[HN Gopher] Trinity Desktop Environment R14.0.9 Release Notes
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       Trinity Desktop Environment R14.0.9 Release Notes
        
       Author : pantalaimon
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2020-11-01 20:27 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | jsiepkes wrote:
       | Super cool people maintain and expand things like KDE 3 and Gnome
       | 2 (Trinity, Mate)!
       | 
       | However personally I don't feel the need anymore. Gnome 3 and KDE
       | 4 are both quite usable. Which is a stark contrast from when
       | Gnome 3 and KDE 4 came out. They were both nothing more then
       | glorified beta's. The first release of Gnome 3 was basically like
       | the first Windows 10 release with the Metro UI; Totally unusable.
       | Not that surprising since both Gnome 3 and Win 10 were created on
       | a "tablet first" (or at least "tablet prominent") mindset.
        
         | kick wrote:
         | Did you mean KDE Plasma 5? Plasma 4 was comparatively short-
         | lived (and arguably, far from perfect).
        
         | makapuf wrote:
         | I think you're talking about win8, win10 was a return to saner
         | defaults on desktop (ui-wise, let's not talk about privacy):
         | start menu, by example.
        
         | oofabz wrote:
         | I use Mate and I think it's misleading to characterize it as a
         | reheated Gnome 2. That's how it started, but the project has
         | come a long way since then. Mate now uses GTK3 instead of GTK2.
         | It supports GPU-accelerated compositing and Hi-DPI displays.
         | Mate is a well-maintained modern desktop environment, not a
         | historical curiosity.
        
           | notankies wrote:
           | It also plays nicely with tiling WMs; you can replace the
           | default with i3 or Awesome or whatever and enjoy mate-
           | settingsd and having a nice GTK3 panel that looks nice, but
           | also tiling windows.
        
         | RedShift1 wrote:
         | Meh, depends on what you define as usable. KDE 3 ran fluently
         | on my 2010 HP EliteBook 8540w but KDE 4 runs like a dog and you
         | get nothing extra for it.
        
         | zokier wrote:
         | > Not that surprising since both Gnome 3 and Win 10 were
         | created on a "tablet first" (or at least "tablet prominent")
         | mindset.
         | 
         | For Gnome I hear this claim often made (mostly by people who
         | don't like Gnome), but is that actually backed by facts?
         | 
         | Unlike Microsoft or Canonical (with their Unity), Redhat never
         | seemed to have any particular mobile/touch aspirations, and so
         | far I haven't heard any mobile adaptations of Gnome anywhere,
         | like we have Plasma Mobile from the KDE camp.
        
       | rayrag wrote:
       | That's the ugliest GUI I have seen in a while. 1995 was 25 years
       | ago.
       | 
       | https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/images/4/44/TDE-screen1.png
        
         | Gualdrapo wrote:
         | That could be 2005 KDE actually.
         | 
         | Things like that make me thing this can be arguably the biggest
         | waste of effort of all FOSS development, all because "fear of
         | the new" - Trying to keep the huge monstrosity of Qt3 which EOL
         | was more than 10-15 years ago, the whole DE that was built on
         | it and all of their apps, even developing new ones... Just for
         | the appeal of few people with the nostalgia for that kind of
         | GUIs. One could argue KDE5 is as stable or even more than KDE3
         | ever was, and less buggy - not even mentioning the ability to
         | replicate that interface with a few clicks and some fiddling.
         | 
         | But whatever makes them happy.
        
       | Darmody wrote:
       | I see the Plasma team decided to keep the old ugly designs. Look
       | at that Trinity Control Center window. More than a decade after
       | and everything still feels the same.
        
         | ubercow13 wrote:
         | Doesn't really look the same to me, except that it uses the
         | standard desktop widgets such as buttons, radio buttons, etc.
        
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