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Mind-Melting Decision Proves a Dialer Can Never Be Too Old to Be an
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Author : guerrilla
Score : 44 points
Date : 2020-11-03 20:19 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (tcpaworld.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (tcpaworld.com)
| juliend2 wrote:
| I love the Hacker News-targetted preface:
| Editor's Note: Welcome Hackers! Not sure how Hacker News found
| this article but I see a ton of folks headed in from that
| website, which I presume is some sort of aggregator for news
| articles of interest to folks that like to hack stuff. Feel free
| to have a look around the website-check out our cool podcast-and
| tell any friends that might like this nerdy stuff. But don't
| hack anything please. Thanks.
| sharkmerry wrote:
| the thought of the day references hacker news as well
|
| Eric's Thought of the Day Hacker News >> Google News
|
| At least when it comes to driving traffic to tcpaworld.com.
| Eesh.
| annoyingnoob wrote:
| > But don't hack anything please. Thanks.
|
| For that definition of 'hacker' I'm not sure that asking nicely
| is helpful. I wouldn't expect many folks here to be interested
| in 'hacking' that site.
| thaumasiotes wrote:
| > Mort finished his motion to dismiss with a claim that the TCPA
| only applies to telemarketing harassment, not good-ole-fashioned
| harassment harassment. No dice. The Court looks at the words of
| the statute and cannot find the "I just want to abuse people out
| of spite" TCPA exemption.
|
| Very relevant to the argument that all modern cell phones (as
| well as things like decidedly outdated handsets with speed dial)
| are in fact automatic dialing systems, and therefore everyone who
| places a call or sends a message using their cell phone is in
| violation of the law.
|
| Doesn't matter how you use the device, just that the device meets
| the definition.
| SpaceManNabs wrote:
| I am a little confused by the title. It is certainly an
| entertaining claim and argument by Mort, but it seems that the
| court decided quite reasonably (and the author says so?).
| Topgamer7 wrote:
| I certainly hope I never tweak the screw that is loose in
| someones head to harass me on a daily basis like this nutjob.
| yongjik wrote:
| > Mort finished his motion to dismiss with a claim that the TCPA
| only applies to telemarketing harassment, not good-ole-fashioned
| harassment harassment.
|
| Ah, the good old-fashioned "I wasn't taking advantage of him, I
| was just being an asshole for being an asshole's sake!" defense.
| How refreshing.
| throwaway_pdp09 wrote:
| Is there some kind of template to make such a 1990's website
| https://buckysgasstationsucks.com/ with it's bizarro little
| animations and clipart? It's so very anachronistic (yet strangely
| readable I must add). I don't think I've seen anything like it
| since ages past.
| ear7h wrote:
| If anyone is curious about the why: Mort
| Sullivan's Personal Opinion That McDonald's Is Located In
| The Area, And Would You Like To Eat Food With Ambient
| Air In The Area Of Surrounding Properties, And We Will
| Putting Up Signs & Asbestos Tape Around McDonald's On The
| Sullivan Trust Property, Where The Manager Called The
| Police On Mort Sullivan For Cutting The Grass On The
| Sullivan Trust Property, And Everyone Can See The Picture
| Below Showing Area!
|
| If I understand this correctly, the McDonalds manager called the
| cops on Mort and then Mort fired back by filing a suit regarding
| lead and asbestos on the area. I'm not sure how Bucky got
| involved though.
| paxswill wrote:
| I think reading from the bottom will give you the chronological
| order. Also, skipping over phrases like, "Mort Sullivan's
| Personal Opinion That..." helps a lot (that phrase, along with
| registering himself as an LLC is giving me strong sovcit
| vibes).
|
| As to what actually started this, it looks like there was a
| landfill with alleged hazmat in it, but there wasn't a lawsuit
| filed in time (under the Clean Water Act? Because there's an
| underground stream that flows into the Missouri River?) to make
| the original polluters clean it up. Mort believes that because
| Bucky's, the McDonalds, and other companies (see the expanding
| list of real estate developers on his list) are now developing
| the area (and digging basements into the landfill) the timer
| for a Clean Water Act lawsuit has restarted. He cares as his
| property is next to the former landfill.
| jcranmer wrote:
| That's generally my gist as well, although I'm not certain on
| the actual existence of the landfill, let alone what may or
| may not have been dumped into it.
|
| It's really hard to understand, because this is clearly a
| vexatious litigant who seems to believe that the law is a set
| of magic incantations to let him do what he wants (not unlike
| the sovereign citizen bullcrap you allude to). And the fact
| that he's dragging anyone remotely connected to the location
| into it makes it even harder.
| cbanek wrote:
| This is why I don't mess with crazy.
| thrill wrote:
| The website that this blog post discusses would have made MySpace
| proud during its heyday.
| [deleted]
| visviva wrote:
| I'm glad I was so confounded by the title that I had to click -
| that was a fun read.
| korse wrote:
| Can someone point me to the court documents?
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