[HN Gopher] Librem 5 Mass Production Phone Has Begun Shipping
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Librem 5 Mass Production Phone Has Begun Shipping
Author : nunodonato
Score : 91 points
Date : 2020-11-18 21:03 UTC (1 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (puri.sm)
| mamon wrote:
| Possibly stupid question, but I'm really concerned, considering
| buying Librem 5 myself: what do we really know about Purism, and
| how do we know they are not NSA honeypot?
| pengaru wrote:
| There's cause for concern re: the company/leadership/quality,
| but nothing remotely related to the NSA.
|
| https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Zlatan-T...
|
| http://techrights.org/2019/10/31/purism-false-promises/
| dleslie wrote:
| I've been trying to use the PinePhone as a daily driver and it
| simply isn't there yet: camera is slow to the point of unusable
| and sometimes it hard crashes when making calls.
|
| Here's hoping that Purism has done a good job of cleaning up some
| of the issues in Phosh.
| TACIXAT wrote:
| I hope I get to update my address before they ship it. I've moved
| a solid 3 times since backing this.
| tristan957 wrote:
| You should probably reach out to support to be sure.
| Rooster61 wrote:
| Been waiting to see this. Still holding off on buying one though
| until I see better battery numbers and a few more actual phones
| in customer hands. Very excited about this product, despite a lot
| of the bad press it had earlier on (of which some seemed
| justified considering the timeframe).
|
| Anybody got their hands on one and can speak for the current
| state of usability?
| ianmobbs wrote:
| I've been following Purism for a month or so, and I love the idea
| of the Librem 5, but is the phone really going to be worth
| $2,000?
| Rooster61 wrote:
| Only the US-produced version is $2000, and that's an accurate
| price considering the difficulty of manufacturing an entire
| phone platform domestically.
|
| The regular version is $799.
| SulfurHexaFluri wrote:
| You aren't buying a phone when you buy the librem 5. You are
| funding the development of open source phones so there will
| eventually be a v2 and v3 which are better value for money when
| the hard work was done in v1.
| eptcyka wrote:
| Worth is relative. It won't be packed full of 2000$ worth of
| Android or Apple flagship hardware. But it will cost around
| 2000$ to deliver this specific product in the manner it's being
| delivered.
| poita66 wrote:
| The made-in-USA version is $2,000, but the made-in-China
| version is $800, so it's only $2,000 if you want your phone to
| be made in the USA.
| ianmobbs wrote:
| Ah missed that, thanks
| amelius wrote:
| Curious, since this is open source: is it possible to try out the
| software on a desktop machine first?
| seba_dos1 wrote:
| Sure; all the stuff in the repos is even compiled for amd64 as
| well. Check out the QEMU images -
| https://developer.puri.sm/Librem5/Development_Environment/Bo...
|
| If you really want you could even install PureOS amber-phone
| straight onto your PC. See https://puri.sm/posts/what-is-
| mobile-pureos/ for more info.
| OneLeggedCat wrote:
| This still won't even do MMS, and battery life is terrible.
| Nonetheless I truly hope it succeeds.
| Mediterraneo10 wrote:
| Lack of MMS is a shortcoming that really affects only North
| America. MMS is not widely used elsewhere. Really, getting
| Whatsapp to work through an Android emulation layer like Anbox
| is the higher priority for much of the world now.
| teekert wrote:
| I believe there are Matrix/Element - WhatsApp bridges. They
| require some setup and its not for everyone but for me it
| would be an option.
| teekert wrote:
| Yeah about that MMS, I just got the strangest phone call from
| the 90s... Guess what?!
| seba_dos1 wrote:
| Not out-of-box in a user friendly way yet, but hackers gonna
| hack:
| https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/chatty/-/issues/30#note_12542...
| myself248 wrote:
| Wooooo!
|
| I'm in this batch and I was just looking at a Pinephone story
| thinking I should check in on Purism.
|
| This is quite an ambitious project and I'm expecting it to be a
| bit rough around the edges. But if I can actually ditch the old
| Samsung and be purely open-source, that's so, so worth it.
| mikewave wrote:
| This looks really cool, it's nice to see an open-source product
| like this come to fruition. I think it would make an excellent
| phone for people who aren't heavily invested in the app / social
| network ecosystem, or as a work phone.
|
| Does anyone know whether there's some expectation that at some
| point we'd see first-party apps for common social networks on
| PureOS? Like, are they going after it at all, or is it intended
| as a web-first play?
| LockAndLol wrote:
| What I'd like to know is how much non-USains will be paying in
| customs.
|
| I remember backing it when it cost 700$ or something, looking up
| the customs for UK and gasping. It was about 150PS. Don't know
| what it's going to be for Australia or the EU.
|
| There was also a thread not long ago about Brazil and India
| having sky-high customs that nearly doubled the price of imported
| electronic goods.
| AsyncAwait wrote:
| I backed this originally when it was supposed to ship in January
| 2019. The project had a lot to tackle, developing unique hardware
| and software with a tiny budget compared to Google/Apple.
|
| I am so glad the guys at Purism reached this point and did not
| give in to the folks who said the project would fail.
|
| Phosh, their GNOME-derived shell, is now also used by many
| distros on the PinePhone, which is exactly the spirit of free
| software I wanted to see for the smartphone when I originally
| backed this.
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