[HN Gopher] CC Hound: A curated library of free music for conten...
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       CC Hound: A curated library of free music for content creators
        
       Author : aabergkvist
       Score  : 179 points
       Date   : 2020-10-11 14:07 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (cchound.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (cchound.com)
        
       | l00sed wrote:
       | Lovely! Was thinking about making some stuff in Fruity loops for
       | tutorial video background tracks, but this is much easier! I'd
       | recommend swapping the hamburger menu on the left with a
       | filter/funnel icon, the double hamburger is a little weird.
        
         | imhoguy wrote:
         | Make sure it is not too loud! Also matching music taste of
         | audience is not an easy task. Most of the time I prefer only
         | tutor's voice and/or natural workplace ambient sounds
         | (including keyboard). This one makes it to perfection
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsDtlB4OSrs
        
       | philipkiely wrote:
       | This is great! It would be nice to be able to filter by license
       | type. By my understanding, there are many projects where music
       | licensed under CC BY-SA would not be usable.
        
         | Minor49er wrote:
         | Seconding this. I love the simplicity of the site, but the way
         | the links work for the results, I would expect that clicking on
         | the license type would filter by that license rather than bring
         | me to the license itself. It would be cool if those links acted
         | like a filter, but were also accompanied by something like a
         | question mark or info button that would bring me to the
         | definition in case I needed it.
        
           | aabergkvist wrote:
           | Good idea. Gonna invest some time into writing an index of
           | the different types instead and then having those on the
           | category page for it. Was afraid of legal ramifications, if
           | something was incorrect, hence the link to the CC site.
        
       | tomerbd wrote:
       | I see license is CC do you have an example in your website how do
       | we must provide attribution?
        
       | merricksb wrote:
       | For the curious, this appeared as a Show HN in 2018:
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16884979
        
       | edw wrote:
       | When I think of royalty free music for "creators," my mind
       | instantly goes to the sort of cliched, bombastic audio that is
       | used to score "epic b-roll" that serves no purpose in so many
       | YouTube videos. The world needs less of this, not more.
        
       | Hoasi wrote:
       | It's great as long as creators do this voluntarily. In an ideal
       | world, you'd hire someone to compose music for a particular
       | project.
        
       | jancborchardt wrote:
       | Really nice! Since Unsplash is mentioned in the About page, I
       | hope it doesn't go the same way with a strange non-CC license at
       | some point. (Also ideally sticking to just Attribution and Share-
       | Alike as now. :)
       | 
       | I tried out the feed at /feed but it seems to be empty - is there
       | a way to get updates of new additions?
        
         | aabergkvist wrote:
         | I missed that, what did they go from the do whatever the f*ck
         | you want license?
         | 
         | But, no. The licensing will be up to the artist, always.
         | 
         | What would be the preferred way? Twitter? RSS?
        
           | ironmagma wrote:
           | The WTF license is an antipattern really. All it does is push
           | away anyone who has serious use cases for your work, because
           | of the risk that nothing in that license will (likely) hold
           | up in court. MIT carries basically the exact same provisions
           | as WTF, so just use that.
        
           | jancborchardt wrote:
           | It used to be CC0 on Unsplash but some time ago they moved
           | from that to a custom license with some special restrictons,
           | which makes it impossible to use in other Creative Commons
           | work: https://unsplash.com/license This also happened to a
           | lot of other similar photo sites unfortunately.
           | 
           | Preferred for the feed would be RSS I'd say, but maybe
           | Twitter is good on top for promo.
           | 
           | Thank you!
        
         | wodenokoto wrote:
         | While I too think everything would be easier if everything was
         | CC-something licensed, I actually think the Unsplash license is
         | extremely fair.
         | 
         | The license is basically: use pictures for anything you want
         | except for a competing service. You decide if you want to
         | attribute source.
         | 
         | For stock photos on websites and in PPP and reports, I can
         | hardly imagine anything better than Unsplash.
        
       | royosherove wrote:
       | Where is the music being sourced from? As a music creator, how
       | can I add my music to be visible here? Another question (which
       | contradicts my first question): Aren't you helping to create
       | another "race to the bottom" where free music always wins over
       | paid?
        
         | dylz wrote:
         | People that won't pay for music licencing probably won't be
         | paying for music licencing in the first place..
        
       | fermienrico wrote:
       | What does HN think of free content like audio clips and samples,
       | stock photography, etc? I think it is different than free
       | software where folks are contributing as a community and can
       | sometimes thrive as a business by providing support. IMO free
       | "hard" content such as this is destroying a lot of small content
       | creators that used to earn a living but are now forced to abandon
       | their professions. I fear it will create a bimodal distribution -
       | top notch large houses (Getty Images, for e.g.) and free
       | distribution sites (Unsplash) and nothing in the middle.
       | 
       | I fear a society that is used to free stuff all the time.
        
         | dbuder wrote:
         | There is too much duplication, some of those people are now
         | free to create something of more value and those who have been
         | held back from creating content are now are to make it more
         | easily and with less friction.
        
         | ISL wrote:
         | "You wasted $150,000 on an education you coulda got for $1.50
         | in late fees at the public library." -- Will Hunting
         | 
         | And yet people still pay to go to college. It is okay.
         | 
         | Yes, the distribution of CC and GPL work products at negligible
         | cost _does_ cut into the revenue streams of existing business
         | models. However, there will always be something to do for
         | others that is both engaging and adds value to their lives.
         | Furthermore, Mozart hasn 't put modern music out of business.
         | 
         | Unsplash absolutely threatens existing business models, but
         | Unsplash and derivatives aren't going away. One must adapt.
         | Furthermore, CC-BY-SA licensing of high-quality content may
         | even threaten the likes of Getty in the long run. GNU/Linux/BSD
         | clearly compete with once-dominant Microsoft.
         | 
         | The alternative is to force people to charge for something of
         | value they wish to give, gratis, to the world.
        
           | cblconfederate wrote:
           | > The alternative is to force people to charge for something
           | of value they wish to give, gratis, to the world.
           | 
           | I 'm not sure they wish, as much as they have no option to
           | monetize it or do something with it
        
             | ISL wrote:
             | One can always offer a service at any price; the trick is
             | finding an agreeable buyer.
             | 
             | I would love to sell my photographs at a price that would
             | allow me to do so full-time. Alas, there are a lot of other
             | people who would love to do the same. Some of them are
             | willing to charge less than presently seems sustainable for
             | me to do. We adapt, or we're bummed out all the time.
        
               | cblconfederate wrote:
               | often there is just no mechanism to facilitate the trade,
               | or someone else is hoarding all the benefits.
               | 
               | Videos created with this music will end up in social
               | media sites which will make tons of money out of them.
               | Yet the creators have no way to earn a part of it.
        
               | ISL wrote:
               | If you are not okay with that outcome as a creator, don't
               | use that license :).
               | 
               | If you use their work and wish to compensate creators for
               | their work, the very nature of CC-BY means that you know
               | who to contact.
        
         | cblconfederate wrote:
         | I agree. This is no longer the 2000s, big tech should start
         | paying people for providing content. It's too hard to make
         | people pay for digital copies however (and it doesn;t make sens
         | for ephemeral content) , so creators should start demanding pay
         | for their free content that appears on social /subscription /
         | ad-supported sites.
        
       | squarefoot wrote:
       | Good indeed, however I wish there was a way to filter out by
       | source. Of all tunes I tried so far, all those coming from
       | Reddit, mostly if not all from the same author/uploader, sound
       | like the worst possible elevator music with added drums played on
       | a 20 years old General Midi presets-only expander. Definitely
       | some interesting stuff among the others, however.
        
         | aabergkvist wrote:
         | Fixing this!
        
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