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MTG Hivemind: Artificial Intelligence Designing Magic the Gathering
Cards
Author : jsnell
Score : 24 points
Date : 2020-07-10 14:22 UTC (8 hours ago)
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| teeray wrote:
| I personally want Zudgle Latin, with a CMC of 3 and the ability
| to grant extra turns at 50% upon activating abilities. That's as
| good as Time Walk, if not better!
| YeGoblynQueenne wrote:
| Unfortunately, the ability text is all wrong:
| Whenever you activate one or more creatures block, flip a coin.
|
| There is no way to "activate one or more creatures block" in
| M:tG. So you 'll never get your extra turns :)
| YeGoblynQueenne wrote:
| It's interesting that this is an entire system, integrating
| disparate components for different parts of a card. This is the
| first time I see this kind of thing (for auto-homebrew M:tG
| cards). Unfortunately it doesn't work that well.
|
| Some of the cards that are presented as being "good" or even
| "gems" actually dont' make a lot of sense. In fact, every single
| card shown in that article has some kind of flaw- either the
| concept is all over the place, or the ability text is incorrect,
| or both.
|
| A few examples, starting with the three "gems" listed towards the
| end of the article as surprisingly good stuff you find once in a
| while: Sick Strength RR Creature -
| Nomad Haste. Whenever Sick Strength deals combat
| damage to a player, sacrifice all other creatures you
| control 3/2
|
| This is probably the one that the author of the article considers
| the "jewel in the crown" because it seems to make sense. But - a
| _creature_ called "Sick Strength"? Of type "Nomad"? A creature
| called "Strength" should be of a type denoting some kind of
| elemental property, e.g. "Avatar" or "Elemental Incarnation" etc.
| Or just "Elemental". Mastery of the Unseen
| 2UU Creature - Trilobite Blue instant and sorcery
| spell you control have flying The same is true for flying,
| deathtouch, haste, landwalk, protection, trample, and vigilance.
|
| Wait, protection - from what? Protection must be protection
| _from_ something, like "Protection from Black" or "Protection
| from Creatures" or even "Protection from converted mana cost 2"
| etc. Also, Flying (twice), deathtouch, haste, landwalk, trample
| and vigilance are all crature abilities, but while Mastery Of The
| Unseen itself is a creature, it grants those abilities to
| instants and sorceries. This card doesn't work. But, cool name.
| Dreamspoile Right WGG Creature - Dryad
| Sacrifice a forest: Dreamspoile Right gets -1/+1 and gainst
| vigilance until end of turn. 4/3
|
| Actually, this one's pretty decent. The ability even fits right
| into the colours of the card and the overall theme is fine. The
| name is off though. "Dreamspoile"? Not "Dreamspoiler"?
| Taste of Blood 1UU Creature - Elemental Flying.
| When Taste of Blood dies, exile it with two time counters on it
| and it gains suspend. 2/2
|
| The article sounds amazed that MTG Hivemind managed to come up
| with that second ability that uses Suspend not as an alternative
| casting cost, as it is usually used. Except that's basically the
| second ability of Epochrasite [1], that the article mentions as
| an example of a card with Suspend, word-for-word, but with two
| counters instead of three.
|
| Also "Taste of Blood" goes well on an Elemental, but really not
| on a _blue_ Elemental. Write Of Goblin Blade
| UR Creature - Goblin Prowess blue spells you cast
| cost 1R Less to cast. 1/3
|
| "Write of Goblin Blade"? Not "Write-off Goblin Blade?" Then, the
| ability text is all wrong- it's ungrammatical for natural English
| and it's ungrammatical for ability text even- keyword abilities
| like Prowess are written with a "--" after their name.
| Grim Battlemage 4U Creature - Yeti Flanking.
| When Grim Battlemage enters the battlefield, return target
| permanent to its owner's hand. U: Grim Battlemage
| loses defender until end of turn. 6/4
|
| I was sure there was a card in Magic that gave Defender to a
| creature (so that it couldn't attack you; bit crappy but eh). I
| even thought it had a name like "Turn to stone" or something. A
| search on Gatherer can't find it. So, unless I didn't search
| right, this is the ultimate junk card. Also, a "Yeti" that is a
| "Battlemage"? A "Battlemage" would be a "wizzard" probably. But
| OK, the article clarifies that types don't work very well.
| Over Cub 2U Creature - Skeleton Also can block
| only creatures with flying 2/2
|
| Also? OK, now we just have to find another creature that can
| block only creatures with flying. No, we don't - that's not
| correct ability text. Juffy Khrovalize 3G
| Creature - Ally Convoke. When Juffy Khrovalize enters
| the battlefield, you may search your library for a pirate
| card, reveal it, then shuffle your library and put that card on
| top of it. 5/3
|
| That name is a mess. I used to follow the development of
| Roborosewater (or the neural net that eventually became
| Roborosewater) when it was a thread in MTG Salvation and I
| remember clearly that many card names used to be a total
| slapstick mess that made no sense, like this one. Roborosewater,
| if I remember correctly, was able to generate more plausible
| names I think with a little longer training. But I'm not sure.
|
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| https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multive...
| ericsoderstrom wrote:
| Surprised this article didn't even mention roborosewater
| https://twitter.com/roborosewater?lang=en
| jachee wrote:
| Robo Rosewater has given me some of the best laughs.
|
| For some reason "computer gets thing slightly (or wildly)
| wrong" is the pinnacle of comedy to my brain.
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