[HN Gopher] Blind speakers gesture like their sighted counterpar...
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       Blind speakers gesture like their sighted counterparts: study
       (2016)
        
       Author : rhyzomatic
       Score  : 22 points
       Date   : 2020-07-15 00:49 UTC (22 hours ago)
        
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       | dang wrote:
       | Url changed from
       | https://allthingslinguistic.com/post/150001033323/blind-peop...,
       | which points to this.
       | 
       | A related article is https://www.thecut.com/2016/09/blind-people-
       | gesture-like-sig...
        
       | BurningFrog wrote:
       | I'd love a study comparing Chimpanzee gestures to humans.
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       | I'd expect similarities!
        
       | ardit33 wrote:
       | 1. We are born with the ability to gesture, and not something
       | that is learned directly. So it is a in-born trait. You get the
       | ability of speech, and gesturing tags along. (but most likely,
       | evolutionary speaking, gesturing came first).
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       | 2. Gesturing is linked to speech/language. Different languages
       | will have different gestures, not because they learned them, but
       | by the grammatical structure/intonation of the language.
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       | It will have been interesting to see multi-lingual people, and
       | see if the level of gesturing changes when they switch language.
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       | "The results showed that blind Turkish speakers gesture like
       | their sighted counterparts, and the same for English speakers.
       | All Turkish speakers gestured significantly differently from all
       | English speakers, regardless of sightedness. This means that
       | these particular gestural patterns are something that's deeply
       | linked to the grammatical properties of a language, and not
       | something that we learn from looking at other speakers."
        
       | jrockway wrote:
       | I went to high school in Japan for a year. Something that tripped
       | me up for a while is the gesture for "come here". It's equivalent
       | to the English gesture for "go away". (Try gesturing "go away"
       | like you're shooing a bug away and "come here" like you want to
       | tell someone a secret. Your hand flips 180 degrees, but it's
       | basically the same gesture.)
        
         | saalweachter wrote:
         | Does the atom of the movement change as well, or just the
         | orientation of the hand/arm?
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         | (I would make the "come here" gesture with my hand starting
         | closer to the person and moving towards me, and the "go away"
         | gesture in reverse, although it might be difficult to tell
         | because the motion would be repeated and confounded with moving
         | my hand/arm into place in either case.)
        
         | JoshTko wrote:
         | The gestures are similar but are different. The Japanese
         | version is typically performed with the arm in an upraised
         | angle and is a quick repeated wave. For a go away gesture the
         | arm is parallel to the ground
        
         | keanebean86 wrote:
         | My Indian coworkers shake their head side to side for yes and
         | no. When I first starting working with them I was always a
         | little mad that they never agreed with me until I realized what
         | was going on.
         | 
         | You can tell if it's yes or no depending on speed but thanks to
         | covid WFH for months I've forgotten which is which. Going back
         | to the office is going to be an adjustment.
        
           | advisedwang wrote:
           | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj56IPJOqWE
        
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