[HN Gopher] A 28-year-old with no degree becomes a must read on ...
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       A 28-year-old with no degree becomes a must read on the economy
        
       Author : htk
       Score  : 64 points
       Date   : 2020-07-03 22:01 UTC (58 minutes ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.bloomberg.com)
        
       | ixvvqktiwl wrote:
       | Also check out r/investing or r/wallstreetbets, lots of free
       | opinions on what's happening in the world.
        
         | HenryKissinger wrote:
         | > check out ... r/wallstreetbets
         | 
         | Don't. At least not for anything other than the memes.
        
           | ixvvqktiwl wrote:
           | Honestly I think the average IQ on WSB is pretty high, you
           | just have to learn to sift through the junk. There are plenty
           | of gold nuggets to be found.
           | 
           | Also the memes are great. What's the point in life if you
           | aren't having fun?
        
             | ashtonkem wrote:
             | That sub is for the lulz; it's not a serious analysis of
             | the market. The best description I've heard of it was "a
             | jackass for finance, made all the funnier because you
             | realize that people actually got hurt"
        
               | HenryKissinger wrote:
               | 4chan with a Bloomberg terminal.
        
             | hoka-one-one wrote:
             | IQ has inherently racist origins...I think as a society
             | we'd do better to remove it from our lexicon, as it's
             | simply racialist pseudoscience meant to preserve the status
             | quo.
        
               | danieltillett wrote:
               | Can we please have one discussion that isn't about race.
        
               | [deleted]
        
               | lipstone wrote:
               | Lol, I suggest you don't visit WSB.
        
               | [deleted]
        
           | acwan93 wrote:
           | Serious question: does anyone know when/why that subreddit
           | became what is is today? I used to follow it in the early
           | 2010s and it actually provided some reasonable insights.
        
             | joshmn wrote:
             | I can tell you for sure that Robinhood hasn't contributed
             | positively the quality of content.
        
               | ForHackernews wrote:
               | I have to beg to differ. The Robinhood "infinite money
               | cheat code" was WSB's finest hour.
        
               | OGWhales wrote:
               | "It literally can't go tits up"
        
             | aaaxyz wrote:
             | If I had to guess, Robingood and the burst of the
             | cryptocurrency bubble
        
             | ixvvqktiwl wrote:
             | Idk, it's basically been the same thing for as long as I've
             | been following it, and I started around 2017. The only
             | thing that's really changed is the number of subscribers
             | has exploded.
             | 
             | Here's the front page of WSB from 2016: https://web.archive
             | .org/web/20160706011305/reddit.com/r/wall...
        
         | stopping wrote:
         | There may be lots of free opinions, but I don't believe they
         | have much value to the novice investor. I'll admit there are
         | some hidden gems, but separating the wheat from the chaff
         | requires more insight than these subreddits provide on average.
        
       | DevKoala wrote:
       | His piece challenging Frank Partnoy's fear mongering comparison
       | between CDO's and CLO's is great.
       | 
       | https://nathantankus.substack.com/p/worst-case-scenario-or-i...
        
       | viburnum wrote:
       | Tankus has been studying economics full time for twelve years!
       | He's earned it. His posts used to be not good but he's paid his
       | dues.
        
         | melling wrote:
         | What's the famous saying about the best way to get the right
         | answer? Something about posting it to the Internet and having
         | the crowd correct you?
        
           | gen220 wrote:
           | Cunningham's Law! It is great and has many applications, when
           | you're trying to squeeze good information out of a system
           | that doesn't circulate it naturally.
        
       | donw wrote:
       | Universities, in their current incarnation, offer a poor return
       | on investment.
       | 
       | When a degree was scarce, it was valuable. As was when a degree
       | guaranteed a certain level of knowledge and skill.
       | 
       | But that really isn't the case nowadays. The vast majority of
       | degree programs exist simply to collect tuition dollars, and the
       | students that undertake these programs would be better-served by
       | a vocational or professional education system.
       | 
       | The standard counter-argument here is that you gain social skills
       | in university... but the same is true when you join the
       | workforce.
       | 
       | Germany gets this one right, by the way.
       | 
       | That is not to say that the idea of a university has outlived its
       | utility! We need spaces where curious minds can seek answers from
       | and challenge themselves against well-practiced experts. That's
       | part of how you set a country up for future success.
       | 
       | But that's not what we have now, not from my experience in the
       | United States. What we need are Schools of Athens, but what we
       | have are Temples of Amun.
        
       | vesche wrote:
       | Paywall bypass:                 wget -U "Mozilla/4.0"
       | "https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-02/nathan-
       | tankus-s-newsletter-subscribers-don-t-care-about-diplomas" &&
       | firefox nathan-tankus-s-newsletter-subscribers-don-t-care-about-
       | diplomas
       | 
       | I don't really like when non-formal education is highlighted as
       | surprising in a talented individual. At least in the US, a
       | college education will often put you in serious debt and seems to
       | currently be teaching all sorts of non-technical inaccuracies
       | while ill-preparing people for the real world.
       | 
       | With so much knowledge & resources being available for free
       | online: why would any smart, independent young person want to go
       | to college in the US? The only reason I can think of is to become
       | something that you actually _need_ to go to college for like a
       | doctor or lawyer.
       | 
       | It's pretty crazy when people like Jordan Peterson, who used to
       | teach at Harvard, is suggesting that young people go to trade
       | schools. The college system in the US needs to be restructured or
       | die.
        
         | runawaybottle wrote:
         | It's starting to become an unspoken understanding. The same way
         | we all know just because you got a HS Diploma doesn't mean
         | anything.
        
         | melling wrote:
         | Shouldn't we be willing to reward his effort? It has been a
         | long road.
         | 
         | Does anyone subscribe to his newsletter?
        
           | kelexander wrote:
           | Yeah that's right
        
       | neonate wrote:
       | https://archive.is/THHp4
        
       | WalterBright wrote:
       | Anyone who has actually read _Monetary History_ is going to be
       | way, way more interesting than those that get their economics
       | from internet memes, slogans, and journalists.
        
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