[HN Gopher] Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative ...
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       Vodka is a creative coding environment for creative writers (LISP)
        
       Author : tartoran
       Score  : 52 points
       Date   : 2020-11-19 18:47 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (github.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (github.com)
        
       | markmiro wrote:
       | This looks like a text-first coding environment
       | 
       | I like the idea of building websites and writing blog posts by
       | starting with text and slowly taking different parts of it and
       | adding dynamic functionality
       | 
       | Maybe I want to embed the current date somewhere
       | 
       | Maybe I want to embed a chart
       | 
       | It's not exactly a new idea, but doing things with LISP might
       | provide some useful invariants
       | 
       | Hoping I understand this correctly
        
       | Naac wrote:
       | When I first read the description I thought it was going to be
       | something like processing[0] but in lisp. Turns out this is
       | something completely different.
       | 
       | [0] https://processing.org/
        
       | kossTKR wrote:
       | There is no explanation of what this is on the page. The one
       | sentence description is meaningless to newcomers.
       | 
       | What is creative coding?
       | 
       | What does it have to do with creative writing?
       | 
       | You need a better explanation / demo.
        
         | owyn wrote:
         | _Vodka is a Lisp, but instead of parentheses, it uses boxes.
         | The yellow boxes around the words you typed before? Those are
         | the equivalent of parentheses in Lisp._
         | 
         | It's a lisp environment! But I agree there should probably be a
         | demo or some kind of interactive example.
        
         | thih9 wrote:
         | > What is creative coding?
         | 
         | The project's readme links to a wikipedia page that defines the
         | term and provides examples.
         | 
         | "Creative coding is a type of computer programming in which the
         | goal is to create something expressive instead of something
         | functional."
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_coding
        
           | ericlewis wrote:
           | That definition irks me a bit because technically the
           | creativity they have done is functional and it just makes me
           | think they're talking about something even stranger.
        
         | dang wrote:
         | Ok, we'll change the URL above, from
         | https://github.com/eeeeaaii/vodka to the intro page.
        
         | dkarl wrote:
         | There's a Getting Started page linked in the README that shows
         | what the software does. Not sure it makes much of a case for it
         | being useful.
         | 
         | https://github.com/eeeeaaii/vodka/blob/main/GETTINGSTARTED.m...
        
       | kleer001 wrote:
       | Uhhh, what problem does this solve?
        
       | marcodiego wrote:
       | Title makes me think of the Ballmer peak: https://xkcd.com/323/
        
         | ballmerspeak wrote:
         | It had to have started there right? But I think this could also
         | be valuable before hitting the peak.
         | 
         | But then again, unraveling a drunkenly produced chunk of LISP
         | doesn't exactly sound fun either.
        
       | tsherr wrote:
       | I'm not sure what the point is? Am I coding? Writing a novel?
       | 
       | I can get the first letter of a word? Why do I want to, as a
       | creative writer?
        
       | badcircle wrote:
       | This looks really interesting! What sort of outputs do you
       | generally use it for?
        
       | suyash wrote:
       | demo link / video?
        
         | tartoran wrote:
         | This will probably give you some idea. I'm going to set it up
         | give it a go.
         | 
         | https://github.com/eeeeaaii/vodka/blob/main/GETTINGSTARTED.m...
        
           | dash2 wrote:
           | That tells people the things you can do, but not why you
           | might want to do them. I think most people, especially
           | writers, won't know what a creative coding environment is or
           | why it might be right for them.
        
             | tartoran wrote:
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_coding
             | 
             | Some things are made to experiment with, simply to play
             | with. They may lead to different projects. I actually tried
             | to get this going but I'm stuck after cloning the repo,
             | there are some folders missing and the node server crashes.
             | If anyone is able to get this running I'd appreciate if
             | they told me how. I'm missing the /sounds folder
        
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