[HN Gopher] Must ride mule to and from work location
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       Must ride mule to and from work location
        
       Author : eightturn
       Score  : 145 points
       Date   : 2020-06-30 15:18 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.deepsouthventures.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.deepsouthventures.com)
        
       | tbran wrote:
       | Good stuff. This author builds businesses off kind of
       | serendipitous domain name purchases.
       | 
       | Find a domain, build something useful on it, grind for a while,
       | you have a business. He also wrote:
       | 
       |  _I Sell Onions on the Internet [0]_ - He buys the
       | vidaliaonions.com domain and works with local onion farmers to
       | sell them. Has been linked at least a couple times on HN.
       | 
       |  _Want to build a side business? Just buy a great Domain Name
       | [1]_ - I like this idea because it can give you a steady stream
       | of ideas, puts some constraints on you, and you 'll probably be a
       | lot more committed if you plunk down a few hundred or thousand
       | dollars for a domain!
       | 
       | [0]: https://www.deepsouthventures.com/i-sell-onions-on-the-
       | inter...
       | 
       | [1]: https://www.deepsouthventures.com/build-a-side-business/
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | elbigbad wrote:
         | I saw the onion article and ordered 5lbs of Vidalia onions from
         | vidaliaonions.com on a lark because I had never had one. Never
         | again, maybe I just don't have a taste for them, but loved the
         | site and was very happy with the service and product in
         | principle. :D
        
       | thih9 wrote:
       | > At first, I seeded all the jobs myself
       | 
       | What does this mean?
       | 
       | I really hope this isn't generating nonexistent job offers and
       | accepting applications from real people.
       | 
       | Perhaps this was copying offers from other boards, which would be
       | relatively harmless.
        
         | eightturn wrote:
         | author here.. when I started, I already had years of experience
         | in the dude ranching industry, so I simply reached out to them
         | for jobs to post. ie, I seeded, in other words, posted the jobs
         | myself.
        
       | Zhenya wrote:
       | I went to each of the listed sold domains.
       | 
       | Working:
       | 
       | --AppalachianTrail.com [SOLD] |
       | 
       | --BearSpray.com [SOLD]
       | 
       | Broken/parked:
       | 
       | --CowboysAndIndians.com [SOLD]
       | 
       | --WeBuyLand.com [SOLD] |
       | 
       | --Ziplines.com [SOLD] |
       | 
       | --LambChops.com [SOLD]
       | 
       | Thought that was interesting.
        
         | mauvehaus wrote:
         | The content on AppalachianTrail.com is disappointingly shallow
         | to put it mildly.
         | 
         | The second most popular article on the site, about carrying a
         | firearm on the AT, can be boiled down to "the laws are
         | complicated, here's a lawyer joke and 2 links".
         | 
         | Regardless of your stance on guns, an article making an honest
         | attempt to address the question of carrying one might, just
         | maybe, talk about the laws of each of the 14 states the trail
         | passes through and address the question of the various federal
         | jurisdictions the trail passes through as well. Maybe you'd
         | also try to find some hikers who have tried to carry guns and
         | interview them.
         | 
         | The food and water articles are similarly shallow. You could
         | write a chapter or more on each.
         | 
         | The article on menstruation is just outright copied from
         | another blog, with attribution, to be fair.
         | 
         | And there's nothing about the current COVID-19 situation.
         | 
         | Honestly, it's a lot of low-effort unmaintained content that
         | doesn't add much, if anything, to what you can find with
         | several minutes of googling. It's the kind of site that I
         | assume is peppered with ads (or maybe affiliate links, I didn't
         | look too hard) to make a couple of bucks.
         | 
         | Anybody looking for actual information about the AT would be
         | better served by any of the following:
         | 
         | appalachiantrail.ORG <- The ATC
         | 
         | whiteblaze.net <- AT hiker forum
         | 
         | thetrek.co <- formerly appalachianTRIALS.com
         | 
         | https://adventuresinstoving.blogspot.com/ <- This is what
         | actual niche content looks like.
        
           | eightturn wrote:
           | author here.. oddly, I sold AppalachianTrail to fund my
           | purchase of DudeRanch. If I still owned AT, I woulda hiked
           | the whole thing, recorded the experienced on the website, and
           | then maybe hired some ex-hikers to provide guided
           | recommendations for the trail for a small fee. Something like
           | that.
        
         | eightturn wrote:
         | author here. I wish I'd kept Ziplines.. I could build something
         | neat on that. Needed cash at the time, so had to sell.
        
           | Zhenya wrote:
           | That one seems like a good one. Where can I go to zipline in
           | my area...
        
       | yourapostasy wrote:
       | I really like these descriptions of long-tail businesses that
       | connect people with lower and lower economic friction, it
       | fulfills the original wondrous promises of the Net that filled my
       | head when I was first exposed to it.
        
       | walrus01 wrote:
       | I occasionally check random common nouns as domain names.
       | Somewhat surprised that burrito.com hasn't been used by somebody
       | to redirect to a third party food delivery service (Uber eats,
       | doordash, skip the dishes etc) as a portal for finding Mexican
       | food delivery near your location.
        
         | WrtCdEvrydy wrote:
         | how? this is an amazing domain.
        
           | walrus01 wrote:
           | My only guess is that somebody is sitting on it and trying to
           | sell it for an unreasonably high asking price.
        
             | seph-reed wrote:
             | On the profit-type scale going from "doing a service" to
             | "extortion," sitting on domains you have no use of feels
             | much closer to the extortion end.
        
               | celticninja wrote:
               | That's a lot of hyperbole. Just because it is more useful
               | to someone else doesn't make it extortion.
        
               | seph-reed wrote:
               | Closer to the extortion end of the gradient. I don't like
               | to think of adjectives as binary on/off. IMO, they're
               | fuzzy bell curves, overlapping with each-other, with
               | plenty of space in between.
               | 
               | Calling this a "service" would also be a hyperbole I
               | think. It's somewhere in between.
        
             | WrtCdEvrydy wrote:
             | That's the thing... just forward that site down to
             | UberEats's site for 2 hours with an HTTP Header of "X-WANT-
             | MORE-MONEY-CALL-ME: phone number" and you'll sell it
        
               | walrus01 wrote:
               | Without any content or a portal on the site, I wonder
               | what the traffic numbers really look like right now. How
               | many persons are manually typing burrito.com into the
               | browser address bar every day? I've no idea.
        
       | raunometsa wrote:
       | I love nice, humble internet businesses like this!
        
       | reaperducer wrote:
       | I love it when "rural" and "IT" come together. Reminds me of a
       | job listing I came across when I was on the beach a few years
       | ago.
       | 
       | It was for the government of the state in which I lived at the
       | time. It was listed in the IT area. Essentially, the
       | responsibility was to test and maintain computers and their
       | webcams in transmitter sheds at the top of the tallest, most
       | remote mountain peaks in the state. They were part of some kind
       | of state-wide radio network, presumably for forest rangers,
       | firefighters, BLM, and similar types of agencies.
       | 
       | I didn't apply because the job listing included requirements
       | about the ability to handle strenuous hiking, previous experience
       | camping for a week or more at altitude in winter, and various
       | types of outdoorsy skills which I simply don't possess. All I
       | could imagine was spending a week walking up a mountain with a
       | couple of servers strapped to my back in deep snow. Not my scene.
       | 
       | And sadly, because it was a gub'mint job, it couldn't pay extra
       | for the hardships involved.
        
         | chickenpotpie wrote:
         | Another example that is my favorite post on hackernews:
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19728132
        
           | eightturn wrote:
           | thanks so much chickenpotpie (author of both here).. these
           | long form things are challenging to write, so nice comments
           | like this make it worth it.
        
             | bibinou wrote:
             | Hey Peter, you write really well!
        
         | mauvehaus wrote:
         | Which state? Asking for a friend ;-)
         | 
         | In all seriousness, I'm assuming a western one. If the BLM is
         | involved, it's probably not an eastern one.
         | 
         | Honestly, that sounds like an awesome job.
        
         | walrus01 wrote:
         | The WISP last mile, small ISP industry sees a lot of the venn
         | diagram overlap between tech and rural. Lots of places out
         | there in remote parts of the American west which have only one
         | wisp available, or none, and will benefit greatly from
         | starlink.
         | 
         | You see lots of creative stuff out there. Small solar powered
         | hilltop sites. 60cm dish antennas bolted to trees.
        
         | myself248 wrote:
         | Oh yeah, I used to work with a guy who left our suburban
         | telecom equipment installation company, to take a position
         | maintaining remote cell-site equipment up north. Got a company
         | truck and a company snowmobile.
        
         | JoeAltmaier wrote:
         | There are (were) an amazing number of old, reliable, remote
         | systems around that need attention. My first job was with a guy
         | who used to program and maintain the 'computers' that ran the
         | California canal locks and pumps. They were paper-tape operated
         | mostly-mechanical systems installed when the canal was dug.
        
           | walrus01 wrote:
           | The telecom tower climbing industry sees some of this.
           | Mountain top sites that need a high clearance 4x4 in summer
           | and a snow cat to access in winter.
        
         | Jtsummers wrote:
         | Government jobs _can_ provide hazard pay. They just don 't
         | always. They should also provide compensation for having to
         | work weekends and holidays or non-standard shifts. I'm not sure
         | of how every state works, but at the federal level in the US
         | federal employees are actually _hourly_ workers, even working a
         | standard desk job. There is a cap on the total compensation
         | they can get in a year (see secret service members who maxed
         | out their pay with OT taking Trump on trips in his first year),
         | but if you hit that you 're making pretty good money.
         | 
         | Of the states I have worked in as a state employee or knew
         | people who did, it has been mixed. Some hourly some salaried,
         | some have both. White collar jobs (which IT would fall under)
         | were often salaried so that may present issues in getting
         | proper compensation for a job like you describe.
        
       | vageli wrote:
       | > Now, sure, from the outset, I could have viewed this idea from
       | a defeatist attitude, that being, "What? I'm gonna try to compete
       | with Indeed, SimplyHired, Monster, and the like? They're VC
       | backed heavyweights... I have no chance."
       | 
       | It's _something_ to hear others battle with a similar set of
       | demons as myself. How easy it is to get in one's own way. What do
       | I have to lose?
       | 
       | This guy's story reminded me of the person selling onions via the
       | internet (vidaliaonions.com). [0] Turns out it's the same guy!
       | 
       | [0]: https://onezero.medium.com/the-dot-com-don-meet-the-
       | domain-p...
        
         | swinnipeg wrote:
         | It should remind you, it is the same guy!
        
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