[HN Gopher] ThinkPad 560E
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       ThinkPad 560E
        
       Author : djsumdog
       Score  : 64 points
       Date   : 2020-08-09 04:30 UTC (18 hours ago)
        
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       | ferros wrote:
       | On a slightly related note, fun tip. If you have a 'dead' laptop
       | or mobile phone battery that's too dead to even recharge.. I have
       | 'jumpstarted' some by connecting to a li-ion cordless drill
       | battery for a few minutes.
       | 
       | I've managed to get a few old mobile phones back to life using
       | this method.
       | 
       | Edit: as a safety note this is not recommended! Please read some
       | of the comments below!
        
         | roland35 wrote:
         | I believe this can work but please be careful doing this! Tool
         | batteries are capable of supplying very high peak current and
         | could cause a small fire. Lithium ion battery fires are not
         | trivial, water alone may not be enough to stop it.
        
           | ferros wrote:
           | Good point - I didn't add a disclaimer, not recommended! And
           | probably not a fun tip but nonetheless saved my bacon a few
           | times when I needed quick access to devices.
        
         | londons_explore wrote:
         | This is, in general, a bad idea.
         | 
         | Lithium battery charge circuits generally have a fully charged
         | voltage (about 4.2v), a fully discharged voltage (about 3.2v),
         | and a 'do not attempt to recharge below this' voltage (about
         | 2.4v).
         | 
         | The reason circuits are designed not to recharge a cell below
         | the 2.4v threshold is because when you recharge below that
         | voltage, gasses are typically generated which eventually (many
         | months later usually) burst the plastic envelope of the
         | battery, and the battery electrolyte then evaporates as a
         | highly flammable gas, killing the battery and potentially
         | starting a fire if there is a nearby ignition source.
         | 
         | TL:DR:. 'dead' batteries refuse to charge for safety reasons,
         | and tricks to bypass that safety mechanism might lead to a fire
         | a few months down the line.
        
           | ferros wrote:
           | Appreciate the explanation, not information that's readily
           | found when you search explanations on dead batteries.
        
         | floatingatoll wrote:
         | You'll need at least one B-class fire extinguisher to put out
         | this fire, in case any of you decide to play your hand at
         | setting a battery aflame.
        
       | paulmd wrote:
       | mSATA to IDE adapters in a '2.5" replacement' are widely
       | available and I'd prefer those to a SD card adapter over concerns
       | about wear leveling.
        
         | amiga-workbench wrote:
         | mSATA adapters are my goto now, faffing around with overpriced
         | compact flash drives was getting quite tiresome.
         | 
         | I need to see what compatibility is like on the Amiga, as my
         | 1200 is really finicky about what CF cards it will take.
        
       | nomdep wrote:
       | I had one of those almost 20 years ago. It was already old by
       | then so I install BeOS on it and used it for a while to play
       | movies.
       | 
       | Now I regret that I got rid of it when it didn't boot. :(
        
       | calvinmorrison wrote:
       | Imagine using a computer for, I don't know... Work or something.
       | Typing a letter? Spreadsheets? Tax software, not taking. Seems
       | like you could do all that and more on this.
        
         | jeffbee wrote:
         | Certainly with 80MB of memory you could do all that and more.
         | This machine is more capable in most respects than the machine
         | that was on my desk when that was supposedly a scientific
         | workstation. With 80MB this laptop can easily run Pro/ENGINEER,
         | AutoCAD, Maple, Mathematica, MATLAB, almost anything.
        
       | ptrincr wrote:
       | I first heard of openstep from this brilliant post yesterday
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24091588 ... and here it
       | pops up again.
        
         | Lammy wrote:
         | Not just OpenStep, but Rhapsody! It was Apple's original
         | transition plan for Mac OS X, basically OpenStep/Mach 5.x with
         | a Mac OS 8-style Platinum UI done in NeXT-style Display
         | PostScript complete with draggable menus. It's my favorite
         | Apple product of all time just for the "what could have been"
         | factor, but the Adobes of the world balked at "rewrite your
         | apps in Yellow Box" so we got Carbon and friends in the
         | rebooted Mac OS X project. There was one retail release as "Mac
         | OS X Server 1.0", but the "Premier" desktop-user-focused
         | version was canceled. I like to run Rhapsody on my Power Mac G3
         | Blue&White because that particular machine shipped with
         | Rhapsody (in a Server G3 configuration) and is extremely well
         | supported: https://cooltrainer.org/images/original/michiru-
         | rhapsody-201...
         | 
         | And here are some good starting points for more info:
         | 
         | http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/4B800F78-0F7...
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhapsody_(operating_system)
         | 
         | http://rhapsodyos.org/
        
       | KC8ZKF wrote:
       | Five or six years ago, I bought a lot of three ThinkPad R40
       | Celerons sold for parts, hoping to get one useable machine. I
       | did, ending up with a rather pedestrian LXDE Linux laptop.
       | 
       | Just this week I got a second one running with a whopping 256 MB
       | of RAM, and put OS/2 (ArcaOS) on it. It's quite a snappy machine.
       | Loads of fun.
        
         | ed25519FUUU wrote:
         | Is it a collector thing? Do you use it or was it a fun project
         | and now it's idle?
        
           | KC8ZKF wrote:
           | I'm just playing. It will probably be idle before too long.
           | The Linux box was used in anger for a couple of years.
        
       | projektfu wrote:
       | I had a 560X (233MHz Pentium MMX) that I loved. I was really into
       | Squeak at the time and did a lot of hacking with it. The keyboard
       | eventually fell apart, so I was surprised he found a usable one.
        
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