[HN Gopher] Who's behind Wednesday's epic Twitter hack?
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       Who's behind Wednesday's epic Twitter hack?
        
       Author : MindGods
       Score  : 68 points
       Date   : 2020-07-16 21:58 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (krebsonsecurity.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (krebsonsecurity.com)
        
       | TechBro8615 wrote:
       | This is the most important point:
       | 
       | > Also, it seems clear that this Twitter hack could have let the
       | attackers view the direct messages of anyone on Twitter,
       | information that is difficult to put a price on but which
       | nevertheless would be of great interest to a variety of parties,
       | from nation states to corporate spies and blackmailers.
       | 
       | My understanding is the hackers used the admin panel to change
       | the email addresses of the accounts, which means they could reset
       | passwords and perform full account takeover. That means they
       | could login as the user, and so it means they could read the
       | user's direct messages.
        
       | PiggySpeed wrote:
       | Imagine combining this with a deepfake video.
        
       | sillysaurusx wrote:
       | _While it may sound ridiculous that anyone would be fooled into
       | sending bitcoin in response to these tweets, an analysis of the
       | BTC wallet promoted by many of the hacked Twitter profiles shows
       | that on July 15 the account processed 383 transactions and
       | received almost 13 bitcoin on July 15 -- or approximately USD
       | $117,000._
       | 
       | This could be mostly the attackers' own money. It's impossible to
       | tell, but I haven't seen anyone explicitly mention this.
        
         | nullc wrote:
         | It might be better to assume that it's entirely the attacker's
         | money until at least one actual victim steps forward.
        
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         | chmod775 wrote:
         | You'd have to be a special kind of stupid to "un-wash" your own
         | bitcoins this way.
        
           | sillysaurusx wrote:
           | Possibly. The only reason this would be stupid is because
           | Bitcoin has rapidly been centralizing. I suspect many
           | exchanges might start blacklisting any wallet that has any
           | transactions from this wallet.
           | 
           | On the other hand, they can't really do that. At that point
           | the attackers would be able to poison any wallet just by
           | sending a small amount of BTC to it. Therefore it seems like
           | the only penalty is that they'd have to re-wash their coins.
        
         | paulpauper wrote:
         | no, ppl really are that gullible.
        
       | teknopurge wrote:
       | It's not a hack when an employee holds the door open and gives
       | use of an admin management tool to a third party.
       | 
       | Likewise, it's not a bitcoin scam when bitcoin is the method of
       | transfer, just like it's not a US-dollar scam every other time
       | dollars are used in theft.
        
         | barbecue_sauce wrote:
         | Is bribery not considered a viable form of social engineering?
        
           | ceo_tim_crook wrote:
           | I wouldn't even call that social engineering, just fraud
        
           | c00ls0sa wrote:
           | Where was that mentioned? This wasn't a hack. A "life hack"
           | maybe.
        
           | bpfrh wrote:
           | I would argue that it is not.
           | 
           | Social engineering is when your target is unaware that what
           | he does is wrong or will do damage.
        
         | kingnight wrote:
         | Bitcoin is sort of notable vs US-dollar in that it's
         | significantly more of a novelty, and unlike the dollar, doesn't
         | have same fraud recovery path.
        
           | gruez wrote:
           | >unlike the dollar, doesn't have same fraud recovery path.
           | 
           | You mean _electronic_ us dollars? I doubt you 'd be able to
           | recover physical us dollars if they were scammed.
        
             | kingnight wrote:
             | Yep, good point. But if someone stole this amount in cash
             | through a hack or social engineering, I think that is even
             | more notable :)
        
         | Latty wrote:
         | I think there is an argument for it being a hack in the sense
         | that a secure system should try and limit internal abuse too.
        
       | paulpauper wrote:
       | The among taken in this scam is chump change compared to the
       | YouTube scammers. YouTube is a vastly bigger website than twitter
       | and way slower to respond to accounts begin stolen by scammers. I
       | remember seeing an Ripple giveaway scam that in a single day made
       | 100k with just a single account ,. And fake bill gates one made
       | 40k. the list goes on and on. My guess is the total taken is in
       | the $3-5 million range from youtube alone.
        
         | chrisseaton wrote:
         | What are these YouTube scams you're referring to? I'm not aware
         | of them.
        
         | crtasm wrote:
         | And you don't even need to steal an account. When the
         | Playstation 5 launch event was happening I searched for it on
         | Youtube, clicked the top result and it turned out to be a
         | scammer restreaming the real live event with graphics added
         | saying Sony would double your BTC - just send to this address
         | ___.
        
       | strikelaserclaw wrote:
       | man who falls for this stuff. i've been seeing "send me money to
       | this account to get double that" scam for like 20 years, its hard
       | to believe there are people who still don't know better.
        
         | chrisseaton wrote:
         | I too don't understand who's technical enough to know what
         | BitCoin is but not technical enough to understand the scam.
         | 
         | I think some people are possibly just sending the scammers some
         | money for the banter? A sign of respect for the hack.
        
         | paulpauper wrote:
         | yeah but add verified twitter accounts from authority figures,
         | add nice graphics, livestreams, etc. and it is very convincing
         | for at least enough people to keep the scams going. Twitter and
         | YouTube have millions of users. If just a tiny fraction of them
         | send some BTC, that is a lot of $ given how valuable BTC is.
        
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