[HN Gopher] 1Password for Linux - Development Preview
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1Password for Linux - Development Preview
Author : terabytest
Score : 119 points
Date : 2020-08-04 20:22 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| dastx wrote:
| Ooh boy. This is amazing. The horrible Linux support they had was
| the reason I left 1Password. This might make me go back to
| 1Password.
| dteare wrote:
| So sorry we scared you away! Linux has been on our radar for a
| while but our biggest challenge was finding a way to share code
| between apps without writing everything in C++. Thankfully we
| found Rust, a systems language built around efficiency and
| safety. From there we were able to build the common core we've
| always dreamed of and were off to the races. Please give us
| another chance and let us know what you think. <3
| jinx1975 wrote:
| I use https://passwordlive.github.io
| laactech wrote:
| I switched from LastPass years ago, and 1Password is great. I use
| a family account, and it's been easy to get my wife to use
| randomly generated passwords.
|
| The only missing piece for me is a native Linux app since I use
| Ubuntu for all my development environments. The web browser
| extension works, but it's a noticeable difference moving between
| it and the windows desktop app. I'm super excited to give this a
| try.
| dteare wrote:
| Awesome! I'm so happy to hear this. We'd love to hear about
| your experiences so please share after you give it a go.
| sickcodebruh wrote:
| I use 1PW professionally, with our whole company having shared
| vaults for different departments and security levels, as well as
| at home, so my wife and I can share some credentials. Absolutely
| love it. I'm spending more and more time working from Ubuntu so
| I'm very happy to see this, it should make things just a bit
| easier.
| ceocoder wrote:
| Unfortunately this only works with hosted 1Password (as far as I
| can tell), there doesn't seem to be any support for self hosted
| vaults. Can Roustem or anyone else from 1Password team clarify
| this?
|
| This was the precise reason I switched to BitWarden 6 months ago,
| needed a solution where my passwords didn't leave my network.
| dteare wrote:
| I'm no Roustem but I'm close. :)
|
| You're right, 1Password for Linux integrates tightly with the
| 1password.com service and as such does not support local
| vaults.
| barnabee wrote:
| I currently get by on Linux by syncing my 1Password vault and
| reimporting it to KeepassXC every time I need a newly added
| or updated entry. Annoying to have to create new entries on
| another devices and sync when I need an account on Linux but
| it works. Looks like this update provides me with nothing
| useful.
|
| There's no way I'm moving to a 1Password account, but I might
| just switch away entirely the next time I need to pay for an
| update or whatever, given the apparent lack of interest in
| serving my needs despite the amount of money I've paid for
| updates, etc. to date and the fact that it's clearly
| technically possible.
| varenc wrote:
| Is this a preview of things to come for Mac/Windows? Will
| 1Password stop supporting self-hosted vaults?
|
| (Which don't require a subscription)
| ceocoder wrote:
| Appreciate your response. I'll reiterate what I've said past
| threads - I love 1Password a lot, and used it exclusively
| from 2012 to early 2020, in addition to using it personally I
| converted majority of my extended family to it as well. What
| irks me is that I paid for the desktop (macOS) app and iOS
| app once back in 2012 and once again for 1Password 7 (or 6?)
| upgrade, that is not enough to support the company and is
| primarily the reason why AgileBits went subscription route.
| Again - 100% understand and I'd like to support this
| business.
|
| I really don't want to store my passwords on your "servers",
| and I'm sure there are few others like me - not a majority.
| In our case BitWarden's idea of paying for a subcription
| (happy to do it), and hosting BitWarden in my own network -
| pretty close to local vaults in terms of analogy.
|
| I still like the UX of 1Password, if you ever allow local
| vaults and still charge subscription, I'll sign up on day 1 -
| I just don't want anything to do with my entire vault being
| hosted elsewhere, potentially irrational but when it comes to
| things we store in 1Password and the like - CC #, Passport
| number, decryption keys, licence codes, launch codes (jk) - I
| feel OK with my irrational paranoia.
|
| Thanks again for making 1Password!
| DRW_ wrote:
| I hope Agilebits considers adding local vault support. I'm a
| long time user and even a subscriber, but I don't actually
| use the account I pay for, for anything except license to use
| the software - I still use local vaults.
|
| I'm happy with this arrangement - it'd be a shame if the
| Linux client never gets this functionality.
| Xylakant wrote:
| So how can I access credentials when I'm not connected to the
| internet? Not at all?
| PascLeRasc wrote:
| 1Password always stores a local cache, you just won't get
| updates from other devices synced.
| the_svd_doctor wrote:
| Its cached locally on desktop app and phone app.
| atarian wrote:
| >Our new app is built on great open source projects like the Rust
| programming language for the underlying logic, and React for a
| responsive component-based UI.
|
| Is this using webview? On Mac I believe the app is completely
| native, so does this mean 1Password will be switching over to
| using webviews across platforms?
| dahfizz wrote:
| Seriously, this is great to see. I've been using LastPass for a
| while but have been unhappy with it. If 1Password is taking Linux
| support seriously, I'll definitely switch.
| xoa wrote:
| Nice to see progress here, though 1P continuing to move away from
| local control to force subscriptions is regrettable. Even so, the
| UI hasn't been matched yet IMO, which is important for getting
| the less technical to use it. We're sadly also still a ways away
| from passwords being eliminated entirely, so it's still very
| important to get everyone using one.
|
| One thing still missing I really hope to see though is the local
| application (on all platforms) supporting hardware tokens for
| unlock (with a backup master option). That'd be a nice extra
| security+convenience option which would work across platforms.
| ghostpepper wrote:
| For many/most types of software I am in the same camp of people
| who would prefer to pay more upfront for a license as long as
| the software continues working as is - I bought it because it
| worked and if I chose to pay more in the future for a better
| version, I will make that decision based on the new features
| added and not the old features being held hostage.
|
| However, for something as high-value as a password manager, I
| think having a subscription model makes a lot of sense. I can't
| think of any other class of product where timely updates from
| the developers are so critical to the utility of the product.
| You could even argue that an unpatched, out of date password
| manager is worse than no password manager.
| shmerl wrote:
| How does it compare to KeePassXC?
| asdajsdh wrote:
| It's proprietary, non-free and all your passwords get send out
| into the wild. So it has all the things for a modern app.
| shmerl wrote:
| Ah, it's not even open source? I'll pass then ;)
| yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
| I assume the downvotes are for tone, but this is materially
| correct. It _is_ proprietary, paid, and stores your data
| (encrypted, but that only solves some things) on remote
| servers, the last point being something that 's associated
| more with newer apps.
| comice wrote:
| I just moved from (paid) 1p to bitwarden at the weekend due to
| lack of proper Linux support. I was just testing bitwarden and
| found I couldn't easily get a good export of my passwords from 1p
| on Linux, because only their desktop apps support that. It won't
| run under wine and I ended up installing a Windows VM
| specifically to do the export.
|
| Was so frustrated at this it pushed me to move to bitwarden. Good
| for them for sorting it though.
| ben0x539 wrote:
| ... I wish I'd thought of booting into my Windows partition and
| installing 1password there, instead of spending an evening
| writing up an extremely overwrought export script on top of the
| commandline client.
| nodesocket wrote:
| 1Password has probably been the single biggest productivity
| increase tool I've ever purchased. Worth every cent, and new
| Linux support news is fantastic.
| emdowling wrote:
| I've been using 1Password every day for over 11 years now. The
| oldest passwords I've got stored are for Twitter and Dropbox
| (yes, the passwords have been changed but the records were first
| created in 2009).
|
| It's one of those apps which has been made with proper
| craftsmanship and care, so while I'm not a Linux user, I'd have
| no problem recommending based solely on Agilebit's reputation.
| e8gy3 wrote:
| I must be easily excitable because this makes me very excited.
| spondyl wrote:
| Ah, amazing! I wonder if it'd be possible to make an Emacs auth
| source using the 1Password CLI? I kinda wish the CLI was more
| like pass
| colordrops wrote:
| I've been using Bitwarden across the browser, Linux, Mac, and
| android, and it works great, and is fully open source, unlike
| 1Password.
| dddw wrote:
| Congratulations! Is there als a CLI?
| monadic2 wrote:
| There is already a CLI client for 1password on linux!
| kanobo wrote:
| Is this better than just using KeepPassXC with a simple kbdx file
| synced to an online drive? It's an honest question, I've never
| used 1Password before.
| sedatk wrote:
| Yes as it isn't subject to accidental overwrites of the data
| file It also has useful integrations like browser extensions so
| can autofill. Not sure if KeePass is capable of that. It's a
| paid app though.
| baal80spam wrote:
| I use KeePass on Windows and it is definitely capable of that
| and much, much more (see Plugins page).
|
| I can't imagine paying for an application when a better one
| is available for free.
| awinder wrote:
| I'm a recent windows 10 convert from Mac and a 1password
| user for years, I have disagreements with my buddy who is a
| long time windows user along these lines _all_ the time. He
| thinks I'm insane for essentially paying for UI I prefer (I
| would disagree I think there's some structural differences,
| but I'm okay with being reduced to that too). It's like
| asking why someone buys anything, the products exist and
| sell and make some people happy while being absolutely
| insane to others. Such is life.
| PascLeRasc wrote:
| I'm also happy to pay for better UI alone but that does
| seem to offend some people. It's usually the same people
| who if they find out you take vitamins will start telling
| you what the placebo effect is.
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