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       Twister OS: Make Raspberry Pi Look Like Windows or macOS
        
       Author : yboris
       Score  : 89 points
       Date   : 2020-09-19 16:50 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (twisteros.com)
        
       | peacefulhat wrote:
       | I thought this meant that Twister was so barebones it would make
       | Raspberry Pi look like a heavyweight desktop OS.
        
       | chadlavi wrote:
       | neat
        
       | jerrysievert wrote:
       | a couple of things that jumped out at me:
       | 
       | > _Is Twister OS a 64-bit OS?_
       | 
       | > Twister OS is a 32-bit OS.
       | 
       | > _Why is Steam not starting for me?_
       | 
       | > Sadly Valve will be dropping 32-bit support and due to this
       | poor discision on their part we've had no choice but to
       | discontinue support for Steam on Twister OS.
       | 
       | twister os might want to consider dropping 32bit support
       | themselves, especially given that their minimum requirements are
       | a pi4.
        
         | csande17 wrote:
         | The Steam thing looks like a separate issue from whether
         | Twister OS is 32- or 64-bit. They're running the x86 version of
         | Steam in an emulator, and that emulator probably only supports
         | 32-but software.
        
           | Hydraulix989 wrote:
           | Do the games run in an emulator, too?
        
           | ThatPlayer wrote:
           | This is exactly it. They're using box86 [
           | https://github.com/ptitSeb/box86 ] which allows you to run
           | x86 but not x86_64 Linux programs on ARM Linux.
        
       | GekkePrutser wrote:
       | Really nice effort.
       | 
       | The question is though: why? :)
       | 
       | But cool nonetheless
        
       | buzzert wrote:
       | This looks great, but why is it a whole OS image and not just a
       | set of themes?
        
       | DataCrayon wrote:
       | Looks great! Are you aware of anything that gives a macOS look-
       | and-feel to Ubuntu Desktop?
        
         | moonchild wrote:
         | You may be interested in elementary os[1]. All their stuff is
         | oss, though I don't know how easy it would be to use it on
         | ubuntu.
         | 
         | 1. https://elementary.io/
        
           | easton wrote:
           | It's just add a ppa (ppa:elementary-os/stable) and sudo apt-
           | get install elementary-desktop.
        
         | selftest wrote:
         | Like a dock and menu bar? Tint2 for the dock. I believe Cairo
         | dock is also an option. Polybar for the top bar.
         | 
         | Keep in mind that achieving specific looks often requires tons
         | of time in configuration and hunting down specific tools or
         | fixes. For instance, rounded corners might be a feature of your
         | WM, your compositor or a combination of both. Some stuff will
         | only work correctly if you're using the right DE while others
         | will only work if you use no DE at all.
        
           | DataCrayon wrote:
           | Thanks, not heard of Tint2 or Polybar before, will check them
           | out.
        
       | geek_at wrote:
       | Just tried it and got a kernel panic on a Pi4 at first boot. Damn
       | it really looked nice on the website
        
       | rvz wrote:
       | I mean. On the Windows side, you can actually try out the real
       | Windows 10 on your Raspberry Pi and actually run full x86 Windows
       | programs on it. [0]
       | 
       | So looking at this, it is more like a re-heated version of
       | Lindows.
       | 
       | [0] https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/02/09/heres-how-
       | windows-1...
        
       | traceroute66 wrote:
       | I don't get these sorts of "make X look like Y" products (Twister
       | OS isn't the only one out there).
       | 
       | You can't polish a turd but you can roll it in glitter.
       | 
       | A Pi is always going to be a Pi. Its always going to be a Linux
       | thing (Debian IIRC).
       | 
       | If you want Windows, buy a PC.
       | 
       | If you want macOS, but a Mac.
       | 
       | But to me at least there's very little point indeed making the UI
       | look sort of, maybe, like Windows or macOS if the UX is going to
       | still be Linux.
        
         | asutekku wrote:
         | If I'm going to use something extremely low powered that has
         | graphical abilities, then at least i'd like it to look nice.
        
         | Fnoord wrote:
         | If you're used to X, and can make Y look and function like X,
         | this is useful. It can also be fun, which by itself is useful.
         | Important project? Subjective.
         | 
         | I tend to make a lot of apps Solarized. E-mail (Mutt/Postbox),
         | Sublime/Vim, iTerm, even HN, for example are all Solarized
         | (dark to be precise). That's also different than the original
         | UI.
         | 
         | Also, for some machines there's no macOS (very high end, and
         | embedded like this one). Hackintosh has its drawbacks, and
         | doesn't exist for ARM.
         | 
         | Regarding Windows, there have been UIs for *NIX which looked
         | like a version of Windows since ever since I started using
         | Linux (RedHat 5.2 somewhere end of 90s).
        
           | saagarjha wrote:
           | I use Solarized everywhere, largely because it is generally
           | available for almost every developer tool and it is dead-
           | simple to do light/dark mode setup. However, this is
           | completely different than theming an OS to look like another
           | you use: the amount of work to even get something basic is
           | significantly more, and usually the end result sucks
           | regardless.
        
         | renewiltord wrote:
         | I don't understand why people make comments like this. Not that
         | I'm offended or anything. I don't care much for this theming
         | myself. But...that's what personal preference is? There's
         | nothing to get. It's like saying "I don't get why people like
         | dark chocolate. I don't like dark chocolate. Just eat cocoa
         | powder if you want to avoid milk and sugar".
         | 
         | It's like the most information-sparse comment someone could
         | make. I can't do anything with it. "Some rando on the Internet
         | doesn't like this". Cool.
        
         | giancarlostoro wrote:
         | > A Pi is always going to be a Pi. Its always going to be a
         | Linux thing (Debian IIRC).
         | 
         | Or any compatible Linux Distro: openSUSE, Ubuntu, Windows for
         | IoT, and so on....
        
         | jrm4 wrote:
         | Anything that gets to get to the truth of the matter -- which
         | is that the vast majority of the effort spent by developers and
         | programmers on Window Managers and Desktops and Desktop
         | Managers is mostly a waste of time.
         | 
         | Obviously, people can choose to spend their time how they want
         | -- but I really wish more would consider the possibility that
         | there's entirely too much energy spent on small changes related
         | to just the tiny amount of time between "turning on the
         | computer" and "starting your real work or fun in an
         | application."
        
         | jagged-chisel wrote:
         | > You can't polish a turd.
         | 
         | You can[1].
         | 
         | I think projects like this are a good step to/from familiarity.
         | "Oh, it looks like what I'm accustomed to, maybe I _can_ learn
         | this... " or "I'd really like something small on which to
         | emulate my desktop of choice, but it's not available on the
         | small device, maybe I can start from here..."
         | 
         | 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI
        
           | aequitas wrote:
           | Problem is even though it looks familiar it feels anything
           | but. I spent a considerable amount of time making my work
           | Linux environment feel (I don't care mucht about the looks)
           | like my Mac at home, Things like keyboard shortcuts, terminal
           | application, spotlight, expose window movement, etc. Because
           | I just don't want to keep adjusting my workflow between two
           | different systems. But it's really hard to get it done
           | completely or find a common middleground that works
           | effectively on both systems.
        
       | 0xCMP wrote:
       | Wow, there are a lot more features in this thing than the website
       | says.
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaSujCZFIgs
       | 
       | I wish they'd explain more on the website on what this offers,
       | how it's configured and etc.
        
         | dheera wrote:
         | What window manager is this, and are the themes available
         | outside of TwisterOS?
         | 
         | This might actually be a good WM for Ubuntu desktop!
         | 
         | On my Pi I don't take a crap about how it looks, I usually
         | disable the GUI anyway for efficiency in IOT and robotics
         | projects.
        
         | adamkochanowicz wrote:
         | Ditto. Why did they use the least compelling screenshot on the
         | homepage? The other macos theme is way more like the original.
         | Spotlight search, notification center, dock, etc.
        
           | Brett_S wrote:
           | Possibly they did not want the attention of the legal
           | departments at two very large companies given they developed
           | GUIs that look very similar to their IP?
        
           | GekkePrutser wrote:
           | There's more screenshots, you can go through them.
        
         | summitsummit wrote:
         | cool! i didn't realize until i watched this video that looks
         | were such a dominant factor making me amenable to making a
         | switch to such an os
        
       | MichaelZuo wrote:
       | That is cool! Seems like it opens up the possibility for easy GUI
       | customization too.
        
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