[HN Gopher] How Internet Archive Is Ensuring Permanent Access to... ___________________________________________________________________ How Internet Archive Is Ensuring Permanent Access to Open Access Journals Author : constantinum Score : 74 points Date : 2020-09-15 19:10 UTC (3 hours ago) (HTM) web link (blog.archive.org) (TXT) w3m dump (blog.archive.org) | causality0 wrote: | This is a good thing to do, but for once, I'm not sure the | Internet Archive is the right entity to do it. I don't think the | IA can ensure permanent access to anything at all right now since | it's facing an existential threat as a result of its "lend copies | of books that belong to other institutions" stunt. | gojomo wrote: | Choosing any one "the right entity" is the _wrong_ strategy for | truly robust preservation. | | Redundancy in a variety of organizations & technical regimes | best ensures durability against all risks. So the IA's efforts | here should be encouraged, _and_ those of every other project | able to take on similar duties. | | And if vaguely implying that the IA is inadequate, please at | least hint at potential alternatives who are or could be doing | the necessary work instead. Note that anyone concerned about | IA's longevity can and should leverage IA's groundwork - such | as by mirroring its collections elsewhere, as is fairly | straightforward either via explicit coordination or even | dark/uncoordinated scraping. | est31 wrote: | Yeah archives can be affected by multiple threats. Fire, | natural catastrophies, etc. are one. Those can be fixed | within the organization, by creating redundant copies in | different places. There are organizational threats as well, | affecting the structure running the archive. It's the | guardians of the archive not being able or willing to | preserve parts or all of it. The lawsuit is such an | organizational threat. | mellosouls wrote: | Your point about multiple points of failure is well made, but | one of the problems with the constant focus on the admirable | efforts of the Internet Archive here and elsewhere is | precisely that the many other archiving and digital | preservation efforts go by relatively unheralded and | underfunded. | | Having said that, the spotlight on the IA does give | opportunity to raise the profile of web archiving and digital | preservation generally; we just need to be careful not to | invest everything in any one initiative - as the parent | comment fairly points out. | cxr wrote: | > please at least hint at potential alternatives who are or | could be doing the necessary work instead. | | For this particular use case, Perma.cc has significant | institutional backing. | | https://perma.cc/ | | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10948033 | bnewbold wrote: | Link back to recent discussion on this topic: | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24422593 ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2020-09-15 23:00 UTC)