[HN Gopher] GITenberg is an open source community for publishing...
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GITenberg is an open source community for publishing ebooks in the
public domain
Author : bilinualcom
Score : 171 points
Date : 2020-08-02 13:14 UTC (9 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.gitenberg.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.gitenberg.org)
| maire wrote:
| This looks like a subset of Project Gutenberg?
|
| The Girl from Alsace in Gitenberg:
| https://www.gitenberg.org/book/35926
|
| The Girl from Alsace in Gutenberg:
| http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/35926
|
| The numbers are even the same which seems suspicious. Hmmm.
| bhickey wrote:
| It's a version controlled dump of Gutenberg.
| chmod775 wrote:
| "GITenberg is an exploration of how Project Gutenberg might
| work if all the Gutenberg texts were on Github, so that tools
| like version control, continuous integration, and pull-request
| workflow could be employed."
|
| https://ebookfoundation.org/
| sethish wrote:
| Yes, absolutely. Apologies if that's not clear from the
| website. GITenberg started as an experimental fork of PG, but
| due to the work of Eric Hellman at the Free Ebook Foundation,
| much of the infrastructure such as metadata formats, CI/CD for
| building books, and DVCS backend are being ported upstream to
| the Project Gutenberg infrastructure.
| maire wrote:
| Thanks for the clarification!
| bilinualcom wrote:
| OP here, I doubt that the website is "a SUBSET of Project
| Gutenberg". This is not mentioned anywhere in the website.
| As mentioned in PG website, while you can use the book
| freely, "The name 'Project Gutenberg' is a registered
| trademark.". I guess this is the reason they didn't mention
| PG.
| sethish wrote:
| Now I remember, that was the reason I wasn't more clear
| about the connection to PG when I wrote the website
| https://github.com/gitenberg-dev/giten_site/. Since then
| my co-founder Eric Hellman has been doing engineering
| work for Project Gutenberg, as well as running the rest
| of the Free Ebook Foundation, which is the parent org of
| GITenberg, free-programing-ebooks, and Unglue.it.
|
| I think that the GITenberg collection contains all of the
| books in PG. At this point, the creation of new repos is
| automatically done when Distributed Proofreaders creates
| a new book in PG. Originally, I didn't include around 400
| PG books due to their creators claiming copyright, and
| didn't include Bruce Sterling's book because he wouldn't
| let me re-license it creative commons rather than his
| pseudo-public-domain license.
|
| Not much has been happening with GITenberg itself in the
| past few years. But luckily, a lot of the concepts and
| code are getting upstreamed into PG. Which in my opinion,
| is way way better.
| bilinualcom wrote:
| Thanks for clarification.
| sethish wrote:
| You might be more familiar with another project the Free Ebook
| Foundation maintains: https://github.com/EbookFoundation/free-
| programming-books/ Which is one of the top-10 repos on github by
| number of stars.
| anaphor wrote:
| I like how they're able to accurately tag translators vs original
| authors, e.g. https://github.com/GITenberg/The-History-of-the-
| Peloponnesia...
| koolba wrote:
| They're probably going to have to change their name to something
| that does not have "git" in it: https://public-
| inbox.org/git/20170202022655.2jwvudhvo4hmueaw...
| sethish wrote:
| Gitenberg was one of the alternate spellings of Gutenberg in
| the 1400s.
| agumonkey wrote:
| I propose Gytenberg
| artiszt wrote:
| or, widely accepted standard [in german and slavic-
| languages] way back then, 'v' instead of 'u', and vice
| versa
| agumonkey wrote:
| ah well for some reason the visual asthetics of gytenberg
| vs gvtenberg made me chose the former (even though at
| first I typed gvtenberg)
| bhickey wrote:
| > It's hard to hold them responsible for picking a name that
| violated a policy that didn't yet exist.
|
| fwiw, Gitenberg has been around at least since 2012.
| metiscus wrote:
| They've been named like that for six years apparently so I'm
| not sure how that works for what you linked above. It is a
| valid point that hopefully doesn't cause problems.
| gravitas wrote:
| The https://standardebooks.org/ project has been rebuilding
| ebooks (open ePUB format) with an eye on quality and readability
| on mobiles/tablets (fonts, copyedit, etc.) which might be of
| interest, all books and the website revision are tracked in git.
| sethish wrote:
| I'm a big fan of standardebooks! They're doing fantastic work
| producing better ebooks from Project Gutenberg sources.
| bilinualcom wrote:
| OP here, I found this website when I was looking for a way to
| get the updated version (with correction) of a PG (Project
| Gutenberg) book and all changes/diffs from the point that I
| scrape the book from PG website for my language learning side
| project: https://www.bilinual.com
|
| The bilinual Project also rebuild ebooks (modern HTML, PDF
| and open ePUB format) with better quality and readability(
| while it is not its prime goal). Take a look at one example
| here:
|
| https://www.bilinual.com/book/18043sven/sv/en#line=68&lpp=23
| https://www.bilinual.com/download/18043sven-sv-en.pdf
| https://www.bilinual.com/download/18043sven-sv-en.epub
| yesenadam wrote:
| Wow, they look awesome, thank you! (Learning spanish here)
| voldemort1968 wrote:
| What is improved by adding Git to PG?
| sethish wrote:
| It's not so much about just adding git to books, but git to the
| transcriptions of books from printed materials. There are
| errors in the transcriptions, many books are lacking
| formatting, and many books pre-date Unicode and are in ascii.
| Tracking the book's source files in git makes it easier to
| collaborate on making these changes, or seeing what changes
| have been made.
| bilinualcom wrote:
| Well, for my side project, https://www.bilinual.com I needed
| version controlling for changes that are made on a book (fixed
| typos, ...) and I found GITenberg project. There are several
| interesting tools developed during the project accessible here:
| https://github.com/gitenberg-dev
| hnarayanan wrote:
| I don't know why, but I expected some amazing typography in their
| PDFs. :(
| sethish wrote:
| [Standard Ebooks](https://standardebooks.org/) has accomplished
| a lot in producing better ebooks of public domain texts.
| bilinualcom wrote:
| OP here, it seems standardebooks doesn't provide the books in
| PDF format. My side project, https://www.bilinual.com rebuild
| the ebooks in PDF format with translation hints, if you don't
| mind about learning a new language while reading your
| favourite books ;)
| sethish wrote:
| There are about 400 GITenberg books that have CC-by
| licensed covers provided by Recovering the Classics. If
| you're interested in using that art for your PDFs I can
| find you the index!
| bilinualcom wrote:
| Thanks, it would be great. I am curious to know why do
| they have CC license and not public domain?
| robin_reala wrote:
| We have this problem with Standard Ebooks. The number of
| people that say things are public domain without actually
| checking it is very high. A CC0 licence is an _explicit
| grant_ of public domain status by the licensor, and hence
| the legal issues rest with them in the event of any
| problem.
|
| Public domain obviously can be ascertained, but if CC0
| hasn't been granted we rely on dated reproductions:
| basically a photograph of the artwork in question in a
| book or journal with a copyright date of 1924 or earlier.
|
| (that's obviously specifically a US legal reading, but SE
| from a legal point of view is a US project)
| thangalin wrote:
| I wrote a technical comparison between various public domain
| eBook projects:
|
| https://dave.autonoma.ca/blog/2020/04/11/project-gutenberg-p...
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