[HN Gopher] JFK in Trauma Room One: A Witness Remembers
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JFK in Trauma Room One: A Witness Remembers
Author : Hooke
Score : 61 points
Date : 2020-11-24 18:35 UTC (1 days ago)
(HTM) web link (www.medpagetoday.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.medpagetoday.com)
| danuker wrote:
| > You didn't talk publicly about assisting in Trauma Room One
| until you appeared in the 1993 book JFK: Breaking the Silence.
| How come?
|
| > Because I was afraid. There were so many people who were
| associated with the assassination who had died, sometimes by
| questionable means.
|
| Could have something to do with the speech from April 27, 1961:
|
| > For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and
| ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for
| expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of
| invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation
| instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies
| by day.
|
| I will do my best to expose them. I am not an American, but I am
| against communists and fascists as Americans were back then. Stay
| vigilant! Vote with your ideals.
| pjkundert wrote:
| You might be about to have your wish fulfilled. Be careful what
| you wish for...
| markus_zhang wrote:
| I really hope somehow this gets solved and someone (even long
| dead) gets convicted.
| stainforth wrote:
| People did both vote and elect JFK by their ideals. He was then
| assassinated.
| markus_zhang wrote:
| > Because I was afraid. There were so many people who were
| associated with the assassination who had died, sometimes by
| questionable means.
|
| Well, I guess we will never get into the bottom of the story.
| jjt-yn_t wrote:
| A long thread follows that article, for those at first
| disinclined to read.
| subsubzero wrote:
| Interestingly, the Surgeon(Robert McClelland ) who tried to save
| both JFk and Oswald's life died a few months ago, his obituary in
| the economist is an interesting read:
|
| > The neck wound might have been entry or exit, but the back of
| the head clearly showed a huge exit wound; so the first bullet
| probably came from the back, and the second from the front, from
| different gunmen.
|
| also from the same article:
|
| >Several other aspects went on troubling him. There was no post-
| mortem in Texas, against state law; the body went at once to
| Bethesda. He was shown autopsy pictures at the National Archives
| in which the exit wound was covered up.
|
| Article: https://beta.trimread.com/articles/52767
| mav3rick wrote:
| As per your first quote the 2nd one could be entry or exit. So
| why is it claimed that there was a 2nd gunman ?
| markus_zhang wrote:
| >so the first bullet probably came from the back, and the
| second from the front, from different gunmen.
| simlevesque wrote:
| Yeah, that one regret must feel heavy sometimes. He could have
| changed history. It's absolutely not his fault and he did
| everything right, but... what if ?
| kneel wrote:
| Who are all these experts on exit/entrance wounds shot from 200
| yards away? I did a deep dive into this conspiracy a while back
| and couldn't find anything of substance.
| scrozier wrote:
| Trauma Room One still exists. At least it did several years ago.
| I went to Parkland for a CT scan (my wife is a doctor there) and
| in this rather bustling, fairly mundane room, there was a modest
| plaque, identifying the room as Trauma Room One. Kind of an
| interesting feeling to be there.
|
| A few years ago, Parkland built a huge new hospital across the
| street, and I doubt that that room is still in use. But I could
| be wrong,
| ortusdux wrote:
| Makes me think of this West Wing opener:
| https://youtu.be/fAgZVVn_rYg?t=195
| reitzensteinm wrote:
| The way they didn't realize Bartlet was shot until he started
| to bleed from the mouth was copied straight from what
| happened to Reagan.
|
| During the West Wing, Sorkin was a master at dramatizing real
| life when it worked, or inventing plot points completely when
| that would play better.
|
| Like Christan Slater destroying his $1400 glass ash tray with
| a hammer to demonstrate that it's expensive because it's
| designed to break in to dull pieces and thereby not be
| dangerous in the heat of naval combat, justifying the cost.
| Except in real life they'd just use one made of metal.
|
| That so much of it was authentic (to a television standard)
| gave suspension of disbelief for the made up bits, and
| seasons 1-4 are consequently some of the best television ever
| made.
| Zelphyr wrote:
| Somehow, after all the rewatches over the last 20 years,
| that show still has the ability to give me goosebumps
| during scenes like that.
|
| Masterful is the only word I can think to describe The West
| Wing. Masterful writing, acting, directing, etc...
|
| It also happens to be one of the funniest shows. "WOOT
| CANAW!" "They won't let me smoke inside but you can pee in
| Leo's closet."
| asadlionpk wrote:
| Wow, that was so cool!
| CapriciousCptl wrote:
| > This was supposedly due to Dr. Tom Shires, the chief of
| surgery, popularizing the use of intravenous fluids acutely
| rather than blood transfusions.
|
| I find that comment interesting since current state of the art in
| trauma resuscitation is transfusing relatively early, based on
| solid data out of the Iraq war.
| RickJWagner wrote:
| " That's another moment that's indelibly imprinted on my brain,
| unfortunately."
|
| An amazing story. Thanks to the poster.
| lqet wrote:
| > There's something else: One my best friends growing up in
| Dallas was named Henry Zapruder. His father was Abraham Zapruder
| [the Dallas dressmaker who shot the famous film of the
| assassination.] I knew the Zapruders very well, and had been in
| their home many times.
|
| What are the odds of that. Maybe we need something like the
| Erdos-Number, but for the JFK assasination.
| mulmen wrote:
| Given the number of people involved it seems likely. It's like
| the birthday paradox.
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