then the company co-opts | it (and usually monetizes it AND the quality degrades). | romwell wrote: | Oh, it's one of those "if it ain't broken, ruin it by rebranding" | moves that we've seen play out so many times, is it? | | Great thinking. People know that Wikipedia is a great | encyclopedia, it's in the name. Let's make it stand for many | things that are not the encyclopedia. | | If there was a Wikipedia article about it... Oh wait, there is | one: | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand#Brand_extension_and_bran... | romwell wrote: | They are accepting comments at brandproject@wikimedia.org | | Here is what I sent them, if anyone wants to follow: | | ---------------------------- | | Hello, | | I am writing to you regarding the rebranding proposal to use | Wikipedia for projects that are not Wikipedia. | | In short: please don't. This is a plain example of brand | dilution. | | The brand has a clear meaning: Wikipedia stands for an | encyclopedia. The trust and widespread acceptance of the brand | comes from this clear association. Wikipedia doesn't stand for | the news. Or for the books. Or for pictures. Or for _media_. | | Wikipedia stands for an encyclopedia, which is valued as a | source of knowledge, and is held to standards and format that | other Wikimedia projects don't have to follow. A "Wikipedia | article" is an encyclopedia article. It's not a news piece, not | a book, not a picture, not a data set, not a dictionary | definition, nor any of the other things that Wikimedia projects | attain. | | By making Wikipedia an umbrella brand for all of those, you | kill the brand, plain and simple. | | Please value the efforts of all people who made these projects | possible, and keep Wikipedia Wikipedia. | | Sincerely, | | --------------------------- | | Another option is using the talk page [1]. | | If you also think that Wiki _pedia_ should only stand for the | encyclo _pedia_ , make your voice heard by either of the means. | | [1]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedi | ... | lelandbatey wrote: | Can we get a little bit of a title change on this? It seemed at | first glance like this was people asking to rename Wikimedia into | Wikipedia. Instead it's a community letter asking to _cease_ | renaming Wikimedia into Wikipedia. | | Can the title be changed to something like "Community open letter | on ceasing renaming Wikimedia to Wikipedia" ? | bpierre wrote: | That's better indeed, thanks! | x32n23nr wrote: | Having multiple great other projects with little recognition (or | much less public awareness) than Wikipedia must be challenging, | and for all of us, readers, unfortunate. Projects like Wikidata | (basis for all knowledge graphs powering search engines), | Wikinews (what could potentially be fact checked news in an age | of misinformation), etc could all benefit from some raised | awareness for all Wikimedia projects. Even raising money from | donations, is usually targeted at Wikipedia. I do not how the | governance structure of Wikimedia influences the distribution of | donations, or whether renaming is meant to influence this. | Overall, I see a sincere struggle to get traction around more | Wikimedia projects - and I find that commendable. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2020-06-25 23:00 UTC)