[HN Gopher] Show HN: EventNative - An open-source, user event co...
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Show HN: EventNative - An open-source, user event collection
service
Author : pwys
Score : 185 points
Date : 2020-08-11 14:03 UTC (8 hours ago)
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| buf wrote:
| Can this replace Segment if I just want events to go to a
| postgres DB?
| pwys wrote:
| Yes! We rolled out Postgres as a destination yesterday. And
| unlike Segment we're free and hosted on your infrastructure.
| buf wrote:
| This is going to save me $1,000s per month. Thank you so
| much. Is there a good way to give back?
| pwys wrote:
| Spread the word and send us a pull request sometime :)
| greg wrote:
| This is really cool. My first impression is an open-source
| replacement for Segment.
| pwys wrote:
| Thanks greg! Kind of like open-source Segment, but we focus on
| data warehouses as the destination. Were are you looking to
| send your data?
| oceanswave wrote:
| Is the intent for EventNative to be used as a way to capture
| events in an eventsourcing pattern, where custom events may be
| generated by microservices or other applications? A follow up if
| that is the case, how are schema migrations handled over time
| vklmn wrote:
| Not really :( We design EventNative to collect data solely for
| analytics purposes. However, you still can send events from
| microservices as well. We're building server-2-server HTTP API
| and will hope that people contribute clients for popular
| languages
| binarymax wrote:
| Can you please clarify, is this for bringing lots of different
| analytics sources to the same location, or is it for capturing
| events itself? I'm having a hard time finding whether I could use
| EventNative by itself to capture, for example, how many visitors
| went to a certain page. Would I need to route google analytics
| through EventNative to get that type of data?
| pwys wrote:
| We actually support both! You can route everything that is
| captured by GA or Segment (analytics.js) through your
| EventNative backend in intercept mode. Or you can configure
| EventNative to capture all these events in direct tracking
| mode.
| binarymax wrote:
| Great! Looks really interesting, thanks for sharing
| nikhilalmeida wrote:
| any comparisons with RudderStack?
| vklmn wrote:
| We anticipated that question :)
|
| RudderStack is focusing on replacing Segment.com completely, we
| focus only on a part of the problem: getting events to DWH.
| Also, we don't have a UI.
|
| By narrowing down the focus, we think we can do a better job
| sending data to DWHs. One example: we automatically create SQL
| schema based on JSON structure. You can send
|
| { "any": { "custom": "a", "field": "b" } }
|
| To EventNative and we'll create any_custom and any_field
| columns in DWH table on a fly.
| ing33k wrote:
| Congratulations on Shipping !
|
| This is an interesting problem to solve .
|
| ClickHouse support will make it way more interesting.
|
| Are you planning to leverage Materialized views ?
| vklmn wrote:
| We actually working on ClickHouse integration right now, it
| will be shipped next week!
|
| Re: materialized views - since not all DWH support them, we're
| not sure how can we leverage them. However, what do you have in
| mind? Maybe we're wrong!
| rp36 wrote:
| How will the visualization work? Any open source tools/queries
| available to view the daily metrics?
| pwys wrote:
| Great question! So far our users query their metrics directly.
| For visualizations you should be able to plug in the opensource
| tool Metabase.
| lolptdr wrote:
| Can you remake or slow down that gif on your readme? It goes way
| too fast.
| pwys wrote:
| Just did :)
| kirankn wrote:
| Would this be a replacement for something like Divolte? If yes,
| any specific reason why one should choose EventNative over
| Divolte, except for the "made in go" argument?
| vklmn wrote:
| Took a look at their github. Great product! However, it
| requires Hadoop or Kafka cluster setup (=devops resourced). We
| designed kSense to be a simple as possible and have as few
| dependencies as possible.
|
| Besides, if you want to data to land at BQ/CH or RedShift with
| Devlot, you'll need add a 3rd-party Kafka->DWH layer. I'm
| pretty sure there'are many oss options. Not sure if they can
| automatically generare SQL schema from JSON object like
| EventNative
| codezero wrote:
| Can't tell from the docs, but how do you deal with "stubbed"
| events that are triggered before segment/GA loads? Are you able
| to do anything to make sure your snippet loads fully before other
| third party scripts that might "do work"?
|
| I guess put more simply, do you need to do work when implementing
| to make sure you don't miss any of the existing events being
| captured, or does this rely on the same developer implementing
| all three?
| vklmn wrote:
| We actually ask to insert a snippet after GA / Segment
| initialization code.
|
| The algo is a follows: a) check if ga / analytics object is
| present b) add interceptor c) if the code was fully loaded (not
| a stup), send "fake" pageview event (which has been already
| sent), intercept it and send to EN backend only (not the
| original backend).
|
| Also, we received a pull request that won't require EN code be
| inserted after GA/Segment. It tries to get window.ga/analytics
| object. If it doesn't exist, try the same thing in 1 second via
| setTimeout. We most likely with merge it to master soon
| pachico wrote:
| What I gets me wondering is that by having your own hosted
| solution you bypass adblockers but this implementation
| requires GA to be loaded, which is what adblockers block in
| the first place. Am I missing anything?
| pwys wrote:
| While we do have a hook to intercept GA data, it is
| actually optional! You can use the self hosted JS tracker
| that we include with EventNative and serve it from your
| domain.
| pachico wrote:
| Ok, if this project gets traction it might replace my own
| analytics solution based on JavaScript, Go and ClickHouse. I'll
| stay tuned about it. Are the maintainers in the room? I'd like to
| exchange some ideas.
| vklmn wrote:
| Maintainers are here! (it's me, @pwys and @xtreding) Actually,
| we have a Slack: https://eventnative.slack.com/ You're welcome
| to join!
| pachico wrote:
| Thanks a lot! I'll join asap!
| dang wrote:
| If you're posting a Show HN here, please exchange ideas here.
| That's the whole point of Show HNs as well as the purpose of
| this site, and starving this thread of discussion is not
| going to help you.
| pachico wrote:
| I do understand the purpose or your post and I celebrate
| it, however this medium might lack some of the features
| Slack has which makes it quite easier to follow up ideas.
| pachico wrote:
| Can you send me an invitation to pachicodev at gmail dot com?
| pwys wrote:
| done!
| pwys wrote:
| Looks like that is the sign in link, here's the one to join!
| https://join.slack.com/t/eventnative/shared_invite/zt-
| gincgy...
| DoctorNick wrote:
| Just curious, do you also detect if content in the web page is
| changed or if content is blocked by adblock?
| sercand wrote:
| We have in-house almost the same thing which is also written in
| Go. It uses gRPC and mobile clients are automatically generated
| by protobuf.
|
| This kind of internal service is required if you are operating a
| business for children and families.
| vklmn wrote:
| That's the exact reason we decided to build EventNative and
| opensource it. We noticed that a lot of teams are building
| similar platforms in house
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