[HN Gopher] Blind speakers gesture like their sighted counterpar... ___________________________________________________________________ Blind speakers gesture like their sighted counterparts: study (2016) Author : rhyzomatic Score : 22 points Date : 2020-07-15 00:49 UTC (22 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.superlinguo.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.superlinguo.com) | dang wrote: | Url changed from | https://allthingslinguistic.com/post/150001033323/blind-peop..., | which points to this. | | A related article is https://www.thecut.com/2016/09/blind-people- | gesture-like-sig... | BurningFrog wrote: | I'd love a study comparing Chimpanzee gestures to humans. | | I'd expect similarities! | ardit33 wrote: | 1. We are born with the ability to gesture, and not something | that is learned directly. So it is a in-born trait. You get the | ability of speech, and gesturing tags along. (but most likely, | evolutionary speaking, gesturing came first). | | 2. Gesturing is linked to speech/language. Different languages | will have different gestures, not because they learned them, but | by the grammatical structure/intonation of the language. | | It will have been interesting to see multi-lingual people, and | see if the level of gesturing changes when they switch language. | | "The results showed that blind Turkish speakers gesture like | their sighted counterparts, and the same for English speakers. | All Turkish speakers gestured significantly differently from all | English speakers, regardless of sightedness. This means that | these particular gestural patterns are something that's deeply | linked to the grammatical properties of a language, and not | something that we learn from looking at other speakers." | jrockway wrote: | I went to high school in Japan for a year. Something that tripped | me up for a while is the gesture for "come here". It's equivalent | to the English gesture for "go away". (Try gesturing "go away" | like you're shooing a bug away and "come here" like you want to | tell someone a secret. Your hand flips 180 degrees, but it's | basically the same gesture.) | saalweachter wrote: | Does the atom of the movement change as well, or just the | orientation of the hand/arm? | | (I would make the "come here" gesture with my hand starting | closer to the person and moving towards me, and the "go away" | gesture in reverse, although it might be difficult to tell | because the motion would be repeated and confounded with moving | my hand/arm into place in either case.) | JoshTko wrote: | The gestures are similar but are different. The Japanese | version is typically performed with the arm in an upraised | angle and is a quick repeated wave. For a go away gesture the | arm is parallel to the ground | keanebean86 wrote: | My Indian coworkers shake their head side to side for yes and | no. When I first starting working with them I was always a | little mad that they never agreed with me until I realized what | was going on. | | You can tell if it's yes or no depending on speed but thanks to | covid WFH for months I've forgotten which is which. Going back | to the office is going to be an adjustment. | advisedwang wrote: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj56IPJOqWE ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2020-07-15 23:00 UTC)