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Pinephone - "Community Edition: PostmarketOS" Linux smartphone
Author : fsflover
Score : 187 points
Date : 2020-07-15 18:09 UTC (4 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (store.pine64.org)
| megous wrote:
| Sad not to be mentioned, despite the update talking about a lot
| of my independent work last month or so. (discovering the HW
| issues, suggesting/verifying the fix, writing the USB-C/HDMI
| driver enabling the whole convergence thing) But I'm very glad
| about the progress PinePhone is making. The momentum is
| incredible.
|
| If anyone is interested in original info from the author of the
| USB-C/HDMI work, I also put useful information/observations from
| my work on the kernel and PinePhone here:
|
| https://xnux.eu/devices/pine64-pinephone.html
|
| The current thing on my radar is writing a power manager for the
| modem. :) That will improve the standby from 24h with the modem
| active to ~90h.
|
| EDIT: All is well, btw. There's just a lot of pressure on
| pine64's small team, and it's hard to keep up with everything.
| voltagex_ wrote:
| "All the current PP variants (1.0-1.2) have a major issue, that
| prevents CC pins from working correctly. It's therefore not
| possible to perform any kind of negotiation and communication
| over the CC pins. It's not fixable in SW, other than via a
| manual selection of power and data roles by the user. There's a
| HW mod that you can do to fix CC pins from being hogged by the
| VCONN switches by removing the switches."
|
| It's a pity this requires tricky surface mount rework.
| megous wrote:
| Not necesarily. I've read someone just pulled those two
| switches off the board with a screwdriver stuck in between
| them and twisting.
|
| Thankfully, just removing the switches will fix CC pins and
| PP will be able to work with many USB-C peripherals after
| that.
|
| I have two pinephones that work nicely with two different
| USB-C docks and an USB-C 4x USB-A adapter just with this fix.
|
| There are probably not that many interesting
| peripherals/cables that would benefit from supplying power
| over CC pins. (which just removing the switches makes
| impossible) A lot of peripherals will make do with VBUS
| power.
| tmzt wrote:
| Thank you for your great work.
|
| Is it possible to manually configure the port to work with
| HDMI or as a host (in sysfs), or is the hardware change
| required (on preorder/braveheart phone)?
|
| Is there a single place with the most up-to-date kernel
| sources with usb hardware drivers, audio support for modem,
| etc.?
| glenstein wrote:
| Thank you for your work! I am so glad that you are doing what
| you are doing, because I personally want something the
| Pinephone project to succeed and its success makes me think
| that there are forces for good in the world.
| AsyncAwait wrote:
| Awesome work! Thanks so much, should've definitely been
| mentioned in the post.
| anotheryou wrote:
| Has logo on back and comes with a usb-c hub:
|
| https://www.pine64.org/2020/07/15/july-updatepmos-ce-pre-ord...
|
| imgur backup of the essential banner:
| https://i.imgur.com/XteJmBp.jpg
|
| > Introducing PinePhone Convergence Package with postmarketOS CE
| featuring 3GB RAM/ 32GB eMMC and a USB-C dock for $199; available
| alongside regular PinePhone postmarketOS CE for $149
| MartijnBraam wrote:
| Here's also a demo of the dock in action I recorded a while
| back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBeza4UNOm8
| josteink wrote:
| So I'm done waiting, and just had to order one. Even went for the
| convergence edition.
|
| Not expecting a daily driver, but probably the most fun tech
| gadget of 2020.
| rapnie wrote:
| Aral Balkan recently demonstrated running a web server from his
| new Pinephone using the site.js framework he developed and live-
| chatting with his viewers with it. Really cool.
|
| He said the phone is definitely still not ready for everyday use,
| but great for devs obviously.
|
| https://ar.al/2020/07/12/live-stream-a-web-site-on-your-phon...
| ipnon wrote:
| The possibilities with an open phone are awesome.
| boring_twenties wrote:
| I don't think you need an open for this, you could just
| install nginx under Termux, or even not under it.
| AsyncAwait wrote:
| We need open computing in as many segments as possible with
| major corporations embrancing the AppStore model and
| deciding increasingly directly what you can't and cannot do
| with your own devices, often in the name of "security".
|
| The ability to run the exact same OS on my phone as I do on
| my laptop with a nice, mobile friendly UI while retaining
| all the power is a remarkable achievement for the free
| software community.
| abawany wrote:
| Plus with their announced usb-c hub, it seems that one
| could connect to a screen+keyboard+mouse and work on
| things for a bit if one forgot the laptop.
| Shared404 wrote:
| That's what I look forward to most.
| sschueller wrote:
| You do as Google is breaking termux in the next Android.
| mathfailure wrote:
| Your link doesn't work.
| A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote:
| I purchased mine a while ago, but the excitement with Covid
| resulted in me still waiting ( although it is on the way now ). I
| am excited. I am not sure it will be a daily driver, but we need
| something outside current practical duopoly.
| eointierney wrote:
| This is an awesome piece of kit. I have one.
|
| I used to have an N900. This is better.
|
| Our community of doers who celebrate freedom by doing are
| amazing. This is almost, but not quite, the last piece of our
| autonomous puzzle.
|
| Very soon now we'll have fully distributed jurisdictional
| priority, and we'll use this kind of tech to measure we're doing
| it right. We will demonstrate right of appeal to each other.
|
| I love hacker news
| LibertyBeta wrote:
| Hopefully this will lead to an improved PineTab as well!
| aquaticsunset wrote:
| Ah, the HN hug. Poor site.
|
| I have a lot of optimism for this phone. I don't know whether to
| buy one of these, or wait for the "GA" version to come out. I'm
| most interested in running Plasma Mobile but being able to
| "distro hop" on a cell phone is pretty awesome.
| megous wrote:
| 1.2a feels to me like GA. There's not much HW wise that I'd
| consider an issue anymore.
|
| There are things that could be better, like having a different
| WiFi chip, that would have a better [actual mainline] driver
| support with working power management. Not sure how likely that
| is. Probably not much.
| kgwxd wrote:
| Is there any kind of navigation app for this?
| RealStickman_ wrote:
| I ordered the UBports version a few months back and it recently
| arrived. At the moment I'm running Mobian, basically Debian for
| the PinePhone. There are a lot of rough edges still, but it just
| feels great to have the ability to tinker with your phone in the
| same way you tinker with your linux box.
| anonymousiam wrote:
| The preinstalled postmarketOS software build which ships with
| this edition of the PinePhone is an Alpha software build. This
| effectively mean that while core functionality of the PinePhone -
| such as telephone calls, SMS messages, LTE, GPS, GPU
| acceleration, etc. - is operational, it is also an ongoing
| effort, and thus the device cannot be considered as a consumer-
| ready product.
| pengaru wrote:
| _Still_ waiting for my UBports CE pinephone to arrive, which they
| sent a shipping update for _weeks_ after I tried canceling my
| order which they completely ignored without any acknowledgement.
|
| Right now I am incredibly disappointed with pine64 in terms of
| their customer relations.
| AsyncAwait wrote:
| It's worth noting that it's a fairly small team doing an
| increadable amount of work. They've mentioned being overwhelmed
| with queries, even it this update. It's not Apple or Samsung.
| I'd be patient, maybe ping them once more just in case they
| missed it, try the forums instead of email as well.
| fsflover wrote:
| If you are wondering, what you can already do with this phone:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH3RbrwhNd8 (but this is Ubuntu
| Touch)
| feteru wrote:
| Woah, USB C dock included with the Convergence version looks
| really cool. Definitely would close the convergence gap further
| than just using all the same cable for my devices to actually
| being able to use docks and similar distros/software!
| boring_twenties wrote:
| Dang it, now I want that.
|
| Anyone want to buy my Braveheart?
| yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
| Sounds like you can patch the braveheart if you have a
| soldering iron and bravery:
|
| > While we're discussing this topic, let me tackle the
| elephant in the room and acknowledge that a design flaw in
| PCBA rev. 1.1 and 1.2 prevents this functionality (please see
| relevant documentation related to CC pin) on Braveheart and
| UBports CE phones. Thankfully the fix to the problem - the
| removal of two small components from the PCBA - is relatively
| simple to perform for someone with good soldering skills. At
| the same time I recognize that many community members, myself
| included, are not capable of completing this operation. To
| this end, we will set up a chain of local (in your geographic
| area) workshops, makerspaces or individual technicians
| capable of performing this fix, so you can send your 1.1 /
| 1.2 phone to them to complete the repair.
|
| (https://www.pine64.org/2020/07/15/july-updatepmos-ce-pre-
| ord...)
| TekMol wrote:
| Is there a way to run Debian on the PinePhone?
|
| I don't mean a debian based OS that is maintained by someone
| else, but something that is maintained by and can be downloaded
| from Debian?
|
| If it boots and gives me a shell, I would be happy. I don't need
| a GUI or phone specific software. If I can have a real linux
| computer in my pocket, that would be great.
| slezyr wrote:
| There are a lot of choices
|
| https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PinePhone_Software_Release...
| ThaDood wrote:
| UBPorts, technically it is Ubuntu and not Debian, but Ubuntu is
| based on Debian. https://ubports.com/
| yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
| Ubuntu is derived from Debian and UBPorts is derived from
| Ubuntu, but by the time you get there it doesn't look the
| same; ex. UBPorts has a read-only root filesystem
| (https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blogs-
| news-1/post/terminal-...)
| digi59404 wrote:
| There Mobian which IMO is as close to a supported Debian OS on
| Pinephonr as you can get. https://mobian-project.org/
| TekMol wrote:
| Regarding to my question, that means "No", right?
|
| As far as I can see, Mobian is maintained by Matrix.org whom
| I never heard of before.
|
| The reason I would like to use Debian is that it is
| maintained by the Debian foundation who have an excellent
| history of trustworthiness and reliability.
|
| Why can't one install Debian on the PinePhone?
| connorgutman wrote:
| Both the Pinephone and the Pinebook Pro recently received
| mainline Linux kernel support with version 5.7. Debian
| recently added support for the Pinebook Pro as well as the
| RockPro64. They have daily builds available here for most
| of Pine 64's devices: https://d-i.debian.org/daily-
| images/arm64/daily/netboot/SD-c.... There's no Pinephone
| build yet but IMO it's only a matter of time. That being
| said, "Mobian" is just a DEBOS recipe with some custom
| software included that a user by the name of A-Wei has been
| maintaining. You could clone their repo and build it
| yourself if you'd like, it's super polished! Here's the
| Mobian repo: https://gitlab.com/mobian1/mobian-recipes
| sfdsfdsf wrote:
| >As far as I can see, Mobian is maintained by Matrix.org
| whom I never heard of before.
|
| I am not sure who is maintaining Mobian, but it is surely
| not Matrix. Matrix.org is the website of a chat protocol,
| where they have a support channel. Here you can see some
| members https://liberapay.com/mobian
| dsr_ wrote:
| Because nobody has done that yet. Go over to debian-devel,
| talk to the Debian ARM people and the Debian installer
| people, and you can help bring Debian to the PinePhone.
| slezyr wrote:
| Actually, mobian does exactly this... That guy isn't THAT
| interested to spend 5 mins of his time to solve HIS
| problem.
|
| https://gitlab.com/mobian1/mobian-
| recipes/-/blob/master/root...
| AsyncAwait wrote:
| So, ehm, Mobian is just an ARM build of Debian. It
| literally pulls from the same upstream package archives
| etc. Also Matrix.org is a well-regarded free software
| community making an open, privacy first, federated chat
| software. It's the sort of people you'd want if you care
| about free software, privacy, openness etc. I am honestly a
| bit shocked you haven't heard of Matrix.org - they're
| fairly well know in the community at this point.
| megous wrote:
| Debian aarch64 port rootfs + custom kernel. That's how I run
| Arch Linux ARM on PinePhone.
|
| There's really nothing else that's needed other than the kernel
| to make any aarch64 distro run on the phone.
| MartijnBraam wrote:
| not directly from the debian project no, you can put a generic
| ARM64 debian rootfs on it, but you'll need the kernel and
| u-boot specifically built for it. There is pinephone support in
| mainline linux but it'll probably 5.8 or 5.9 before you can
| really use it on the phone.
| yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
| Comment upthread claims it was merged in 5.7:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23850034
| MartijnBraam wrote:
| yes the DTB is in 5.7, but if you compare the dtb file
| merged there and the one in the kernel fork that's being
| worked on you'll notice that a lot of stuff is not in
| mainline yet, so those components are left out. For example
| in 5.7 it doesn't support display yet.
|
| A patch has already been accepted in linux-next for the
| driver for the display and will be in 5.8, ther are a bunch
| more components that are missing with a pure mainline
| kernel.
| ForHackernews wrote:
| PostmarketOS is an incredible project worth supporting:
| http://postmarketos.org/
|
| They're trying to do for smartphones what PC-compatibles did for
| home computers: deliver a standardized general-purpose operating
| system across different hardware.
| stx wrote:
| This is what I had hoped Android would be when I first heard
| about it before it was fully available. It looks like the OS
| still needs polish but not bad. And only $200 with a dock.
|
| Here is a video walkthrough I found on youtube. I am not sure how
| up to date it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjaJJ6o-mbM
| osamagirl69 wrote:
| I have the ubports version of the pine64 and it is still pretty
| rough around the edges but the phone itself is very solid. It was
| recently announced that there was an issue with the usb-c port
| preventing it from being able to correctly negotiate with
| devices, but they have already worked out a fix [1] which I have
| carried out on my device and can confirm that usb is now working.
| Furthermore they are working with makerspaces to help people find
| someone who can do the soldering if they are not able.
|
| Coincidentally, they also announced a soldering iron called the
| 'Pinecil'[2] which is based on the venerable TS100 but with a
| risc-v microprocessor running freertos for $25.
|
| [1]
| https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php?title=PinePhone_v1.1_-_Bra...
|
| [2] https://www.pine64.org/2020/07/15/july-updatepmos-ce-pre-
| ord...
| AsyncAwait wrote:
| Worth noting that there are other distros which seem to be
| further ahead as of now than UBPorts is, for example Mobian[1].
| They recently got even the camera up and running.
|
| 1 - https://mobian-project.org
| zozbot234 wrote:
| Mobian is especially interesting because its work might go
| upstream into Debian. Being able to run pure Debian on a
| phone would make it even more of a Universal Operating
| System.
| qchris wrote:
| I own the Pinephone UBports CE, which I've run UBports,
| postmarketOS, and currently have Mobian installed.
|
| Mobian is definitely my favorite of the three so far. Set-up
| was really easy, I'm perfectly okay with the Phosh UI, and
| being able to do package management with `apt` vs. `apk` is
| huge, since I'm much more familiar with Debian's setup than
| Alpine's. It didn't seem like something that would matter a
| bunch, but it's ended up being a big quality-of-experience
| improvement for me.
|
| Documentation seemed better for Mobian too, and getting
| everything set-up was very easy (user set-up vs. the pmOS
| "demo" user). Plus, at least the image of pmOS I had (about
| two weeks ago fresh .img file, plus regular updates), Firefox
| support wasn't great because of auto-scaling vs. the Firefox
| ESR on Mobian that just works. Like, open it up, log into my
| Firefox account, then start playing a Youtube video with zero
| tinkering just-works. I ended up calling a family member
| across the country and talking with them for about 10 minutes
| soon afterwards as well, with no issues. Plus, I was able to
| SSH into it from my laptop and build/run a Rust binary. On a
| phone. That was quite a fun moment. Still definitely a beta,
| but for me it's the closest to a daily driver of the three.
|
| I don't see myself switching back to pmOS or UBports unless
| they suddenly make a huge leap.
| erinnh wrote:
| It wasnt really 100% clear in the article. Does the USB issue
| apply to current/new orders from them as well?
| JeremyNT wrote:
| > It wasnt really 100% clear in the article. Does the USB
| issue apply to current/new orders from them as well?
|
| The new PMOS version gets a new hardware revision, 1.2a,
| which is when the issue was resolved. The earlier versions
| (including the Ubports/1.2 and Braveheart/1.1 revisions) both
| have the issue.
|
| I own the 1.2 (ubports edition) version of the phone, and I
| really want the external display capability, but I've never
| been any good at soldering something so small! It sounds like
| there will be some volunteers helping to fix the issue on the
| earlier versions, if you send them the device, which I very
| well may do.
| bhhaskin wrote:
| Looking at those updates the pinecube looks pretty sweet! I was
| thinking about trying to create a security camera using pi
| zeros, but he cube looks way more cost effective and has pretty
| much everything I could want!
| Mediterraneo10 wrote:
| The UBports version of the Pinephone isn't just rough around
| the edges - that suggests that it will be a smoother experience
| one day, but it still needs work. Rather, my impression is that
| UBports is a dead end technologically. It is based inextricably
| on some 2014-era Ubuntu-specific software that even Ubuntu
| moved away from. The experience of SSHing into it, tweaking
| system configuration, etc. doesn't feel like the "ordinary
| desktop Linux on your phone" that everyone was hoping for.
|
| As a former Nokia N900 owner, I was solidly disappointed by
| UBports. I suspect that, for example, the PureOS port to the
| Pinephone may eventually give users like myself what they are
| looking for. Luckily, even if your Pinephone is branded for a
| specific operating system, you can replace that OS with
| whatever other OS of your choosing.
| AsyncAwait wrote:
| The beauty of the PinePhone is that there's literally nothing
| tying it to UBPorts, I've flashed Mobian[1] on mine an am
| supper happy with it. The Arch builds are also coming
| together nicely. [2]
|
| 1 - https://mobian-project.org
|
| 2 - https://github.com/dreemurrs-
| embedded/Pine64-Arch/releases
| TekMol wrote:
| How long does your battery last? I have heard it drains very
| quickly?
| osamagirl69 wrote:
| Lasts about a day, but there are further software fixes on
| the way to enable lower power states. Really excited to get
| usb host working, pecking away at the touchscreen (with no
| haptic feedback yet!) was getting very old very quick.
| [deleted]
| AsyncAwait wrote:
| This was a thing before the crust firmware was implemented.
| With crust it should last up to 24hrs and when you disable
| the modem up to 100hrs.
| OneLeggedCat wrote:
| Wow. That modem is a hog. Do you know if there is still
| room for it to be optimized, or is this about as good as it
| will get?
| AsyncAwait wrote:
| Not sure, but given that this work is extremely recent my
| bet would be that there's some room for optimiztion
| still, but probably not anywhere close to the 100hrs
| mark.
|
| My guess would be the modem is the most power hungry
| component of practically any smartphone and 24hrs is
| already in line with mainstream smartphones so any
| additional % squeezed would be amazing indeed.
|
| EDIT: Maybe 90hrs?
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23852043
| MartijnBraam wrote:
| I'm not entirely sure if modem sleep was used in that 24
| hours calculation.
| megous wrote:
| I'm pretty sure it was not.
|
| Modem in sleep, according to datasheet, consumes ~10mW.
|
| Current state of the art power consumption of the whole
| phone without the modem on at all is 110mW. (this is the
| value on which the 100h figure is based on)
|
| So when the modem will be actually in sleep, it will not
| add much to the equation.
| AsyncAwait wrote:
| Well actually looks like I was way too conservative with
| my original comment, apparently lots could be done:
|
| "The current thing on my radar is writing a power manager
| for the modem. :) That will improve the standby from 24h
| with the modem active to ~90h." [1]
|
| 1 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23852043
| hellcow wrote:
| Amazing. That's 4x what I get on a Pixel 3. :)
| hpfr wrote:
| Standby, not screen-on time
| zerfall wrote:
| As someone that has been waiting for their RMA process with a
| Pinebook Pro for more than a month now I am incredibly
| disappointed with their customer service.
|
| Getting any kind of response from then can take two to three days
| and all you get is "thank you for your understanding and
| patience" while they "wait for the manufacturer to provide
| replacement parts".
| plus wrote:
| While that's unfortunate, I think it would be best if you re-
| calibrated your expectations. The Pinebook Pro is not a
| consumer product; it is an enthusiast product being sold with
| minimal profit margins. The PBP is produced in China and
| shipped out from Hong Kong in batches rather infrequently
| (maybe about once per month). To the best of my knowledge, they
| don't really have a "customer service" team. Taken together,
| these things obviously do not lead to an optimal consumer
| experience, but this is to be expected for such inexpensive
| low-volume niche products.
| Shared404 wrote:
| > When fulfilling the purchase, please bear in mind that we are
| offering the Pinebook Pro at this price as a community service
| to PINE64, Linux and BSD communities. We make no profit from
| selling these units. If you think that a minor dissatisfaction,
| such as a dead pixel, will prompt you to file a PayPal dispute
| then please do not purchase the Pinebook Pro. Thank you.
|
| From their store page.
| ipnon wrote:
| Maybe I'm showing my age, but this is the first release of a
| phone I have been eagerly awaiting.
| redisman wrote:
| There was a Nokia Linux phone I remember being really excited
| for and went to demo it in a store. This was maybe 10 years
| ago.
| pessimizer wrote:
| It was wonderful. It's too bad we had to wait this long for a
| replacement.
| Funes- wrote:
| That would be the Nokia N900, which used Maemo, a Debian-
| based distro. It runs PostmarketOS, as well [0].
|
| [0]: https://invidio.us/watch?v=eux9IcB2lfg.
| pengaru wrote:
| Or the Nokia N9
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N9
| Funes- wrote:
| His eagerness and excitement at the time could have been
| more closely related to Nokia N900's novelty (2009),
| since the N9 was released two years later (2011), and the
| concept wouldn't be as surprising. That's why I went with
| the N900 with my guess. In any case, considering both
| phones flew under almost everyone's radar, you might be
| right: it could be either one.
| medium_burrito wrote:
| Count me in. I refuse to buy into the Apple ecosystem anymore
| after "courage" and the last few years of laptops, and I
| develop in linux anyway, so I'm extremely interested. Perhaps I
| just need to make the plunge?
| ipnon wrote:
| My current daily driver is getting old but it still works.
| I'm going to buy the pinephone and try to use it as a
| replacement for my daily driver. If it's not convenient
| enough I will switch back and still have an interesting
| device to hack on.
| Shared404 wrote:
| I'm young, and this is the first release of a phone I've been
| eagerly awaiting.
| svnpenn wrote:
| Site is dead slow... PS C:\> Measure-Command
| {curl.exe -I https://store.pine64.org/product-category/pinephone}
| TotalSeconds : 23.2096005
| hundchenkatze wrote:
| Yeah, their site has always been abysmal to use.
|
| edit: to be fair as others pointed out, it's likely that I've
| mainly ended up on their store after/during the hug of death
| from hn/reddit.
| Shared404 wrote:
| I've only ever seen it slow directly following an HN/Reddit
| post.
|
| It may never have been _instant_ loading, but it's always
| felt fairly responsive to me.
| aquaticsunset wrote:
| It's not usually _this_ slow though
| fireTwoOneNine wrote:
| (I guess now's a good time to actually register for HN -- we
| end up on here often enough...)
|
| Hi, Pine64 sysadmin here... yea, our store doesn't like the big
| surges of traffic we get around product launches. As I speak,
| we've been getting about 600 concurrent connections for the
| last 30 minutes, and at least 450 for the last few hours.
|
| We've done some optimization behind the scenes in anticipation,
| but it's clearly not enough. We're going to be doing some heavy
| upgrades right after these preorders close.
| TheSpiciestDev wrote:
| It looks like a Wordpress site, but caching or a CDN should
| resolve a lot of what feels slow, right?
| fireTwoOneNine wrote:
| P64 Sysadmin here: We are using heavy caching, on WP and also
| browser-side. It's still not enough.
|
| We previously used Cloudflare, which obviously fixes most of
| these problems, but people in these types of circles tend to
| get pissy about CF.
| lallysingh wrote:
| I wonder if you can serve directly on a different domain
| and put CF on the primary?
| [deleted]
| spurgu wrote:
| PHP 5.4..?
|
| I'd recommend setting up WP Super Cache (which you're using
| now) to serve static HTML files (not sure what caching
| method you are using). Then you need to configure Apache
| (or switch to nginx) to actually look for those files,
| otherwise the plugin won't do much (it generates PHP files
| by default which are taxing on the server). Another option
| would be to switch to the Cache Enabler plugin (along with
| Apache or nginx configuration) - static HTML page caching
| as simple as it gets. Oh and upgrade PHP.
|
| Edit: For Cache Enabler, check suggested advanced configs
| at https://www.keycdn.com/support/wordpress-cache-enabler-
| plugi...
|
| Edit2: CF would just by default cache your CSS/JS, wouldn't
| really solve the issues you're experiencing (most likely
| heavy PHP/MySQL load due to poorly configured caching).
| That said I haven't looked into the site that much, might
| be that you have a lot of portions of the site that can't
| be properly cached but then again most users shouldn't need
| to be logged in so doubt it.
| MartijnBraam wrote:
| since it's a webshop it will mostly be cache misses
| anyway for the static generated pages, not sure that will
| help a lot.
| spurgu wrote:
| Yeah that was my only reservation, but the per-user
| customisation shouldn't be an issue unless you're logged
| in or have stuff added to the cart, so a general spike in
| traffic shouldn't (theoretically) affect it.
| fireTwoOneNine wrote:
| Trust me, PHP 5.x is going to be one of the first things
| to go in a few days. Moving to PHP 7 should fix many of
| our issues in one go -- I hope. Along with a move to
| nginx (which the rest of our web infrastructure already
| uses). There's a long story as to why all this hasn't be
| done previously.
|
| I'll look into changing the caching once we're over the
| worst of this. Forgive me if I don't want to make
| significant changes during a massive traffic spike. ;)
| spurgu wrote:
| Haha, of course. :) Hope it turns out well!
| Nux wrote:
| You sure it's not just powershell?
| svnpenn wrote:
| After some troubleshooting, it looks like it was actually
| your computer that was slowing everything down. If you could
| just stay off the internet forever I think it will be fine.
| aitchnyu wrote:
| Would this be killed by security requirements? My company allows
| email on my Android only if I install MS Intune which made me
| choose a longer passcode and doesnt allow unlocked screen while
| charging. Banking apps prevent rooted phones. Will major apps
| boycott this platform?
| Shared404 wrote:
| It's not android. I wouldn't expect major apps on this at all,
| at least not any time soon.
| ralls_ebfe wrote:
| GloDroid may work:
| https://github.com/GloDroid/glodroid_manifest
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