[HN Gopher] Publishers worry as ebooks fly off libraries' virtua...
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       Publishers worry as ebooks fly off libraries' virtual shelves
        
       Author : headalgorithm
       Score  : 30 points
       Date   : 2020-10-01 11:43 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | matthewmcg wrote:
       | This has been a godsend for us with a young reader that loves
       | series books ( _Boxcar Children_ and the like) and our library
       | closed for in person visits. There are literally hundreds of
       | titles in some of these series, so she can pretty much always
       | find one to read or re-read, even if most of them are checked
       | out.
       | 
       | I would dispute that this hurts sales--at least for us. The long
       | hold times and 2-week checkout limit mean that I'll often buy the
       | ebook to complete it or read it without waiting in the queue.
        
       | Mindless2112 wrote:
       | I'm more concerned for the libraries. They lose their ebooks
       | after 2 years or 26/52 checkouts? Physical books can last for
       | decades and innumerable checkouts if you have respectful patrons
       | -- long enough that libraries eventually sell off old books to
       | get shelf space for new ones.
        
         | thomaslangston wrote:
         | Do you have a reference for that?
         | 
         | My previous experience working at a library and a brief web
         | search leads me to believe 26 checkouts is significantly above
         | average for a hardback lifespan.
        
       | _fs wrote:
       | In the last few months, me and my family have taken advantage of
       | both Libby, for primarily audiobooks, and Hoopla, for children's
       | books. Both were available through my library. To increase my
       | ability to get books, I even registered for library accounts in
       | several metropolitan districts near my house, and Libby is happy
       | to accommodate, letting me place holds across multiple library
       | systems.
       | 
       | Before I never really liked reading childrens books on my Ipad,
       | but with cool features like read along, me and the kids have been
       | enjoying 1-2 rentals a night.
        
       | clankyclanker wrote:
       | Can we stop with the "access to copies for which the publisher is
       | being paid less per access kills markets" shtick already?
       | 
       | It's been twenty plus years since Napster and the only sourced
       | data I've seen, that isn't simply publishers' hypothetical
       | handwringing, says that exposure creates desire and increases the
       | size of the purchase market over a several year span. Tech dirt
       | had a few stories, iirc.
        
       | Aerroon wrote:
       | This just seems like a bizarre worry to me. I wonder whether
       | these kinds of lending schemes might not have kept piracy at bay
       | when it comes to digital books. Obviously piracy exists, but it
       | appears to be much less common than in other forms of media.
       | Worrying about people legally _borrowing_ books seems like a much
       | smaller worry.
        
       | adventured wrote:
       | I'm surprised I rarely see concern for virtual book sharing
       | killing off the vast US public library system that has so far -
       | and rather remarkably - successfully survived the mass use of the
       | Internet and rise of Amazon's Kindle. That public library system
       | is a national treasure and needs to be protected.
       | 
       | If virtual book sharing becomes very common online, the majority
       | of public libraries will die. It'll consolidate down to a smaller
       | number of large public libraries that do the lending. Even if
       | just half of small public libraries close, it'll be an enormous
       | cultural tragedy. It's common for small towns and cities in the
       | US to have public libraries, they're invaluable resources and
       | part of our national heritage. I'd rather not see our national
       | public book stock and access relegated to further intense
       | centralization.
       | 
       | I grew up in a smaller town in Appalachia, we had a great public
       | library and we were fortunate to have it. It was on the larger
       | side and mostly well run. Everyone used it, everyone had a
       | library card as a rite of passage. It also had community value
       | far beyond the book utility value. (I use the past tense for my
       | own experience, however it's still a fully operational library)
        
         | mumblemumble wrote:
         | > If virtual book sharing becomes very common online, the
         | majority of public libraries will die.
         | 
         | As long as their mission is allowed to change with the times, I
         | don't see this as an inevitability. Supposedly my local public
         | library has seen usage of library resources continue to
         | increase even as people check out fewer physical books. My
         | cousin, who is a librarian for a different city, reports the
         | same thing - at least pre-pandemic, her library was busier than
         | ever.
        
         | smogcutter wrote:
         | 100%. I've also noticed libraries branching into other services
         | that fit their mission. The library in Glendale, CA, for
         | example, has a maker space with a publicly accessible 3d
         | printer. Things like that, that are educational, and have
         | public value but a high capital cost of entry for individuals,
         | are a great fit for libraries. There are even libraries where
         | you can check out hand tools and the like.
        
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