[HN Gopher] A new jailbreak for a new era
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A new jailbreak for a new era
Author : wallflower
Score : 93 points
Date : 2020-11-23 13:18 UTC (9 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (theodyssey.dev)
(TXT) w3m dump (theodyssey.dev)
| daniel_iversen wrote:
| Not sure about others but it's been many years since I felt the
| need to jailbreak my iOS devices. One of the reasons is that
| there's just no "killer apps" available for me by jailbreaking
| anymore, iOS generally does 100% of what I want it to do, and the
| way I like it to do it.
| somehnguy wrote:
| Same boat here. From the iPhone 3G to the 6 I was always
| jailbroken, including even the tethered jailbreaks.
|
| Then at some point I just stopped caring. It's so much effort
| to keep up with this stuff (same reason I don't use Android
| devices, with all the alternative firmwares and such). My stock
| iOS device is about as reliable as a device can get and I'm
| relatively happy making the complete freedom tradeoff. I'm not
| sure how bad of a thing that is however.
|
| Occasionally I'll want to do something like spoof my location
| and get annoyed that it's not easy. But I just...don't care 99%
| of the time.
| mattwad wrote:
| Same here, but with Android. Since at least a few major
| versions back!
| olah_1 wrote:
| I've never used jailbreak on an iOS device. But I've been staying
| on iOS 13 to avoid the contact tracing. Phone is old anyway so I
| might try this.
| skinnymuch wrote:
| iOS 13 or 14 have nothing to do with having you use contact
| tracing in any way you don't enable yourself. I don't get this.
| If you don't trust them for this. Why are you using their phone
| at all.
| mshroyer wrote:
| > I've been staying on iOS 13 to avoid the contact tracing
|
| Huh? You know it's an opt-in feature, right?
| shhsshs wrote:
| And that it is done using an ostensibly
| secure/traceless/anonymous algorithm so I'm not sure why it
| would matter.
| conradev wrote:
| Yes, it is functionally equivalent to having Bluetooth
| enabled.
|
| When Bluetooth is on, your iPhone broadcasts itself with a
| rotating random MAC address (a feature now called Bluetooth
| LE Privacy). It rotates at a fixed interval, something like
| every 5 minutes.
|
| With contact tracing enabled, your phone broadcasts another
| random identifier, and that identifier rotates at the same
| interval as your MAC address. The random identifier is
| actually cyphertext, and the key to decrypt it is stored on
| your phone.
|
| I think it should have been turned on by default if
| Bluetooth is turned on by default, but people would have
| complained very loudly.
| gruez wrote:
| >When Bluetooth is on, your iPhone broadcasts itself with
| a rotating random MAC address (a feature now called
| Bluetooth LE Privacy). It rotates at a fixed interval,
| something like every 5 minutes.
|
| Isn't this only when the iPhone is "discoverable", which
| is pretty much never the case unless you have bluetooth
| settings open?
| prh8 wrote:
| Well a lot of people care more about absolutism for
| "privacy" more than pragmatism. Quote marks since just
| having a cell phone is already sharing more than those
| anonymous tokens.
| skinnymuch wrote:
| Not just a cell phone. But having a cell phone from the
| very company they fear is doing illegitimate things.
| generalizations wrote:
| I kinda wonder whether it will continue to be opt-in. If
| COVID sticks around for another year, it may be that a harder
| stance is taken on monitoring transmission.
| prh8 wrote:
| Not only is the exposure notification opt-in, but you also need
| to specifically download an app from your locality.
|
| Upgrading to iOS 14 does not magically turn it on.
| joosters wrote:
| All that effort on designing a pretty looking website, and yet
| virtually no effort spent on making the install instructions
| friendly and readable!
| fabiensanglard wrote:
| I am always thankful to see something open sourced.
|
| But as someone interested in understanding how it works without
| a lot of time on my hands, I would have loved a high level
| explanation to support a "genuine windows of interest".
|
| As is, I will not be able to extract much knowledge from it.
| ihuman wrote:
| If you scroll down to the "download" section, it tells you how
| to install it
| z5h wrote:
| I clearly hang out here, and I'm not clear on exactly what
| Odyssey is or why someone might want it.
| xeroaura wrote:
| Looks to be iOS jailbreak for any device on a version of iOS
| 13.
|
| Some quick searching indicates previous most popular tool
| unc0ver only went up to iOS 13.5 (vs newest 13.7 that this tool
| jailbreaks).
|
| Edit: Actually looks like another tool called checkra1n already
| covers those iOS versions, but this one covers more devices.
| skinnymuch wrote:
| Yes, especially many newer devices outside 2020 ones that
| never came with iOS 13. Covering 2017-2019 devices is huge.
|
| I'm going to be getting an iPhone 11 Pro deal from T-Mobile,
| my carrier, now. After I re-confirm the in store device is on
| 13.7 or earlier.
| grishka wrote:
| checkra1n exploits an unpatchable bootloader vulnerability.
| Wowfunhappy wrote:
| I haven't been following Jailbreak news for a while, because I'm
| very happy with my Jailbroken iOS 12 setup and feel no desire to
| upgrade anything--but, I can't help but recognize the primary
| developers on this project.
|
| ...I don't even remember what all the drama was about--as I
| recall, it was exceedingly stupid--but it was nasty enough to
| basically drive Saurik and much of the rest of the old guard away
| from the community for good. I really, really hope all of that is
| behind us this time around. The community needs everyone's
| talent.
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