[HN Gopher] Biggest Y Combinator Failed Startups
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Biggest Y Combinator Failed Startups
Author : nicocerdeira
Score : 183 points
Date : 2020-10-09 18:58 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| moron4hire wrote:
| That's not why Meta failed. Meta failed because their product was
| garbage.
| TwoBit wrote:
| Has any AR product not been garbage?
| cyrux004 wrote:
| but none of the CEOs say that you have to switch from using
| monitors at the company to AR glasses
| moron4hire wrote:
| The HoloLens 1 does what it claims to do. It is
| uncomfortable, the FOV is narrow, but it's usable and there
| aren't any big, negative surprises. You can use it and say,
| "yeah, I get it, I can see where this is going".
|
| The Magic Leap doesn't do what they claimed it would do. But
| it does do what the HoloLens 1 does, _slightly_ better in
| some areas, _slightly_ worse in others.
|
| The Meta2 was fundamentally broken. Nothing on it worked
| correctly. Everything on it was a hack job.
| cyrux004 wrote:
| I will have to agree. The tarrif war accelerated their demise;
| but there product was far from ready. Infact the CEO of Meta
| said at some point said that employees will be required to
| shift from monitors to using Meta and they werent able to reach
| that goal because their tech (or AR in general) wasnt there
| PradeetPatel wrote:
| "The Trump administration's trade war with China resulted in a
| failed funding round led by a Chinese investor..."
|
| Is there another president that's so callous about small medium
| sized businesses?
| Mascobot wrote:
| This list seems to be a biased list. I thought the list was first
| in descending order (funding), but it's not. Some super early
| stage startups were picked for some reason in the bottom section?
|
| To clarify: by numbers, the vast majority of startups fail, and
| that's part of trying new things until one of them works great. I
| know multiple founder friends that had 1-3 *big failures before
| they built a great company after that.
| knes wrote:
| How can you make a list of failed yc companies and not mention
| homejoy?
|
| $66m raised, bad operations, bas unit economics, lawsuits and an
| abrupt shutdown.
|
| All of that after being the calley darling for so long.
| tikwon34 wrote:
| Regardless of who stole the data, does it have to do fact that
| they are chinese? Ever wonder if something cultural going on
| here?
| pmiller2 wrote:
| It's clearly not a very complete list. I wish they had
| presented a more complete list, filterable by funding round,
| amount raised, year founded, year shut down, and maybe one or 2
| other things.
| nicocerdeira wrote:
| Maybe something like this (https://www.failory.com/cemetery),
| but only for YC startups?
| kapitalx wrote:
| I used HomeJoy once, a student showed up and said "Wow your
| house looks pretty clean already, I'm not sure what I would
| even do". My apartment was tidy, but it wasn't clean (at least
| by my standards)
| nicocerdeira wrote:
| Will add it!
| Sindrome wrote:
| Maybe because the CEO is now a YC exec
| WoahNoun wrote:
| After stealing HomeJoy's customer DB for another start-up, she
| is now a YC partner...
|
| Move fast and break things?
| sillysaurusx wrote:
| Ok, the situation seems to be: brother and sister cofounded
| startup; startup failed; brother acquired failed startup's
| assets via legal proceedings.
|
| Which part of this is illegal, or -- I'll meet you halfway --
| unethical? It seems like a straightforward business
| transaction.
|
| If I'm missing something nefarious, I'd like to educate
| myself to avoid it. What do you see as the problem?
|
| (Apologies if my facts are incorrect; this is info from
| elsewhere in the thread, so maybe you know something that
| hasn't been said yet.)
| avery42 wrote:
| I'm not familiar with the story, but this is what I found:
| https://www.businessinsider.com/aaron-cheung-brings-
| homejoy-...
|
| > The weird tale begins with an email that John Salzarulo
| received Tuesday afternoon. A Los Angeles based user,
| Salzarulo received an email from Cheung that "$20 cleaning
| is back!" thanks to its local partner.
|
| > "I wanted to reach out personally today to invite you to
| join a private house cleaning trial with our Los Angeles
| partner, Fly Maids," Cheung wrote, not disclosing his
| connection to the company.
|
| > When Salzarulo clicked the email link, the Fly Maids'
| site logged him into his Homejoy account, which still had
| his credit card number and notes about where to find the
| trash can.
|
| I don't know if it's illegal, but I definitely think it's
| unethical.
| sillysaurusx wrote:
| Hmmm.
|
| Thank you for finding that! This opens up a fascinating
| discussion about ethics.
|
| So, to start from a purely capitalistic viewpoint, it
| seems like you are free to use your property that you own
| however you wish, subject to the law. That raises
| questions like: in this situation, is it legal for the CC
| numbers to be stored in that way? From the customer's
| POV, they authorized HomeJoy to store their CC info, not
| Fly Maids. But that leads to the question of: those CC
| numbers are stored somewhere (or the authorization token)
| and those assets were a part of the sale.
|
| I don't know. It's a massive advantage to have your
| customers in a position of "just click this button to
| give us money" rather than pestering for CC details.
|
| It's a little odd, to be sure, but... it seems like
| unless it's illegal, it might not be unethical to take
| advantage of that opportunity. It depends how you feel
| about capitalism, I suppose. _If_ there was nothing
| illegal here, which seems perhaps likely, then it seems
| valid.
|
| From another point of view, it sounds like he was just
| trying very hard to succeed, and in some sense Fly Maids
| was the continuation of his previous endeavor. So I sort
| of understand why it might have felt natural to reach out
| to the customers you were already doing business with.
|
| But again, all of this has two important assumptions: (a)
| he legally owned all assets, and (b) used those assets to
| the letter of the law. If those are mistaken then someone
| with more experience should definitely call it out.
|
| "When we contacted customers, we didn't tell them we were
| Homejoy relaunching because we wanted to gauge reception
| to our new model without the influence of Homejoy's
| brand," Cheung allegedly wrote. "As a result, we scared
| many customers, who expected the worst had happened to
| their data. We should have told customers upfront who we
| were, what we were testing, and used original content."
|
| I dunno. This seems pretty reasonable, honestly. It kind
| of alarms me that you see this as clearly unethical,
| because I could see myself making this same mistake, in a
| different life. If you feel like explaining more of the
| reasoning regarding the ethics, I'd personally find it
| interesting to listen.
| mijamo wrote:
| Not everything is an asset. You do not legally own the
| credit card numbers. At most you own the right to use
| them to fulfill a contract. Just like if I share my
| screen with an IT support company that does not give them
| the right to suddenly transfer my screen to an
| advertising company, except if I have been explicitly
| told that would happen (and no, terms and conditions are
| not enough for that, because it is way out of the
| expected behavior of the contract, just like having terms
| that make the user pay a billion dollar on each visit
| would not make it work either).
| mattkrisiloff wrote:
| I used to work alongside Adora at YC and she works super hard
| for the startups she is working with and is very helpful --
| totally justified for her to be there.
| tikwon34 wrote:
| so you said it and we should buy it? Why? Because you had
| successful experience? What about people whose data is
| stolen?
| swyx wrote:
| i dont know Adora and i'm sure she has useful things to teach
| people. however i really wonder if this clouds every
| interaction with people going through YC. it's kind of the
| huge elephant in the room.
| Judgmentality wrote:
| I guess people can brand themselves as "successful" after
| what is by all objective standards a spectacular failure.
|
| I have no idea how impressive Adora is and I cannot speak to
| her qualifications, but HomeJoy should be a textbook example
| of an SV failure.
| [deleted]
| cvhashim wrote:
| This comment a little sexist. Is it just me?
| Judgmentality wrote:
| How is my comment sexist?
| IncRnd wrote:
| It's just you.
| twmahna wrote:
| The person who was accused of "stealing customer data" was
| the other co-founder - not Adora (CEO & now YC partner).
|
| If you actually look into the details of the matter, what
| happened was that the co-founder acquired the failed company
| as it was put through a bankruptcy process.
|
| People who weren't privy to the process thought it was
| stealing when it really wasn't different from any other
| acquisition.
| TimSchumann wrote:
| > The person who was accused of "stealing customer data"
| was the co-founder, not the CEO & now YC partner.
|
| So, her brother?
| WoahNoun wrote:
| My comment doesn't use the word CEO so I'm not sure what
| point you are making.
| [deleted]
| jeromegv wrote:
| How can you say all that and not mention the fact that they
| are sibling? You make it sound like 2 separate person that
| have no relationship to each other. It looks like you have
| something to hide by just ignoring that big fact.
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homejoy
| tt433 wrote:
| Don't you think it's possible that the person you're
| responding to has a different understanding of what a
| sibling relationship means? I think it's a little rude to
| inject your feelings about what a sibling relationship
| must be and resort to innuendo.
| kevinskii wrote:
| You're right that it may not have been "stealing" in the
| strict legal sense, but it was unethical and deceptive.
| More details here:
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10466888
| hnracer wrote:
| In the hedge fund world there is a mindset that if you're
| going to fail, you must fail BIG (without breaking the law).
| Then you get a sort of undeserved glamor associated with the
| failure that can actually lead to new opportunities. For
| example, the case of Brian Hunter, if he failed small he
| would've been long forgotten.
| nxmnxm99 wrote:
| She railroaded our YC interview for having a similar model
| (albeit in a different vertical) simply because she failed,
| so naturally we would also fail. Aaron Harris, another failed
| entrepreneur turned YC partner, has routinely done the same
| I've heard.
|
| We're now 2 years later pushing $2M ARR profitably and about
| to raise our Series A. YC not taking 7% of our company was
| the best thing that ever happened to us.
|
| YCombinator is nothing like what it used to be. The majority
| of the partners are useless as venture partners.
| nodesocket wrote:
| While seemingly harsh criticism, I think you may be right.
| YC of the old (PG, Jessica, etc) was much more selective
| and smaller inner circle. However, even when PG was at the
| helm he said they passed on many insanely lucrative
| opportunities.
|
| Picking startups is hard, like picking stocks. You aren't
| gonna pick every winner, but frankly 2M in ARR after two
| years is not exactly a home-run for YC. So, perhaps them
| passing was the right call for YC.
|
| Congrats though, sounds like you've built something useful
| and you can be proud of that. Plus, taking VC money ain't
| all it's cracked up to be. If you can bootstrap to get to a
| level that pay's yourself $200-300k a year, that's a win.
| jkarneges wrote:
| > frankly 2M in ARR after two years is not exactly a
| home-run for YC
|
| It's been awhile since I looked at this deeply, but I
| thought the path of a good startup is to raise a seed
| with an 18 month runway, grow to 1m ARR, and then raise a
| series A. Assuming that's true, growing to 2m ARR in 2
| years is in the ballpark.
| crazydoggers wrote:
| $2M ARR is such a small part of the story though. You
| really have to look at things like cost of acquisition,
| churn, gross profit, along with understanding the market
| itself. Certain markets can be easy to create quick ARR
| either through enormous CAC spends and/or large amounts
| of churn, all of which means poor long term growth
| potential.
| cvhashim wrote:
| That's just what happens when worthwhile initiatives get
| too big and bloated. I'm sure there was a sweet spot YC was
| in years ago but I guess it's no longer that.
| hnracer wrote:
| There's a phenomenon I've noticed in job interviews where
| the interviewer will in a sense torture the interviewee if
| it's a domain that the interviewer has expertise in, asking
| needlessly complex questions as if to grandstand and show
| off. It becomes theatrical and I can only attribute that to
| some level of sadism- or narcissism-like traits. I am not
| impugning Adora's motives here just commenting on my own
| experience.
| dx87 wrote:
| I had an interviewer do that once, and it was clearly
| just to show that he knew more obscure technical info
| that I did, even though it was at a much lower level than
| was required for the job. The other interviewer even
| sighed and rolled their eyes at him, so I'm guessing it
| isn't the first time he'd done it.
| TimSchumann wrote:
| I understand there's probably a desire to stay at least
| pseudo-anonymous, given that your account was created 42
| minutes ago as of this posting, but I'd like to hear more
| of this story. Feel free to post here or contact me
| directly via the info in my profile.
| quartz wrote:
| Interesting that two of these (three if you count Unicorn Rides
| which is a note within Boosted) are hardware companies and both
| were a result of the recent tariff war with China.
|
| I've always known startups are hard but it seems that hardware
| startups, even when they appear to be on a rocketship trajectory,
| are nigh impossible.
| ghaff wrote:
| Hardware is often a lot more capital intensive, harder to get
| to an MVP, and, these days, often requires software _in
| addition to_ hardware.
| lnsru wrote:
| And that's the reasons why all the capital sources avoid
| hardware startups as hard as they can. It's like betting for
| a 10x slower horse than the rest.
| amichal wrote:
| A really good idea. Not at all the same social/economic climate
| as it was at the time but I couldn't help remembering
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucked_Company which really lent
| some perspective to industry when it was so hard to understand
| where the hell all these dotcoms came from and why not all of us
| were getting the millions.
| nimacainn wrote:
| Missing from that list is Grin Scooters / Grow Mobility
| (e-scooters for LATAM) which is probably one of the biggest
| failures out of all YC companies in terms of investment money
| raised.
|
| They raised $70M as Grin and then $150M after the merger with
| Yellow. I think at Demo Day they were trying to raise at a $100M
| cap with just an idea / pre-launch. After raising an insane
| amount of money in a matter of moths, they expanded extremely
| quickly to dozens of cities in several countries in LATAM while
| having bad unit economics ("land-grab"). There are likely
| interesting learning lessons there.
| jyu wrote:
| No list of YC failures is complete without mentioning Loopt.
| dyeje wrote:
| I remember seeing that Buttermilk company arguing with people on
| their Facebook ads.
| tikwon34 wrote:
| I have this question on my mind and if someone could explain this
| sincerely I would be very grateful.
|
| Time after time, YC startups seem to engage in practices which
| are unethical or dark or downright scammy. Be it Homejoy, uBiome,
| AirBnB (updating consent without asking). They seem to employ
| aggresive marketing tactics. They work under assumption that "law
| does not apply to us". Although this is true for ultra rich
| people, why regular seed funded do it? Is growth focus this much
| necessary to the to do outright fraud or in engage in shady
| tactics? They are willing to kill other people's business and
| livelihood for their growth. I would call this "preying tactics"
|
| Paul is very successful person and I read about him a lot. Why
| companies going through YC do this? Or is this just Business-as-
| usual (BAU) in Americas? Kill or be killed?
|
| Thanks for responding!
| goatcode wrote:
| I wonder who the founders were for Plurchase. It's kind of weird
| that they're the only one without this info listed.
| pmiller2 wrote:
| This is my first time hearing about uBiome. Oh well, at least I
| have one of their t-shirts from some startup trade show thingie I
| went to. It's pretty cool looking.
| LeCow wrote:
| Does Theranos count?
|
| I'd say they achieved even less than most start-ups.
| cortesoft wrote:
| No, they don't count, because they were not a Y Combinator
| startup.
| qppo wrote:
| Theranos wasn't a YC company
| troygoode wrote:
| Why would Theranos count? They were not YC.
| lifeisstillgood wrote:
| To all those who failed (apart from the weird sounding fraud with
| the FBI), well done for actually climbing into the arena and
| fighting. Better luck next time.
|
| To the rest of us. Schadenfreude is its own reward.
| the-dude wrote:
| Which reminds me : only 13 days to when the interview invitations
| will be sent.
| gkoberger wrote:
| I don't get the last section, where you just name 4-5 small
| "failed" startups. For most of them, you don't even have any real
| insights!
|
| Why pick on them, for no reason? They didn't do anything
| unethical, and most didn't seem to even raise a Series A.
|
| You have no clue why they failed; you just speculate... and you
| don't just name the companies, you call out random founders by
| name. These people put themselves out there and worked hard, and
| now they're going to get a Google Alert saying they're in a blog
| post called "Biggest Y Combinator Failed Startups."
|
| Most YC companies don't work out. In my batch (5 years ago),
| about 80% are out of business now. That's okay! That's just how
| it works. I'm all for talking about failures, but it's weird you
| just pick on a few small random YC startups.
| sillysaurusx wrote:
| I had the same reaction, but then I was delighted they included
| these smaller examples. It was especially interesting to hear
| about the desktop search startup from the summer founder's
| program.
|
| There's an inclination to view this sort of thing as
| adversarial / picking on the founders, especially because there
| are a lot of haters for successful people in general. But this
| piece seemed clinical, not critical.
| nicocerdeira wrote:
| We aimed to cover different sizes of business, industries,
| raising funds, etc. as our audience is quite broad.
| gkoberger wrote:
| Why call it "Biggest Y Combinator Failed Startups," and just
| randomly pick on some very small companies that weren't even
| contacted for their side of the story?
|
| Like, what could anyone learn about from what you wrote
| about, for example, the vegan milk startup? You just picked
| on a random small company, and then said generic stuff about
| "economies of scale".
|
| I love hearing about failures (and am happy to talk about my
| own!), but there's a difference between exploring what went
| wrong, and "punching down". Now when you Google their names,
| "Biggest Y Combinator Failed Startups" will be the result.
| Unfair.
| whymauri wrote:
| I think Failory is meant to be an educational tool for
| founders. I suppose there's lessons to be learned at any scale.
| deft wrote:
| I like how stealing is called growth-hacking now!
| cbisnett wrote:
| This article says Atrium ran out of money, but I feel like Justin
| Kan's blog post said they gave tens of millions back to investors
| when they shut down.
| ryanSrich wrote:
| Yeah, I commented that the list is incomplete and at times
| straight up wrong. This is one example. Atrium absolutely did
| not run out of money.
| pvorb wrote:
| Anyone else thought that the list of failed startups starts with
| NerdPilots? That ad is a little misplaced.
| tpurves wrote:
| I didn't realize it wasn't first on yhe list until I read your
| post! I though to myself, of course, why would YC fund a
| contract development shop, such a wrong model for VC no wonder
| they must have failed.
| atlasunshrugged wrote:
| They did fund Gigster which is what the business model was in
| essence
| hluska wrote:
| Ha!! This makes my day - I thought they were on the list of
| failed startups too, thought the way fact same thing as you
| and didn't even realize they weren't a YC company until I got
| here. :)
|
| Thanks friend - I needed that chuckle today!
| bilbopotter wrote:
| "Sponsored by" didn't do it for you
| rdw wrote:
| Yeah, the ads were pretty intrusive in this article. Still got
| us all to engage, though! Some content marketer is happy today.
| pvarangot wrote:
| Yup, I was "oh they failed fast!" and then realized it was an
| ad.
| troughway wrote:
| With the eye-raping callout (dark background -> white background
| switch) half-way through the article on wanting an email address
| (three callouts within the article in total), I'm shocked you
| didn't finish the job and put a big fucking modal popup smack dab
| in the middle as I was scrolling and ask once more.
| stevewodil wrote:
| Personally I find the call to actions rather tasteful on that
| site
| ganoushoreilly wrote:
| You seem bitter, which startup was yours?
| ozten wrote:
| It looks like TheMelt is down to 7 grilled cheese stores.
|
| https://www.themelt.com/locations
| phendrenad2 wrote:
| Ah yes The Melt Index. You can track silicon valley startup
| activity by how many tech workers are grabbing a quick grilled
| cheese sandwich while their code compiles.
| bsder wrote:
| To be fair, Covid is a nuclear bomb dropped on the entire
| restaurant sector.
|
| However:
|
| 1) Putting a grilled cheese sandwich restaurant in
| _ferociously_ expensive real estate known for upscale, health-
| conscious consumers can 't be smart (Irvine Spectrum Center?--
| LOL)
|
| 2) The food just wasn't that good. Sorry. They deserve to go
| out of business.
| Natsu wrote:
| Why do they need 7 locations? They should downsize to one
| location with an army of toaster-drones.
|
| Just make some specially-designed plates with a QR code target
| printed on them and the drones won't even need to land, they
| can just drop the food right on your plate after toasting the
| sandwich into a more aerodynamic shape...
| johncoogan wrote:
| TheMelt wasn't in Y Combinator, but it is an interesting story.
| ryanSrich wrote:
| What's the story?
| marcins wrote:
| I found this article: https://www.wired.com/story/how-the-
| trendiest-grilled-cheese...
| traek wrote:
| Did they go through YC? I can't find anything online about
| that, but I had no clue they raised $10M from Sequoia.
| Surprising.
| AndrewKemendo wrote:
| "The Trump administration's trade war with China resulted in a
| failed funding round led by a Chinese investor, which put the
| company in dire straits financially. "
|
| Trump is a convenient scapegoat here but in no way related to why
| they failed. Meta was headed to guardianship not long after the
| Meta2 was released.
|
| Overall Meta was just a poor experience with basically zero
| traction. They changed their hardware approach from the Meta1 to
| the 2 and it created a completely different experience while on
| the side the Hololens was blowing everyone out of the water and
| they weren't in any position to compete. Add to that the complete
| collapse of Magic Leap and the bubble burst for AR this round.
|
| Reinforcing again - Augmented Reality is probably the hardest
| market/technology to succeed or even just stay alive in.
| rdw wrote:
| Many startups are on their deathbed before finally succeeding.
| A famous example is Fred Smith, FedEx founder, gambling the
| company's last $5k, in order to come up with $24k for a
| deadline[1]. Had the cards come up differently, or a political
| wind had made gambling illegal, FedEx would have failed, and
| someone would have been able to say that logistics was "a hard
| market to succeed or even just stay alive in", and even be
| correct! The casino (or lack thereof) would have been a
| "convenient scapegoat". But it doesn't change the fact that
| having the chance to have these kinds of lucky turnarounds seem
| to play a pivotal role in a lot of success stories.
|
| [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/fedex-saved-from-
| bankruptcy-...
| 7twelve wrote:
| I have this question on my mind and if someone could explain this
| sincerely I would be very grateful.
|
| Time after time, YC startups seem to engage in practices which
| are unethical or dark or downright scammy. Be it Homejoy, uBiome,
| or many others. They seem to employ aggresive marketing tactics.
| They work under assumption that "law does not apply to us".
| Although this is true for ultra rich people, why regular seed
| funded do it? Is growth focus this much necessary to the to do
| outright fraud or in engage in shady tactics? They are willing to
| kill other people's business and livelihood for their growth. I
| would call this "preying tactics"
|
| Paul is very successful person and I read about him a lot. Why
| companies going through YC do this? Or is this just Business-as-
| usual (BAU) in Americas? Kill or be killed?
|
| Thanks for responding!
| twmahna wrote:
| Worth noting that the proximate cause of death is often times
| largely uninformative as to why the startup actually failed.
|
| Most failed startups fit into the following timeline: was burning
| more money than it was making => failed at raising more money =>
| did a round of layoffs / cost cuts to get economics under control
| => couldn't right the ship and shut down / did a fire sale or
| acquihire
|
| But, the above timeline doesn't teach you much about why the
| company really failed. The real answer almost always involves a
| multitude of contributing factors, and requires intimate
| knowledge of the startup's business.
|
| For the most part, the only reliable source for this type of
| information is one of the founders, board members, or (sometimes
| but not always) c-level execs. And, even then, they have to be
| willing to be vulnerable (which is very rare).
|
| If I could give some advice to Failory, it would be to think
| about how you can incentivize founders to share their stories. As
| it stands, they have little to gain and potentially a lot to lose
| (e.g. being labeled one of YC's "biggest failures")
| dcolkitt wrote:
| > But, the above timeline doesn't teach you much about why the
| company really failed.
|
| I for one would like to see this table with the founders'
| average email response times.
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19375483
| wtvanhest wrote:
| Probably be much more informative to talk to non-c-level
| employees who do not have an incentive to modify the story.
| new_realist wrote:
| Most startups fail. I don't think most founders have the acumen
| to really know the full story of their own failure.
| gibolt wrote:
| There is a difference between knowing the difference and
| admitting it.
|
| When you run a business from start to scale, you likely know
| the main failure point, and it is probably a few simple
| variables.
| sjtindell wrote:
| As a relative outsider, I would hope being labeled as one of
| the biggest failures would be a mark of experience among a set
| that claims or claimed to uphold the "fail fast" mentality and
| treats failure like the learning experience it is.
| ZephyrBlu wrote:
| "fail fast" refers to experiments, not the whole damn
| company.
| majormajor wrote:
| A new company is almost by definition an experiment.
| ericlevine wrote:
| Quick note: you got the pronoun wrong for the founder of The
| Buttermilk Company when referencing her Medium post.
| ryanSrich wrote:
| This list feels wrong and incomplete. The startups at the end are
| completely random. If you included the full list of failed YC
| startups regardless of funding it would be hundreds deep. I don't
| understand what I just read.
| Alupis wrote:
| How's Y Combinator doing these days?
|
| Many smaller base hits, a few home runs, or striking out? I don't
| follow the VC world much.
| pbiggar wrote:
| Missing Airware - $112M raised.
|
| (https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/14/airware-shuts-down/)
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