[HN Gopher] Uber Drivers Sue Company over Pressure to Support Pr... ___________________________________________________________________ Uber Drivers Sue Company over Pressure to Support Prop 22 Author : ra7 Score : 54 points Date : 2020-10-22 22:25 UTC (34 minutes ago) (HTM) web link (news.bloomberglaw.com) (TXT) w3m dump (news.bloomberglaw.com) | megaman821 wrote: | I guess you can sue for anything, but does saying Uber could | theoretically use your answers against you in the future hold any | water? It is going to be very hard to prove actual harm here. | laser wrote: | Probably more about the visibility than the outcome--an attempt | to drive a narrative that Uber et al are corrupt regulatory- | capturing entities that are manipulating the public through a | suit like this could help the NO on Prop 22 cause. The trouble | is, although that is substantially true, California legislators | have broken things so badly with AB-5 that the public has no | choice but to vote YES on Prop 22. | jkaplowitz wrote: | That's a false dichotomy. Addressing any perceived problems | with the law through less extreme means than Prop 22 would be | another option. | | As one example of how Prop 22 is extreme, it imposes an | absurdly high 7/8 supermajority requirement to make | legslative changes "consistent" with the proposition and a | new initiative vote to make inconsistent changes. Entrenching | self-interested corporate-written legislation to that extreme | is awful. | whimsicalism wrote: | I'm not voting for any loosening of labor laws that requires | a 7/8th majority to change. | | And, honestly, what Uber has been doing with its platform | recently has been really worrying me. I get a push | notification almost every single day now asking me to vote | Yes on Prop 22. I'm worried for what the future holds if this | sort of thing is permitted because of Citizens United. | vinay427 wrote: | The Uber Eats order I placed recently (in CA) felt more | like a political campaign than a restaurant delivery | service. It didn't exactly drive me further towards a Yes, | no pun intended. | reso wrote: | I can't believe the 7/8ths rule isn't a bigger story than | it is. Insanely undemocratic. I wouldn't vote for _any | bill_ that included that stipulation. | mpd wrote: | I am Jack's complete lack of surprise. | | It's not like 22 ever had 100% driver support. | smabie wrote: | " And because drivers could reasonably believe they will be | deactivated from the platform or denied favorable ride matches if | they don't express explicit support, the data collected about | driver support and used for promotion is skewed and misleading." | | I'm not sure it's reasonable believe that drivers would get | kicked off the platform for answering "Ok". In fact, I think if | you asked almost anyone, they would say that's a totally | unreasonable belief. | | Sounds like a lawyer is trawling for settlement fees, not that | any driver actually wanted to do this. | whimsicalism wrote: | > I'm not sure it's reasonable believe that drivers would get | kicked off the platform for answering "Ok". In fact, I think if | you asked almost anyone, they would say that's a totally | unreasonable belief. | | You've clearly never been involved in any sort of union push if | you think that employers are so above something like this. Even | if they wouldn't do something like this, there are often behind | the scenes conversations about how to create the perception | that they would - because that is equally as effective. | | In that context, repeatedly pinging drivers asking if they | support the legislation (with _yes_ in bold /highlighted) could | definitely be a calculated move to create that environment. | [deleted] | aqme28 wrote: | I highly disagree. Uber's platform is heavily gamified for | drivers to encourage the driver behaviors that Uber wants. It | is reasonable to expect them to gamify this piece too. | tolbish wrote: | Would it be reasonable to believe that drivers would be | rewarded for expressing support for Prop 22? ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2020-10-22 23:00 UTC)