[HN Gopher] Mobilizon - A free, federated tool for events and gr...
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Mobilizon - A free, federated tool for events and groups
Author : staz
Score : 424 points
Date : 2020-10-27 11:05 UTC (11 hours ago)
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| Spearchucker wrote:
| Wow that's pretty ambitious, and pretty relevant for me right
| now. I build models, and so used to frequent forums to post to
| build threads detailing what I'd done with photos, sometimes a
| Word doc, video, and always some plain text.
|
| Problem with the forums is that they're dated. It's easy enough
| to find old content because search is usually pretty ok. Who owns
| content is still not a solved thing though. A forum in Germany
| insists you upload your IP to their servers so that your photos
| don't disappear over time. Other forums let me host my hosts on
| my own web site with a link.
|
| Facebook of course is godawful. Everybody is there, so everybody
| posts there. Unforunately you cannot find old stuff you know is
| there. Photos aren't annotated, comments aren't searcheable,
| stuff just disappears into a rabbit hole. Here today, gone
| tomorrow. Facebook's content is ephemeral, so it's groups are the
| worst possible forum replacement.
|
| And from what I can tell (I can't start my own group to assess
| features) Mobilizon doesn't add anything to improve on what
| Facebook already does.
|
| What's needed is an organic heirarchical taxonomy where you're
| persented with a top-level list of options. Say for instance
| manufacturers. You pick one, and are given a list of models. Pick
| one of those and you see all models in the repository for that
| make/model. Lastly (in my contrived example) you might choose
| your favourite model maker to further narrow that list, or a
| date, country or whatever.
|
| This is not hard to build (modellers are pretty hardcore about
| what they build, and so would not hesitate to add the meta data
| needed to drive this), and I've been toying with a usable UI for
| it for some time. Maybe I should post up a proof of concept
| somewhere...
| jtbayly wrote:
| This use case seems orthogonal at best to the idea of
| Mobilizon.
| glenstein wrote:
| Yeah, I had the same reaction. Was that parent comment posted
| in the right thread? Mobilizon is about events and that
| comment seems to have nothing to do with the link.
| Spearchucker wrote:
| Arguably. Forums have been supplanted by Facebook groups.
| Mobilizon seeks to do the same to Facebook. I can't create a
| group so I cannot definitively say anything about it. You may
| very well be right.
| jtbayly wrote:
| I haven't read much, but it seemed to me to be about
| events, much more than groups.
| glenstein wrote:
| Mobilizon is intended to put events on the activitypub
| protocol. In that sense, it's a replacement for a slice of
| Facebook. I wouldn't say it's a replacement for all of
| Facebook.
| williamtwild wrote:
| Why not just start a blog?
| Spearchucker wrote:
| Because it's unweidly. Too verbose. A post is often no more
| than a sentence or less with a photo.Each comment on an entry
| would have to be another blog post with it's own
| attached/linked media. Also tag clouds lack structure. It's
| difficult to search across blogs (which would delinieate
| users). You could shoehorn it in, but the blog solution is
| nothing close to ideal.
| wizzwizz4 wrote:
| https://write.as/ makes blogs a little easier, and the
| IndieWeb easier still, but it's not quite good enough yet.
| aaronax wrote:
| Just yesterday I was thinking about some sort of social network
| where every piece of content is required to link to at least
| one Wikidata item, OpenStreetMap node, etc. With the right
| tooling this would get you the "organic hierarchical taxonomy".
|
| I thought it would be an interesting way to make sure the
| conversations are actually ABOUT something. And it would
| hopefully encourage contributions to those sorts of open data
| projects.
| Deukhoofd wrote:
| I really enjoy what Framasoft is trying to do, making the
| internet decentralized again. I truly hope they're successful in
| their endeavours!
| glenstein wrote:
| Strongly agree! I love everything framasoft is doing. It's mana
| for the internet.
|
| It's also a great way to create a sense of perspective for how
| pro-social (or not) the frightful five are. You would never see
| Microsoft, or Apple, or Google etc bother to support open
| protocols or work to flush them out so that events, photos,
| tweeting, and all the major social activities are put on a
| foundation of open and interoperable protocols that anyone can
| use. They certainly could have moved in that direction if they
| wanted to, but they just haven't wanted to. And while I
| appreciate for framasoft for what they're doing at face value,
| on an entirely different level I appreciate the contrast
| between their projects and the projects of the F5.
| kaushikt wrote:
| Meetup has done a standup job with events. I would love to see
| them do more with groups too. It's annoying to join the meetup
| "group" and then join their adjacent Slack or Telegram group.
| mxuribe wrote:
| Even though i've never been a fan of centralized services, i
| never hated meetup.com that much...Or, rather, i never hated
| the concept of what meetup.com represents (or could represent).
| But over the years, i really have always disliked the overall
| experience. And as years pass by, i seem to dislike the
| meetup.com experience more and more.
| Wowfunhappy wrote:
| Some of these illustrations are really great! I'd probably use
| them as desktop wallpapers if I could get higher resolution
| versions.
| Pouhiou wrote:
| The sources (krita files) and hi res jpeg files will soon be
| published online here
| https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/static6/sources&page=other
|
| All those illustrations are CC-By David Revoy :
| https://www.davidrevoy.com/article800/mobilizon
| Wowfunhappy wrote:
| Whoa, lots of excellent artwork! Thank you!
| m12k wrote:
| The floating islands one made me want to go re-play Bastion
| amelius wrote:
| You can use Waifu2x to upscale artwork:
|
| Online demo: http://waifu2x.udp.jp/
|
| Repo: https://github.com/nagadomi/waifu2x
|
| Reddit discussion:
| https://www.reddit.com/r/VRchat/comments/bkw543/tutorial_how...
| jorams wrote:
| The full versions of these illustrations have high resolutions:
|
| https://framablog.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/2020-10-06-...
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| https://framablog.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/2020-10-08-...
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| https://framablog.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/2020-10-06-...
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| https://framablog.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/2020-10-06-...
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| https://framablog.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/2020-10-06-...
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| (Not sure if these are linked anywhere, but I just chopped the
| image size out of the URL.)
| sk2020 wrote:
| They also seem to be very similar to Mastodon. They may be
| inspired from that.
| Seirdy wrote:
| Mobilizon appears to be a Fediverse server just like
| Mastodon, Pleroma, and others.
| zimpenfish wrote:
| Got an install up and running on Arch but it required a fair
| amount of divergence from the installation instructions. (I'll
| try and whip up a list of what was different later.)
| skratlo wrote:
| It's great to see alternatives popping up everywhere, keep it
| coming
| meetups323 wrote:
| I'm about 2 hours into setting up an Mobilizon instance for
| outdoor socially distant activities, but running into problems
| [1] and at the end of the day federation isn't important to me
| and I'd prefer the learning opportunity and flexibility of
| building my own [2].
|
| Curious if any HNers in the PNW region might use such a service
| to pod up for outdoor socially distant activities (hiking,
| wilderness cleanup, kayaking, perhaps camping/backpacking/biking,
| etc). I moved here just pre-COVID, and quarantine, my introverted
| nature, lack of FB, and tendency to enjoy things that don't
| involve lots of people being around has left me without as much
| of a do-things-with group as I might like.
|
| [1] I'm 2+ hours into provisioning/setup, and unfortunately the
| yarn install keeps hanging/crashing on the $5 digital ocean
| droplet I provisioned for this, and at the end of the day I'd
| prefer to have full knowledge and control over the stack.
| Additionally, for me federation isn't important, all I want is an
| open architecture that respects privacy.
|
| [2] To keep things simple for myself and users, it wouldn't be
| federated, instead there would be a single domain I manage that
| hosts the events. The architecture would of course be open
| source, and my goal would be to make the entire project be
| available as some sort of { docker image / kubernetes cluster /
| DO App / heroku thing / something } such that anyone can easily
| launch their own instance without needing to dedicate 2+ hours to
| the process, and more importantly any user can find activities to
| join in on without needing to set up an account/provide
| email/etc.
| bhattisatish wrote:
| Well, this could be because you are running out of memory,
| which results in the yarn build process getting killed. The
| simplest solution is to enable "swap" in your instance by using
| the following commands: dd if=/dev/zero
| of=/swapfile bs=1M count=1024 sudo chown root:root
| /swapfile chmod 600 /swapfile mkswap /swapfile
| swapon /swapfile add /etc/fstab /swapfile
| swap swap defaults 0 0
| #echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness sudo sysctl
| vm.swappiness=10 add to /etc/sysctl.conf
| vm.swappiness=10
|
| All I am doing is creating a swap file of 1GB and enabling it
| with a not so aggressive swappinness on the kernel.
| prophesi wrote:
| Once the docker installation is documented, it should take
| considerably less time to self-host.
|
| This is for `yarn build`, but perhaps it applies to `yarn
| install` as well: there's a note in the documentation that says
| compiling the front-end requires 2gb of RAM. You'll need to set
| it to use only 1gb RAM to accommodate the $5 droplet's specs
| via `NODE_BUILD_MEMORY=1024 yarn build`
|
| As for the technology & stack, most of the code is from
| Pleroma, essentially a lightweight Elixir/Phoenix version of
| Mastodon, with Vue for the frontend. If there's any part of the
| architecture that's closed, the project would highly appreciate
| raising an issue, as it wishes to be a fully libre project.
| ivarv wrote:
| Where in the PNW are you located? Given the border closure it's
| no longer feasible to organize international meetups.
| jonstaab wrote:
| Is it just me, or has "federated" come to mean just mean multi-
| tenant SaaS (maybe with some features that cross boundaries)
| that's also open source?
| mxuribe wrote:
| With all due respect, i think that might just be you. Email has
| operated as federated for so many years, and while there are
| certainly large providers like gmail, etc....There are also
| plenty of non-multi-tenant, non-SaaS instances of email servers
| (and associated mailboxes).
| corobo wrote:
| Does ActivityPub not count as federated for you?
|
| https://docs.joinmobilizon.org/contribute/activity_pub/
| detaro wrote:
| Just you. Federation still means communication/collaboration
| between independently run servers.
| zanecraw wrote:
| looks pretty dope!
| amelius wrote:
| Nice. But I'm curious how they deal with the network effect.
| I.e., how do they motivate event organizers to post their events
| on this platform too? And how do I convince my friends to RSVP on
| this platform so I can see where they are going?
| olah_1 wrote:
| If users have to sign up (create an account) in the traditional
| flow, I think this is dead in the water :/
| amelius wrote:
| Perhaps some scraper could help with cross-posting of events.
|
| The tool can be named Facebook-dl :)
| berkes wrote:
| Mastodon, using the same underlying ActivityPub has several
| "cross posting" solutions mostly to- and fro twitter. As
| does pixelfed (the instagram for the fediverse) to and from
| instagram.
|
| I can only imagine that there will be some way to cross-
| post to facebook, meetup or EventBrite, somewhere down the
| line. Even if done by external parties. Especially facebook
| because a lot of your audience may be there already. And to
| many organizers "getting enough people to attend" is
| probably more important than being fully decentralised and
| privacy friendly.
| hypersoar wrote:
| You don't need an account to RSVP to events; you can
| participate anonymously. That makes sense, since this is
| designed with activists in mind.
| riffic wrote:
| > how do they motivate event organizers to post their events on
| this platform too
|
| In theory, the event organizers would have their own instance
| and they would post the events directly onto that. This would
| make sense for organizations with an existing technology
| infrastructure.
| [deleted]
| laurent123456 wrote:
| Looks like they self-host their source code too:
| https://framagit.org/framasoft/mobilizon/ It appears to be
| developed in some language called "Euphoria"?? That's such a
| strange choice and is going to seriously limit contributions from
| other developers.
| wishinghand wrote:
| Looks like Elixir to me. Not hugely mainstream but I think it's
| shed its niche status. Which folders have Euphoria in them?
| Jtsummers wrote:
| They based their code in part on Pleroma per something else I
| read, which is written in Elixir.
| yorwba wrote:
| Yeah, their development guide lists Elixir (and Erlang),
| PostgreSQL and NodeJS as dependencies. https://docs.joinmobil
| izon.org/contribute/development/#witho...
| Seirdy wrote:
| Mobilizon is written in Elixir because it is based on Pleroma,
| a Mastodon-compatible/Mastodon-alternative server for the
| Fediverse. Elixir isn't one of the most popular langs out
| there, but it is far from being a "niche" language.
|
| Okay that was a lot of words. Maybe I should explain for those
| less familiar:
|
| Users on the Fediverse can interact without being aware of the
| fact that their servers are running completely different
| software. While Fediverse members such as Mastodon take
| inspiration from Twitter, others have different focuses:
| Peertube is YouTube inspired, Pixelfed is Instagram-inspired,
| and some like Pleroma are kinda doing their own thing imo.
|
| I personally prefer Pleroma to Mastodon, as evidenced from my
| bio; it's lightweight, easier to set up, and has a great
| variety of first- and third-party front-ends (including a
| lightly-modified version of the Mastodon front-end and a
| Gopher-accessible one).
|
| It appears that Mobilizon devs wanted to create a new Fediverse
| server with a different focus: something that warranted writing
| a back-end based on Pleroma instead of just creating a new
| Pleroma front-end. Basing off Pleroma was a good choice because
| unlike Mastodon, Pleroma is lightweight enough to run off a
| singe-board computer like a Raspberry Pi. Being written in
| Elixir definitely has a lot to do with this.
| Vosporos wrote:
| What is this "Euphoria" you are talking about?
| bovermyer wrote:
| This is a great endeavor and I hope it succeeds.
|
| I only have one question - does it allow for private events?
| severine wrote:
| _does it allow for private events?_
|
| Seems so: https://docs.joinmobilizon.org/use/events/create-
| events/#who...
| HourglassFR wrote:
| Yes, if I understand their FAQ correctly
|
| https://joinmobilizon.org/en/faq/
| mikeruhl wrote:
| Thank you so much for this. I have wanted something like this
| since getting off Facebook.
| forgotmypw17 wrote:
| What an amazing looking project!
|
| I think this type of "someone in the group runs an instance" type
| deal will become more and more frequent.
|
| Each family/community will have a "tech guy" or two who manages
| this type of thing, maybe on an offline device, and everyone
| chips in a couple satoshi per year for the hardware and network.
|
| If you store your data in something easy like text files, you can
| even have several redundant devices, all for the price of a
| couple raspberry pis.
|
| Imagine a raspberry pi with a terabyte of storage attached.
| Certainly that's enough for a "Familybook" of your closest
| people.
|
| This is the type of device I am developing for today. I'm writing
| the simplest HTML possible, always no-JS friendly, using the most
| common interfaces supported by the most common web servers, and
| completely portable with just a zip file of text files. :)
| Quanttek wrote:
| This looks fantastic and I like the focus! I am not sure if it's
| so great to have the getting-started info spread out over
| multiple site - joinmobilizon.org and mobilizon.org - though
| solarkraft wrote:
| That looks amazing! From its look it seems a lot like it'd be a
| replacement for Meetup/Eventbrite, which is something I've been
| waiting for for a while.
|
| Framasoft is great!
| suyash wrote:
| yes more of a meetup.com alternative than anything. However the
| hard part is how do I migrate my large meetup community to a
| new platform.
| monksy wrote:
| Lots of advanced warning, lots of emails, lots of inperson
| reminders, etc.
|
| For me, I ended up sending multiple emails and killing the
| group. (I'm not paying meetup "half price" for an essentially
| useless service. (Ok, the only thing it holds is membership
| data.. but they expect you to pay for zoom to hold your
| meetups [which those don't work])
| cnr wrote:
| JIT news for polish women (and men) protesting against stripping
| away abortion rights. The more independent communication apps the
| better :)
| Nextgrid wrote:
| I feel like this misses the point.
|
| People dislike Facebook and other centralized platforms not
| because they're centralized per-se, but because the user
| experience is terrible (due to mismatched incentives - these
| platforms make money off ads, so their only objective is to make
| you engage with the ads as much as possible).
|
| The solution is a platform that doesn't have these mismatched
| incentives (either paid for, ran by donations, etc) but that
| otherwise has the user experience of the mainsteam platforms.
|
| This reads like a tech demo where the tech and decentralization
| is the selling point, but the truth is, the masses don't
| know/care about that and rightfully so. The same applies to
| Mastodon and similar projects.
| grey_earthling wrote:
| From the FAQ:
|
| > We do not want to reproduce the toxicity of Facebook.
| Surveillance capitalism uses the mechanisms of the attention
| economy to lock up our time, capture our behaviour and impose
| advertising on us.
|
| > Mobilizon does not depend on such a business model: this is
| an opportunity to try to do better, by doing things
| differently.
|
| => https://joinmobilizon.org/en/faq#facebook
| HourglassFR wrote:
| I don't think the point is to replace Facebook&Co though. It is
| specifically a tool developped for political activists.
| Everybody can use it of course, it is free software. Given that
| context the decentralization feature is most definitively a
| crucial feature.
|
| https://joinmobilizon.org/en/faq/#facebook
|
| And even more broadly, the whole point of Framasoft is to offer
| tools to use the internet in a decentralized way. This is not
| limited to this particular tool, they have many other project.
| All offering an inferior user experience than the existing
| solutions by the usual FAANG giants of course but again the
| point is decentralization and freedom.
| candu wrote:
| Exactly this. From one viewpoint, https://pad.riseup.net/ is
| just a worse version of Google Docs, and most people will
| never use it. From another, it's a vital service for
| preserving the anonymity and security of activists, and
| comparisons to Google Docs are moot.
|
| In other words, these tools quite effectively solve the pain
| of a small but clearly-defined group of people - turns out
| this approach is useful beyond the startup world!
| Ericson2314 wrote:
| > I feel like this misses the point.
|
| > The solution is a platform that doesn't have these mismatched
| incentives (either paid for, ran by donations, etc) but that
| otherwise has the user experience of the mainsteam platforms.
|
| The argument by people in favor of this stuff is that federated
| technologies _best_ avoid and resist those mismatched
| incentives, because any centralized gatekeeper, not matter how
| benevolently founded, always has the temptation to ignore it 's
| charter and become a rentier.
|
| Think about the recent .org debacle, or even the Mondragon
| Corporation employing non-member labor.
| ravenstine wrote:
| > The solution is a platform that doesn't have these mismatched
| incentives (either paid for, ran by donations, etc) but that
| otherwise has the user experience of the mainsteam platforms.
|
| Isn't it kind of inevitable that those incentives manifest
| themselves? A company can run a centralized platform, do a good
| job of it, then get bought out for millions(if not billions) by
| a large corporation and redesigned to maximize ad revenue and
| the egos of those looking for greater job titles. This isn't
| exactly unheard of. Decentralization would supposedly section
| this kind of thing off if it even happens at all.
|
| You're right that the average person doesn't care about
| decentralization, let alone understand it. That's fine. Before
| Facebook, people used forums supported by vBulletin, and those
| were effectively "decentralized" in the sense that they weren't
| all owned by the same entity. The only difference was that
| there wasn't sharing of data between 2 or more web forums, like
| there could be with something that supports ActivityPub or the
| like.
| aklemm wrote:
| Step one is dev buy-in, then people start federating it and
| THEY help realize the UX needs. /imo
| dagurp wrote:
| One of the main things keeping me on Facebook is fear of
| missing out on events. This gives people who are not on
| Facebook a chance to stay in the loop.
| kemenaran wrote:
| It seems Mobilizon invested a great deal in the usability of
| this tool.
|
| (Not specifically the visual design, but the ease of use and
| the matching of user needs).
|
| I've seen projects advertising decentralization as the main
| selling point. Mobilizon seems to also push strong on the user
| experience, and I'm glad they do.
| deanclatworthy wrote:
| > People dislike Facebook and other centralized platforms not
| because they're centralized per-se, but because the user
| experience is terrible
|
| I'm not sure I agree here. My anecdote is that the experience
| of Facebook events is superb. People are prompted to fill in
| pretty good basic information, can discuss arrangements on the
| "wall", and I'm reminded about my attendance before the event
| multiple times. The invites also come into a place where I
| already spend a fair bit of time. I don't know anyone who makes
| events outside of Facebook within my circle of friends.
|
| > This reads like a tech demo where the tech and
| decentralization is the selling point, but the truth is, the
| masses don't know/care about that and rightfully so. The same
| applies to Mastodon and similar projects.
|
| I agree with this. Until the mainstream narrative realises that
| giving away all of our personal info is a faux pas, engaging
| with platforms like this is limited to activists and those who
| have an incentive for privacy.
| DarkWiiPlayer wrote:
| Reading through the page I just couldn't shake off the feeling
| that the illustrations remind me a lot of the Pepper and Carrot
| comic.
|
| I scrolled down to the footer almost expecting to find the name
| David Revoy there and indeed it was :D
| agumonkey wrote:
| What else is there in this field ?
| jarofgreen wrote:
| If you mean the field of people organising events on open
| source decentralised software, I think there is:
|
| * https://framagit.org/les/gancio
|
| * https://github.com/lowercasename/gathio
|
| * https://github.com/GetTogetherComm/GetTogether
|
| * https://github.com/hometown-fork/hometown Mastodon fork with
| basic event stuff
|
| (This is not to take away from Mobilizon - congrats to them!)
| Seirdy wrote:
| If you mean other federated FOSS alternatives to mainstream
| social media, I gave a brief overview in another comment [0].
| You can get a bird's-eye view at https://fediverse.party/ or a
| more detailed look at https://fediverse.network/. Many of these
| services use the Activitypub protocol to allow them to inter-
| operate. Two examples with excellent interop are Pleroma and
| Mastodon; as a Pleroma user, I can't even tell the difference
| between a Pleroma and Mastodon user until I open another user's
| profile on their own instance.
|
| [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24911239
| eeZah7Ux wrote:
| Meetup.com - which is closed, centralized, and shockingly
| expensive.
| monksy wrote:
| $180 per year.
| berkes wrote:
| With field you mean "organising events"? If so, Meetup.com,
| Eventbrite and Facebook are probably the most famous.
| agumonkey wrote:
| actually I wasn't sure of the whole surface of mobilizon .. I
| thought it did more, thanks
| throwawaysea wrote:
| What is Mobilizon's policy on deplatforming, censorship, etc. How
| will they protect against owner/employee bias? I ask this because
| Mastodon's founders also pitched a federated tool to the world
| but then turned out to be very much the same authoritarian pro-
| censorship actor as the centralized platform we'd all like to get
| away from.
| GoblinSlayer wrote:
| That's the difference: they aren't centralized.
| Jtsummers wrote:
| How is Mastodon censored? Specific instances or is the general
| community actively censoring content across instances?
| throwawaysea wrote:
| My understanding is that the project founder and/or leads are
| pursuing a campaign to pressure all instances to not peer
| with instances on their political blacklist, and adding those
| who refuse to their peering demands to the blacklist. In
| effect the "fediverse" that is claimed as a benefit is in
| name only. I'm not sure what benefit the project offers
| anymore over centralized platforms since it is becoming the
| same thing as a result.
| mattbk1 wrote:
| Each instance is free to federate or not with every other
| instance. You have every right to post what you want, but
| there's no requirement for other people to listen.
| Seirdy wrote:
| There exist a number of self-described free speech
| extremist instances, and moderated instances that only
| blacklist spammers like bot servers. There also exist
| instances that will blacklist servers with high levels of
| hate speech. You can pick or create an instance that meets
| your wants and needs, but other instances can exercise
| their freedom of association and choose not to federate
| with you.
|
| Things on the fediverse are also less black-and-white than
| you're portraying them. Some instances will prevent one
| instance's posts from showing up in the default public
| timeline of the whole known network, but will still
| federate with them; users will still be able to follow or
| be followed by members of the filtered instance normally.
|
| Users on Mastodon can also migrate their account to other
| Mastodon instances and keep their followers, but migrating
| from Mastodon to Pleroma is a bit lacking; fortunately, you
| can still put a redirect on your profile for future
| followers.
|
| TLDR: no, I don't think the fediverse is just like
| centralized social media.
| Hitton wrote:
| mozilizon.org page says:
|
| >try Mobilizon
|
| >Create a fake account and fake events on demo.mobilizon.org
|
| But for some reason this fake account requires quite real email
| address. No thanks.
| minerjoe wrote:
| Their little tour recommends using a throwaway email.
| jarofgreen wrote:
| I'm very pleased to see this launch, but have one feature request
| - and I'm posting it here because it's a request I would make to
| anyone doing event software.
|
| Please have open feeds in iCal format for your site, including
| one that lets people get all public data.
|
| This will make the data on your website so much more reusable and
| useful.
|
| And definetly iCal - it's so popular, and most personal calendars
| can even import it directly.
|
| Yes, it's odd text format is a pain, but there are libraries in
| almost every language you can use.
|
| Mobilizon has iCal export for a single event, but not for all
| public events on the site. (I did have a Mastodon chat with them
| about this but can't find their replies now)
|
| But definitely congrats to Framasoft for this :-)
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICalendar
| glenstein wrote:
| I hadn't thought of this, but this is a great suggestion and I
| hope your suggestion gets implemented!
| WC3w6pXxgGd wrote:
| This is created by "activists" who want to organize public
| protests and other disruptive events. ALWAYS be skeptical of
| products/services created by people like this.
|
| Remember: if they, in any way, suspect you of wrongthink, all the
| data you thought was yours suddenly becomes public and you will
| be hunted.
| linspace wrote:
| This got me surprised:
|
| "Mobilizon is designed so that you can follow the news of a
| group, but not of an individual : it is impossible to follow a
| single profile. In Mobilizon, profiles have no << wall >>, <<
| thread >> or << story >> : only groups can publish posts. The
| goal is to get rid of the self-promotional reflexes where we
| stage our lives to be the person at the center of our followers.
| With Mobilizon, it is not the ego but the collective that
| counts."""
|
| I understand the motivation but it leaves me with the strange
| sensation of exchanging one kind of centralization with another.
| It doesn't click with me.
| malandrew wrote:
| Seeing that a significant portion of activists are "activists"
| for purely reasons feeding their own ego and self worth, I see
| this as a net win for weeding such people out. That said, if
| this does catch on, you can probably expect such people to
| start signing their content even if the system specifically
| doesn't support it.
| fwsgonzo wrote:
| Considering how vapid the current lineup of social networking
| is, I'm willing to see how it turns out.
|
| There are some other great features too, but I didn't see
| anything about video-conferencing, which would be a killer
| feature.
| GoblinSlayer wrote:
| There's (was?) https://framatalk.org/ which is jitsi meet
| https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet
| GoblinSlayer wrote:
| As I understand, it's a forum. Some forums allow you to see
| posts made by certain user, just mobilizon doesn't. Like
| ycombinator is not your personal blog, but a group, to which
| you can contribute.
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