[HN Gopher] Show HN: USA.css - units set in inches, 1776 bytes
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Show HN: USA.css - units set in inches, 1776 bytes
Author : bennettfeely
Score : 352 points
Date : 2020-07-04 18:13 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| purpleidea wrote:
| Relevant units: https://i.redd.it/582slv24n1741.jpg
|
| PSA, don't use old deprecated units still pushed by confused
| country.
| serf wrote:
| >PSA, don't use old deprecated units still pushed by confused
| country.
|
| I understand perfectly.
|
| Everyone, stop measuring weights in stone -- England has been
| declared confused!
| wizzwizz4 wrote:
| I mean... the only thing still measured in stone is babies,
| and even that's falling out of favour.
| Symbiote wrote:
| Babies weigh less than 1 stone (14 lb), they would
| traditionally be weighed in pounds and ounces.
|
| From searching "baby weight NHS", it looks like all the
| advice uses grams, so I assume that's current practise.
| wizzwizz4 wrote:
| Well, I must've completely misunderstood several
| conversations, then. Which would be characteristic.
| joshuaissac wrote:
| Most adults in the UK still measure their weight in stones
| and pounds, at least in my personal experience, and I have
| never come across anyone (except those raised in other
| countries) using either plain pounds or metric units for
| this purpose.
| learnstats2 wrote:
| Adults in the UK who take sport in any way seriously are
| more likely to quote their weight in kg, in my
| experience.
| jjcon wrote:
| Why would aliens work in base10?
| hedora wrote:
| Given all the probing they do, they're clearly after our best
| ideas.
|
| They'll be converting to imperial units and base 10 any day
| now.
|
| Converting the flying saucers to coal will take a bit longer.
| 8organicbits wrote:
| Looks like they had 3 fingers per hand, so base 6 seems a
| likely choice. 6 works great as its divisible by 2 and 3.
|
| I wonder what base we would use if we (somehow) had a prime
| number of fingers. 2, 6, 30, 60?
| jsilence wrote:
| Only on HN...
| cryptoz wrote:
| But what you call base 6 they might call base 10
|
| every base is is base 10...from a certain perspective
| masklinn wrote:
| > Looks like they had 3 fingers per hand, so base 6 seems a
| likely choice.
|
| Depends how they use their fingers and whether they use
| other body parts. There is evidence for human cultures
| having ranged from 4 to 10, 12, 16, and 20 (technically
| there are higher ones but they usually have sub-bases in
| that range).
|
| You can count to 12 on a single hand (24 on two hands) by
| pointing phalanges with the thumb for instance. Some native
| cultures had base 8 using the space between the fingers
| rather than the fingers themselves.
| jhardy54 wrote:
| Opinion: Highly composite numbers make good bases.
|
| 2, 6, 12, 60, etc
|
| Number of fingers doesn't matter, although you can shoehorn
| almost any base into them. For example, base 6 lets you
| count to 5 on one hand and use your other to coujt
| multiples of 6. This lets you count to 35 on two hands.
|
| More info here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_hi
| ghly_composite_nu...
| learnstats2 wrote:
| etc: 360 is a useful number of days for a calendar system
| def8cefe wrote:
| They may have 10 of something else...
| dang wrote:
| Please don't post nationalistic flamebait to HN.
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
| hosteur wrote:
| Why?
| ancarda wrote:
| Because it's a bit of fun, why not?
| webmobdev wrote:
| Because freedom units ( https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.
| php?term=freedom%20un...) are better than the metric system.
| Yetanfou wrote:
| Just make sure not to use this stylesheet when describing the
| route towards a distant planet so as to avoid ending up in a
| smoking crater instead of in the promised land.
| dvtrn wrote:
| _instead of the promised land_
|
| There's plenty of options out there in the wild black
| yonder of space. Just try to avoid Europa. Bit of a dispute
| over land rights with that one.
| wumms wrote:
| Use them together. Use them in peace.
| hedora wrote:
| Or, use a type safe language.
|
| Will web developers and rocket scientists ever learn?
| pbhjpbhj wrote:
| If you need to cut your website with primitive wood working
| tools ...
| dylan604 wrote:
| Whose to say they didn't build their own Arduino controlled
| CNC to do the wood working?
| andrewnicolalde wrote:
| Beautiful!
| zacksinclair wrote:
| I didn't even know you could set inches!
|
| Happy 4th!
| mediumdeviation wrote:
| Mostly useful for print stylesheets. On screens it seems to be
| defined as a constant 96px[1], which means it has no
| correspondence to physical inches.
|
| [1]: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/09/css-length-explained/
| CivBase wrote:
| Welcome back to HNC News. Tonight's top story: US law makers
| have introduced a new bill that would require all digital
| displays in the United States to feature a pixel density of
| 96 ppi. White house officials say the new bill represents
| "the first step on the march to bring freedom to the cyber
| world". More on this after the break.
| Shared404 wrote:
| Anchor: "Let's bring in a Congressman who agreed to comment
| on this extraordinary turn of events"
|
| Congressman: "I'm glad to support the expansion of freedom
| to all realms. Thankfully, it is now safe for us to do this
| that we can defend ourselves against the dangerous
| 'cypherpunks'. Thank you to everyone who has helped make
| this possible"
| pcunite wrote:
| I would scream from my office. Almost no one would
| understand my pain.
| tempodox wrote:
| But it would make screens great again! Especially retina
| screens.
| earthboundkid wrote:
| Screens around the world are sold based on diagonal inches.
| USA! USA!
| simias wrote:
| As a European whose only familiarity with inches is that
| "it's about 3cm" that actually annoys me.
|
| Back when screens were small it sort of worked, I knew what
| 13", 15", 17" and 20" screens looked like. Since most
| monitors fell in that range (yeah, I'm showing my age) that
| was good enough. Anything bigger than that was "damn huge",
| anything smaller was "damn small".
|
| But now monitors and especially TVs are immense. I see TVs
| with diagonals of 30", 55", 65"... That means absolutely
| nothing to me. I have to convert into centimeters for it to
| make sense. Fortunately some resellers do put the metric
| measurement next to the inches, but not everybody does it.
| penagwin wrote:
| If it makes you feel any better, I'm from the US and the
| unit is kinda meaningless. It's not like I can visualize
| 42" (without converting to feet first), and because it's
| the diagonal length it makes it basically impossible to
| visualize - I have to have seen it to know anyway.
| TheSpiceIsLife wrote:
| Hah! Yeah I hadn't even noticed that I do this too.
|
| I'm writing this on a 42" display, it was sold as a "TV"
| but it's just a dumb display as far as I'm concerned, so
| cheap 1080p monitor really.
|
| Everything bigger than 42" is, in my mind, just
| _unnecessarily big_ as you have to sit progressively
| further away from the display to comfortably watch motion
| pictures.
|
| So, from my perspective, huge displays are what you need
| for unnecessarily huge houses.
| missblit wrote:
| But the CSS spec suggests around 1/96th of an inch for the
| size of a CSS pixel. So if you squint hard enough it kind of
| works out.
| [deleted]
| mariofa wrote:
| https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/2/21311330/twitter-engineers...
| banksy__ wrote:
| _People who enjoy waving flags don 't deserve to have one
| -Banksy_
|
| https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/410220-people-who-enjoy-wav...
| KKKKkkkk1 wrote:
| Only a true American patriot who is deeply devoted to the
| nation's ideals would zealously protect a system of units that
| has been thrown in the dustbin of history by the rest of
| humanity.
| hedora wrote:
| Drinking from an obsolete CE pint glass here. Brexit!!! (?)
| corndoge wrote:
| _eagle screams_
| kevin_thibedeau wrote:
| Actually a red tailed hawk.
| hedora wrote:
| I think you meant turkey.
| sethammons wrote:
| For those not following, the Red Tailed Hawk's call is
| nearly universally used as a substitute for the sounds of
| Bald Eagles in most media. Bald Eagles don't sound similar.
| egd wrote:
| It's understandable. Bald Eagles sound genuinely
| hilarious for a bird that big.
| serf wrote:
| Was your point against the user, the concept, the measurement
| standard, or just triggered by any vague mentioning of the
| United States?
|
| It's difficult to sort through the negative sentiments to get
| to real point. Be more clear with your hostility and anger next
| time, would'ya?
| KKKKkkkk1 wrote:
| > Be more clear with your hostility and anger next time,
| would'ya?
|
| You're projecting.
| serf wrote:
| I'm projecting?
|
| But I haven't even thrown out 'true', 'devoted', or
| 'zealot' yet!
| snapetom wrote:
| I can't understand what's going on with some of these
| comments. Is it a genuine inability to see the levity of the
| project? Anti-americanism so strong to ignore the levity?
| It's humor, people.
| dc_ist wrote:
| https://designsystem.digital.gov
| bob1029 wrote:
| I think its really great that this exists. Bonus points for it
| being a public project on GitHub that any American can
| contribute to. It's also really hard to argue with the
| licensing terms.
| klyrs wrote:
| Weirdly, bennettfeely had 1776 karma when I clicked their
| profile. Conspiracy? Coincidence?
| Stratoscope wrote:
| And 1812 when I clicked just now.
|
| This must mean something!
| iliaznk wrote:
| 1812 - that's when Napoleon invaded Russia.
| Bjorkbat wrote:
| 1901 when I upvoted, the year when Teddy Roosevelt became
| President.
|
| I now have a strong urge to keep peace on the continent and
| rough-ride over a company under an antitrust investigation.
| Svip wrote:
| I think they were referring to the War of 1812. A war the
| US lost, and where the song "The Star Bangled Banner" comes
| from.
| unnouinceput wrote:
| 1821, proudly made by me. You know, when he died on St.
| Helen
| [deleted]
| klyrs wrote:
| Burn down the white house?
| [deleted]
| bjourne wrote:
| Cool! This is the kind of things that I love to see on HN.
| Carpetsmoker wrote:
| I can't tell if this is intended to be serious or a parody? "All
| units set in inches" makes it sound like a parody, but the "God
| bless America" footer makes it sound serious? Hmmm
| nautilus12 wrote:
| Good to see some patriotism in a time when American patriotism
| has become faux pas. We live in a great country that doesn't need
| to be completely deconstructed in order to get better
| nxc18 wrote:
| Patriotism is about fighting for the principles and values
| espoused in the constitution, and working towards improving an
| imperfect republic, not worshiping the flag.
|
| It's a fun project and I like the colors, but let's not pretend
| that the flag and the idea of 'patriotism' are anything other
| than distractions from the work that needs to be done.
| mazeltovvv wrote:
| Interestingly, everytime I hear this I feel like the
| constitution is treated like the bible, some holy book
| holding the truth. That is very dangerous imo
| nxc18 wrote:
| The constitution is the document that defines the existence
| of the United States and all of the rights, freedoms, and
| protections it provides and aspires to provide. It's not
| perfect, but it is a heck of a lot better than blind
| adherence to the flag and whoever waves it.
|
| Seeing as the constitution defines the United States, I
| think you get a lot closer to the truth when reflecting on
| it than you do when worshiping the flag or the military or
| whatever else it is that July 4th is supposed to be about.
|
| It is also important to remember that the constitution is a
| living document, meant to grow and evolve over time. If
| there are problems - and there are - it is up to us to
| change it.
| hedora wrote:
| > _whatever else it is that July 4th is supposed to be
| about_
|
| The Declaration of Independence; an aspirational document
| saying why the constitution was needed, and also a big
| F-you to Britain and tyranny around the world.
| macinjosh wrote:
| The Constitution is THE Supreme Law of the land. It
| literally is the 'bible' in how America is to be governed.
| The difference is that The Constitution has mechanisms
| within itself for change. This is the opposite of
| dangerous. It is the reason slavery was abolished, women
| have the vote, etc. It is a living document and it serves
| the people.
| Leherenn wrote:
| I would say one of the tenet of the Bible and other holy
| books is that there are immutable. It's the words of God,
| and he doesn't make mistakes. (In theory at least, I've
| heard the Bible's translations haven't always been kind
| to the original text.)
|
| That's a huge difference with the constitution, a
| fundamental one I'd say. And, most of the time, the
| people I see treating the constitution as gospel denies
| this very important mutability. The founding fathers were
| right and will always be right. The constitution must not
| be ammended, it is already perfect.
| themodelplumber wrote:
| What are some reasons to use inch units in screen-based CSS,
| aside from this kind of project?
|
| Edit: Removed all sentiment to my profile, leaving a beautifully
| rational shell of a comment.
| klyrs wrote:
| If you need to rive a 5cm length in twain and you don't like
| fractions. Or if you're making a website devoted to larval
| geometer moths.
| dragonwriter wrote:
| > If you need to rive a 5cm length in twain and you don't
| like fractions
|
| 125/127 is as much of a fraction as 1/2.
| [deleted]
| jacquesm wrote:
| Trying to imagine someone from France, Australia or Brazil to do
| something similar and failing.
| Retr0spectrum wrote:
| Uhhh why France?
| jacquesm wrote:
| Within the EU France is quite nationalist compared to others,
| and yet, I fail to imagine someone there producing something
| like this. I'm a bit allergic to flag waving.
| mhh__ wrote:
| _Systeme international_? We already use french units
| jacquesm wrote:
| No, 'international' does not mean 'French'. Yes, the French
| came up with it but since it now has international adoption
| it is the international standard with the United States as
| one of the last hold-outs. That's what you get when you have
| a country run by lawyers with very limited input from
| science.
| khanan wrote:
| ALL COUNTRIES MATTER!
|
| You, sir, are racist.
| wizzwizz4 wrote:
| Contrary to popular belief, there is actually a distinction
| between patriotism and nationalism. https://www.smbc-
| comics.com/comic/an-important-distinction
| lucidlogic wrote:
| How is this relevant?
| Minor49er wrote:
| It's something techie on America's birthday
| lucidlogic wrote:
| You know there's a bunch of other countries other right? This
| shouldn't be number 1 on hn.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Let us know when you spend some time honing your CSS skills
| to develop a timely relevant bit of theming, and we can all
| come back and leave some irrelevant opinions about it.
| lucidlogic wrote:
| I always thought hn was impartial and scientific, this is
| not.
| saagarjha wrote:
| Americans generally make up the majority of visits to
| most websites, including Hacker News, so you're generally
| going to see a slant towards it.
| jfkebwjsbx wrote:
| That would be very surprising considering how small it is
| compared to eg Europe alone.
|
| So citation needeed, I guess.
| saagarjha wrote:
| The United States is the world's third most populous
| country, and home to a number of technology businesses-
| one of the main draws of the site. I don't know if anyone
| has officially disclosed Hacker News's traffic data, but
| a lot of people have done analysis of what kind of
| traffic they get from being on the front page and it's
| invariably dominated by the United States:
| https://nicklafferty.com/blog/what-happens-when-you-re-
| on-th...
| blackhope wrote:
| This is a reminder that the USA still held black folks as slaves
| in 1776.
|
| This was woven into American society from the very start.
|
| Recall that the Native Americans were referred to in the
| Declaration as "merciless Indian Savages", and have been
| systematically attacked and abused, also since the very start.
|
| If you're celebrating Independence Day today, this is what you
| are actually celebrating.
|
| It should be a day of sad contrition and sorrow for the racism
| and other evils wrought upon many generations, not a celebration.
|
| Consider this if you're enjoying Independence Day today.
| brightball wrote:
| No, it's not. Before American independence the British crown
| held slaves.
|
| Prior to independence both SC and Virginia actually requested
| to pause or slow down the slave trade. They had to make this
| request to England and it was refused. The Declaration of
| Independence laid the groundwork for the eventual end of
| slavery that culminated in the Civil War.
|
| After US independence, Britain began to wash their hands of
| slavery eventually in 1834. It's also worth keeping in mind
| because during the War of 1812 the British attempted to arm
| both slaves and native Americans to help their war
| effort...while still practicing slavery themselves. You can
| imagine the effect such an action had on local relations as
| well.
|
| America's independence should be celebrated by everyone.
| Selective history should not.
| gnuisance wrote:
| Tunnel visioning on slavery is a pretty bad mindset. There are
| many facets to American society beyond slavery. It's almost
| impossible to imagine a person today who supports slavery.
| We've come a long way, and nobody is celebrating slavery.
| blackhope wrote:
| This is implicitly what you are celebrating if you choose to
| worship the Independence Day.
| eevilspock wrote:
| This is one of the more Trumpian things I've seen on HN.
| [deleted]
| chrismorgan wrote:
| Feels strange to have single decimal places in your inch figures.
| I'd have expected something like eighths, sixteenths and thirty-
| seconds of inches, even though the decimal representation of them
| is unwieldy (1/32'' becomes 0.03125in). That also helps you avoid
| fractional pixels, which is worth doing if convenient: 1/32'' is
| 3px, because 1in is defined as 96px.
|
| (As an Australian, the main place I've ever seen fractions of
| inches is old tools like spanners from before the adoption of the
| metric system, and that's all fractions with powers-of-two
| denominators. But maybe Americans use decimal fractions of
| inches? I suppose I have seen laptop screens described in that
| way, e.g. 13.1'', 15.4'' and 15.6'', though people typically
| truncate to the inch.)
| jedberg wrote:
| We usually use fractions, but sometimes we're forced to use
| decimals, usually when related to computers, since the usual
| fractions don't translate well to decimal.
| jholman wrote:
| Wait, what?
|
| You're saying that Americans preferentially use base-2
| fractions (nearly) everywhere except on computers; on
| computers you preferentially use base-10, even though said
| computers are going to store the values as base-2?
|
| That's the funniest thing I've heard all week.
| brudgers wrote:
| A feature of some English measures is unbiased division
| into three equal parts, e.g. Three teaspoons to the
| tablespoon, twelve inches to the foot, and twelve ounces to
| the pound (for one of several definitions of "ounce").
|
| Thirds don't fit neatly into binary nor do they fit neatly
| into decimal. This is what the comment refers to.
| skybrian wrote:
| Rulers, drill bits, and wrenches typically use fractions of an
| inch where the denominator is a power of two, but circuit board
| design often uses decimal fractions of an inch. The holes in a
| breadboard are commonly .1 inches apart.
| xellisx wrote:
| Then the whole mils thing...
| amyjess wrote:
| All small measurements in the US are done in power-of-two
| fractions of an inch. In fact, much of the initial opposition
| to the metric system here was led by the construction industry,
| who has found from experience that 1/2" 1/4" 1/8" 1/16" etc.
| measurements are too convenient to ever give up.
| Symbiote wrote:
| Since several of the lengths are in fifths of an inch, I
| thought it was a secret desire for the metric system.
| cjsawyer wrote:
| Engineering and machining specifications are usually in 0.001"
| and referred to as thousandth's or "thou's". Tools like
| wrenches or drill bits use fractions in the form x+1/2^n like 2
| 1/2 == 2.5". It goes down to 1/64, I think.
| userbinator wrote:
| They also speak of _tenths_ which are 0.0001 " units, i.e.
| "tenth of a thou". This jargon tends to confuse those who are
| new to it, but has been around for over a century.
| eevilspock wrote:
| _What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national
| independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and
| of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence,
| extended to us?... What, to the American slave, is your 4th of
| July? I answer; a day that reveals to him, more than all other
| days in the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is
| the constant victim._
|
| ~ Fredrick Douglass
| rrss wrote:
| 1852.
|
| "It was a great thing to achieve American Independence when we
| numbered three millions, but it was a greater thing to save
| this country from dismemberment and ruin when it numbered
| thirty millions."
|
| ~ Frederick Douglass, 1881.
|
| May the United States of America acknowledge what is bad,
| celebrate what is good, and go on to do greater things in the
| future.
| eevilspock wrote:
| wypipo. always cherry picking for comfort and absolution.
| [deleted]
| dang wrote:
| Please stop.
| pcunite wrote:
| Amen, he writes well:
|
| "As I have said, this southern threat lost many votes, but it
| gained more than would cover the lost. It frightened the
| timid, but stimulated the brave; and the result was--the
| triumphant election of Abraham Lincoln."
|
| [1] https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Life_and_Times_of_Frederic
| k_D...
| ixtli wrote:
| Marx wrote a letter of congratulations to Lincoln when he
| was elected as well, as a referendum on slavery. It would
| be silly to think that is uncritical support of the country
| tho.
| gerikson wrote:
| Metric inches or survey inches?
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_(unit)#International_foot)
| hedora wrote:
| I'm sure it inherits from the DPI your monitor reports.
|
| I wonder if any manufacturers let you specify which one you
| mean, or if it's like drives, where they always pick the
| smaller one to make a few extra pennies.
|
| The standards boards should step in to avoid confusion.
| OJFord wrote:
| Huh, I didn't know about this, that feet and inches used to
| differ across the world. If only they'd done pints, fluid
| ounces, and cups, etc. too!
|
| (Cups are particularly annoying: there's British, US, US Legal,
| and metric. The best recipe-following advice is that it's never
| going to matter. But it's annoying.)
| petepete wrote:
| I thought the whole point of cups was that the actual
| quantity didn't matter, so long as your ratios were
| consistent.
| irrational wrote:
| Measuring by volume was from a time period before we had
| reliable digital scales. These days all baking measuring
| should be done by weight since it is far more accurate. I
| won't even consider a recipe that goes by volume.
| Fortunately those are all written by amateurs.
| progman32 wrote:
| For where precision matters, 100% agree. For people like
| me who just want something halfway tasty but also
| quickly, the convenience of volumetric scoops is
| compelling.
| joe5150 wrote:
| I have a lot of junk in my kitchen drawers (admittedly a
| personal problem) and will opt for measuring directly
| from the bag into the bowl on a scale over digging around
| for that quarter cup every time.
| frank2 wrote:
| Replace "convenience" with "low cost of equipping the
| kitchen" then.
| iainmerrick wrote:
| A set of measuring cups and a digital kitchen scale
| probably cost about the same.
|
| Just checked this with a quick search on Amazon -- most
| results are in the $15-20 range, with some available for
| $10 or less.
|
| (I dare say there are probably very cheap measuring cups
| available, and for a scale you'll have to fork out
| occasionally for batteries, if you want to split hairs.)
| TheSpiceIsLife wrote:
| I have two suggest volume tablespoon measures.
|
| One is 15mL and the other is 20mL.
|
| That's a fair difference, but doesn't seem to matter a
| whole lot.
| OJFord wrote:
| That works if _everything_ is measured in them. (At which
| point obviously you can call it whatever you want, it 's
| nothing more than a ratio as you say.)
| Symbiote wrote:
| I lived in Britain for over 25 years, and never saw British
| cups used as a measure.
|
| A recipe given in ounces and pints might be using Imperial or
| US ounces and pints, but a recipe in cups is American.
|
| (It can matter when something is in another unit, like "4
| eggs".)
| OJFord wrote:
| They're extraordinarily rare in recipes for sure, basically
| only in old ones.
|
| But if you buy a 'cups' measure it ~never says which of the
| four it is, and it may well be there old Imperial size. (I
| have one. Was a popular one on Amazon, nothing obscure.)
| masklinn wrote:
| The units were already defined in relation to metric units
| (officially through the Medenhall Order in the US though the
| OWM had officiously been doing that for some time, officiously
| through the Weights and Measures Act of 1897 in the UK as while
| it defined the meter in terms of yard, as the precision of the
| meter increased the yard followed rather than led), but
| different countries used slightly different conversion factors.
|
| Hence _international_ inches, not metric inches.
| PedroBatista wrote:
| American inches.
| quda wrote:
| Awful kitsch!
| alexseman wrote:
| As an European this is really cool and unlike others self-
| loathing Americans here in the comments I understand the idea,
| humor and originality. Happy 4th USA, you are great today due to
| the greatness of your forefathers and the men that built this
| nation.
| TheSpiceIsLife wrote:
| No women were involved?
| AmazingTurtle wrote:
| You're just trying to hop on the train, ain't you?
| d33 wrote:
| I actually believe that their question was a right one to
| ask.
| TheSpiceIsLife wrote:
| No.
|
| How hard would it be to write "men and women" (or "women
| and men").
|
| What do you reckon? The fellas who "did all the work" in US
| history, you reckon they did all their own cooking and
| cleaning, you reckon their intimate partners, or close-
| others didn't contribute any to the people whom history
| attributes greatness?
|
| Probably not old boy, fair chance the wives, partners, and
| mistresses went a _long way to getting us where we are_.
|
| And that's if they weren't directly responsible but not
| attributed. How's that saying go, next to every great man
| is an even greater women. It's often true, except that the
| _woman_ part could be generalised to _partner or carer_.
|
| Some people act alone, outliers though.
|
| And to still, in this socio-political climate, not to
| bother to include women is, at least, _tone deaf_ , if not
| outright intentionally exclusive.
| quicklime wrote:
| Maybe try to assume best intent, and assume that this
| person doesn't speak English as their first language?
| nautilus12 wrote:
| Seriously?
| hedora wrote:
| Not one.
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy_Ross
| nautilus12 wrote:
| Thank you! I for one am not self loathing and proud of my
| country and thinks it doesn't need to be destroyed as a
| prerequisite to getting better
| dang wrote:
| Given your previous comments, this looks like trolling. Please
| stop posting like this to HN.
| elagost wrote:
| I'm no web dev, so feel free to improve upon it. Think I got the
| proportions right though.
|
| <div class="usa-stars"
| style="height:134;width:190;float:left;"></div>
|
| <div class="usa-stripes-horizontal"
| style="height:250;width:475;"></div>
| novok wrote:
| Definitely only tested on chrome. The .usa-conic item doesn't
| render at all in firefox :)
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