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Resident Selection: Do We Discriminate Against the Obese and
Unattractive?
Author : abhisuri97
Score : 23 points
Date : 2020-11-12 22:17 UTC (44 minutes ago)
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| ineedasername wrote:
| My impression from similar studies is that we tend to
| discriminate against people who don't look like us, not
| necessarily based (just) on perceived negative characteristics.
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| So, I wouldn't be surprised if obese/unattractive people still
| discriminates against those perceived negative characteristics,
| but I also wouldn't be surprised if that discrimination was to a
| lower degree than when the person doing the discrimination isn't
| obese/unattractive.
| ponker wrote:
| Everyone everywhere discriminates against the obese and
| unattractive.
| wavefunction wrote:
| Everyone? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_fetishism
| viraptor wrote:
| Sexual attraction and discrimination can coexist. See a large
| number of secretly gay politicians fighting against gay
| rights.
| newfeatureok wrote:
| Would you really want a doctor who is obese?
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| As for unattractive, yes that's bad.
| viraptor wrote:
| You're saying that like being obese is has a trivial fix people
| just don't want to apply. I'd totally see a doctor who is
| obese. Or a doctor who smokes. Or many others. In terms of
| dealing with obesity they may actually have more insight and
| know more resources than people not affected by this issue.
|
| There's a big difference between behaviours applied to self and
| knowledge applied at work.
| aviraldg wrote:
| Obesity carries no signal about their competence as a doctor,
| so yes.
| omarhaneef wrote:
| Thank goodness this doesn't happen in finance.
| 1996 wrote:
| Previous discussion about the same effect in the legal system:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24044409
|
| Personally, I find it very surprising most hackers have such a
| disdain for physical beauty, given the huge ROI for every $
| invested - reportedly about 1,000x for Elon Musk personal worth.
|
| Still, only a few CEO seems to have taken action to maximize
| their appearance, and mostly against their premature baldness. It
| is kind of taboo - while studying before an interview is not.
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| There are many scientific studies documenting all that, but we
| ignore them. For an example of all the known variables, check for
| ex table 1 of the following for "Zero-order Pearson's
| correlations between facial appearance and health, with the
| corresponding p-values and sample sizes":
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| https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5290736/
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| If you want more example for a given variable, for example the
| effect of adiposity (we know it's quadratic), read one of the
| original papers:
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| https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6308207/
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| All this is well known now, as the first study was about 22 years
| ago:
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| Perrett, D. I., Lee, K. J., Penton-Voak, I., Rowland, D.,
| Yoshikawa, S., Burt, D. M., ... Akamatsu, S. (1998). Effects of
| sexual dimorphism on facial attractiveness. Nature, 394(6696),
| 884-887. doi:10.1038/29772
|
| So why do we keep ignoring it, while focusing on other signals
| like which search engine (or operating systen) you use?
| wbraun wrote:
| Reading through the paper, I think the real buried lead here is
| that the reviewers discriminated in favor of selecting black and
| hispanic applicants, with a larger effect size than anything
| analyzed but test scores and attractive vs unattractive (not
| neutral vs unattractive).
|
| At least your appearance and test scores are mutable
| characteristics.
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