[HN Gopher] Snap! 6 is here, and it's all about scale
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Snap! 6 is here, and it's all about scale
Author : rutenspitz
Score : 49 points
Date : 2020-10-14 21:17 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (snap.berkeley.edu)
(TXT) w3m dump (snap.berkeley.edu)
| DonHopkins wrote:
| Here is another keynote address about Snap! that Jens Monig was
| invited to give recently:
|
| Keynote by Jens Monig "The Music Comes Out Of The Piano. Learning
| With Computers & From Computers" during ECTELFI20 - the joint
| online conference of the 15th European Conference on Technology-
| Enhanced Learning (EC-TEL20) and the 18th Annual Conference of
| the Educational Technologies SIG of the German Informatics
| Society.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_x5zsuu5jY
| xiaomai wrote:
| I taught a high-school Intro to CS course last year with the
| TEALs program (https://tealsk12.org). I was very unenthusiastic
| when I heard that the first semester was taught using Snap, but I
| was wrong. Snap is a pretty awesome way to introduce someone to
| programming (much more powerful and reliable than other block-
| based programming environments I've tinkered with like the Kano
| kit).
|
| The one really terrible thing about the current iteration of Snap
| (that I think would be trivial to solve?) is that you have to
| remember to save your work. I don't think that's a normal thing
| for people to think about on the web in this day and age, and I
| have seen many students (and my own children) lose large amounts
| of work due to this. It's extremely discouraging.
|
| Other than that though, the snap language/environment is quite
| nice.
| macspoofing wrote:
| It looks cool. It reminds me of old-school Flash programming -
| which also introduced a generation of kids programming in
| general, because you could make cool games and animations.
| DonHopkins wrote:
| Jens Monig and Brian Harvey both received a National Technology
| Leadership Summit (NTLS) Educational Technology Leadership Award
| for their impact on educational technology over the course of a
| lifetime, for their work on Snap!
|
| https://ntls.info/ntls-educational-leadership-award/brian-ha...
|
| >[...] Snap! is a remarkable technological achievement. However,
| like Logo, its greatest achievement is arguably the educational
| philosophy that it draws upon and supports, and the associated
| community drawn together by this philosophy. In a very real
| sense, the Snap! community embodies the spirit of the early Logo
| community, extending it for the modern world. The NTLS
| Educational Technology Leadership Award, awarded to Brian Harvey
| and Jens Moenig, is presented in recognition of that
| accomplishment.
| DonHopkins wrote:
| Here's Jens Monig's opening keynote address to Snap!Con20, in
| which he discusses HyperBlocks, which add APL-like vector and
| matrix processing to Snap!
|
| His delight in programming is so contagious even with social
| distancing and teleconferencing!
|
| Snap!Con20 Keynote - Hyperblocks
|
| Opening keynote address of the Snap! Conference 2020, UC
| Berkeley, about APL-style hyper-operators (working on scalars,
| vectors, matrices and multi-dimensional data) and the fun to be
| had applying them to media of all kinds
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1qR4vTAw4w&ab_channel=JensM...
| yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
| That is some seriously impressive improvement on performance and
| memory use; I'd be interested to know what exactly they did to do
| that (ex. did they realize they could rearrange something to do
| the same thing with less work, or is this just a lot of little
| optimizations adding up?).
|
| Also cool, if a little weird to me, to see full-blown map-reduce
| and APL-like features; I feel like that moves away from the
| "beginner's language" that I think of when I think of Snap, and
| builds at least the ability to take it a lot further. Which,
| honestly, is just really cool:)
| DonHopkins wrote:
| "Snap! is Scheme disguised as Scratch." -Brian Harvey
| agumonkey wrote:
| S3
|
| btw do people transition out from snap! ? do they go emacs ?
| vi ? <big>IDE ?
| jansan wrote:
| Can anyone tell be in one or two sentences how this relates to
| Scratch? Is is an alternative, is it used by Scratch, is it
| something different although it looks very similar?
| ladberg wrote:
| It's based off Scratch's UI but doesn't share any code. It has
| a lot more features that delve more into computer science
| instead of scripting like in Scratch. I believe it was also
| available in-browser before Scratch was, but I'm not sure.
| chewxy wrote:
| The description of Hyperblocks leaves much to be desired. Are
| they just shape-generic blocks?
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