[HN Gopher] Running a job board in Japan can land you in prison
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       Running a job board in Japan can land you in prison
        
       Author : bemmu
       Score  : 14 points
       Date   : 2020-11-27 05:41 UTC (2 days ago)
        
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       | samsquire wrote:
       | A job is something people need to eat. Why should you need a
       | licence to connect jobs to people?
       | 
       | The law is wrong.
        
         | TulliusCicero wrote:
         | People need food to eat; that doesn't mean that food
         | regulations are wrong. People need healthcare to remain healthy
         | instead of not dead; that doesn't mean medical licensing is
         | bad.
         | 
         | I have no idea whether these particular regulations for
         | recruiters make sense or not, but just because something is
         | fundamental to living doesn't mean regulating it is
         | automatically a bad idea.
        
         | nitwit005 wrote:
         | The law is probably a response to some sort of scam, to allow
         | them to prosecute the scammers.
        
         | mcherm wrote:
         | Perhaps.
         | 
         | In other countries -- the US for instance -- we have
         | restrictions on connecting jobs to people. We prohibit, for
         | example, job boards that are explicitly designed to favor (or
         | be exclusive to) members of one race. Even if there are a lot
         | of employers and employees who would appreciate such a service.
         | 
         | If you don't think THOSE rules are wrong, then are you REALLY
         | sure you want to criticize how Japan chooses to organize their
         | own approach to the topic? They have chosen to license the
         | people who do the connecting rather than introduce legal
         | liability for those who discriminate (and are sloppy enough
         | about it to leave enough evidence to prevail in court).
         | 
         | I'm not saying control of discrimination is the reason that
         | Japan licenses job recruitment, but I DO think that it requires
         | a more thoughtful and open-minded approach that asks more about
         | the benefits gained before dismissing out of hand the approach
         | of requiring a license.
        
         | mjevans wrote:
         | As a distinction between a communications service, and a "head
         | hunting" service, I'm at least initially optimistic about
         | regulation of professionals in this domain being a possibly
         | good thing. Like how CPAs and Lawyers and Doctors are
         | regulated. Though some of those regulations might go a bit too
         | far towards monopoly power rather than quality and protection
         | for consumers (and could thus use some market reforms).
        
         | rmrfstar wrote:
         | Unemployment rate in Japan is is 2.3% and stable.
         | 
         | The entire nation of Japan (population 100m) has half the
         | _total number_ of homeless people as the city of San Francisco
         | (population 1m).
         | 
         | Essentially all Japanese people have health insurance, while
         | 30m Americans have none and many more barely have coverage.
         | 
         | Maybe they are onto something over there?
        
       | trinovantes wrote:
       | I'm curious what's the typical salary for devs at Japanese
       | startups. I'm assuming it should at least be higher than
       | megacorps which, from what I understand, are more traditional and
       | based on years spent at the company.
       | 
       | I also wonder how much culture clash there are for foreigners
       | working at these companies e.g. how do they handle conflicts or
       | disagreements with seniority.
        
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