[HN Gopher] EmacsConf 2020 Talks
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EmacsConf 2020 Talks
Author : AlexeyBrin
Score : 250 points
Date : 2020-12-06 16:00 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| posharma wrote:
| I've been a long time emacs user and switched to vscode recently.
| Seriously, vscode is so much easier to configure and use.
| lmedinas wrote:
| Well thats the thing with Emacs, its an extremely good Tool:
| Editor, browser, file manager, git frontend, notes, calendar,
| etc.. etc... you call it! but its also extremely old and
| outdated tool.
|
| I used Emacs for years and one day i realized i had a huge
| .emacs file and spend lots of time maintaining it, that's when
| i was conviced it was not the editor for me or I was using it
| wrong. I moved to sublime, vscode and now im giving vim/neovim
| a try.
|
| As much as i liked Emacs i dont see myself using it again soon.
| Spinnaker_ wrote:
| I used vscode since 2015 and have now switched to emacs. Yes,
| vscode is easier to configure and use right away, but that's
| not always a good thing. I was fully dependent on so much
| tooling which I didn't understand in the slightest. When you're
| cranking out react apps that's probably fine.
|
| With emacs I actually need to read documentation. I need to
| have some sort of understanding of what I'm actually
| installing. It's frustrating at first, but overall has made me
| much more aware of what's going on. I've learned so much
| throughout the process and it has made me a better developer.
| JohnL4 wrote:
| I'm a heavy org-mode user. I'll also pop into emacs for comment
| formatting, macro-running, and the occasional column-based
| copy/paste. Plus an auto-numbering function I wrote when I wore
| a younger man's clothes. Plus a colorful highlight mode (which
| I wrote) + htmlize for sharing said highlights, also from my
| callow youth.
|
| Other than that, yeah, 100% VS Code for typescript and regular
| VS + ReSharper for my regular life.
|
| Oh, also, emacs for Haskell. And whatever other weird language.
| rasengan0 wrote:
| Big fan of Sacha Chua: much to learn by way of emacs,
| productivity and org life https://sachachua.com/blog/emacs/
| nahuel0x wrote:
| No talk on lsp-mode / eglot?
| jrockway wrote:
| What's there to talk about? You install it and suddenly you
| have the same programming language features that everyone else
| does, but in an editor that can actually manipulate text.
| madballster wrote:
| It's great to see there were new Emacs users and developers
| coming on board, judging by the age of some of the presenters.
| Emacs has been proclaimed dead many times, I think it has long
| future ahead of itself. Yes its aged, and dated. But also very
| powerful. And cools things can still happen (gccemacs as an
| example).
| hereisdx wrote:
| Q. Would you mind sharing your Emacs configuration files?
|
| Richard Stallman: Configuration files are personal and will not
| be shared.
|
| This cracked me up! xD
| gumby wrote:
| EMACS was developed on ITS, a multi user timesharing operating
| system with no security. I developed a complex init file (in
| TECO of course) which was a compiled module in my home
| directory.
|
| One day I changed something in an incompatible way and received
| complaints. Unbeknownst to me there was a community of people
| who linked (symlinked) directly to my init file and whose
| workflows were disrupted by my change.
| nanna wrote:
| More pugnaciously...
|
| > _Q17: You 've been a very important part of the Free Software
| movement, some argue the most important part. I very much
| appreciate that! Thank you. I think it's necessary to encourage
| more diversity within Emacs, however, that's difficult to do
| with the instances of sexual harassment that have come out. Are
| you or do you plan to work on addressing those situations and
| preventing further situations going forward?_
|
| > I will forgive them if they stop bullying.
|
| > Note from RMS: "If someone who has condemned me unjustly
| takes it back, that will make it safe for me to empathize with
| any feelings of hurt that pers might have felt as a result of
| the misunderstanding and I will be very glad to show
| compassion."
| bitwize wrote:
| Mofo got some balls on him.
|
| I'm surprised he was allowed to speak. The current practice
| for CoC enforcement at conferences is leaning toward
| preemptive: you can be banned for being considered _likely_
| to break the CoC.
| zdragnar wrote:
| That is, I think, a great shame.
| tptacek wrote:
| This has nothing whatsoever to do with Emacs and these
| ideological tangents take over threads like kudzu.
| neilv wrote:
| It can be (consider that some Emacs power-users used to do most
| things in Emacs, including email, Usenet, etc.), but this
| reminded me of something...
|
| Many years ago, some new founder I knew asked to see my
| elaborate .emacs file. I was reluctant, because it had some
| slightly sensitive info in it , as well as unreleased bits I
| might turn into packages. But he reassured me he just wanted to
| see how I'd done some things, to inform some non-Emacs thing he
| was about to build, and he'd keep it private.
|
| Sometime later, one of the developers at his startup happened
| to mention that "everyone" uses my .emacs file.
|
| Today, that person I let see my very personal .emacs has sold
| the original startup, and is CEO of a different business you've
| heard of, but I received nothing from the indiscretion. :)
| npsimons wrote:
| > (consider that some Emacs power-users used to do most
| things in Emacs, including email, Usenet, etc.)
|
| We still _do_. Consider that I have coordinates for weather
| in my .emacs, and yes, I should probably externalize that,
| but FFS, sharing my own _incredibly personalized and personal
| configuration files_ was not first on my mind when I did
| that.
|
| You want snippets, that will be useful to someone other than
| me? Fine. But there's no contradiction in arguing for
| openness in infrastructure _and_ privacy in personal affairs.
| harrygeez wrote:
| Are you swedish by any chance?
| downrightmike wrote:
| Wow, send a bill to the company and ask them to renew their
| site license for the emacs config. Or opensource what you can
| of it and remove the competitive advantage they have.
| jsilence wrote:
| That one day when my emacs config is gonna give anyone a
| competitive advantage, Sasquatch is gonna get caught on
| camera grooming a unicorn.
| oblio wrote:
| Well, it could be a competitive advantage for your own
| company, if you share it with competitors.
|
| We all know that configurable editors are a huge time
| sink ;-)
| neilv wrote:
| As much as I'm a fan of Emacs, I don't think a .emacs file
| had much to do with that startup's success. He just wanted
| to see the UX and features that were possible for a
| particular purpose, for ideas and competitive analysis. But
| I did opensource a minority of the bits. :)
| https://www.neilvandyke.org/emacs/
| lebaux wrote:
| Folks sharing conf files are the reason I was able to switch to
| linux on desktop (i3wm).
| alexott wrote:
| I simply separate user/machine specific things into separate
| files, and don't commit them to public repository
| (https://github.com/alexott/emacs-configs - it wasn't updated
| for a long time, and it needs to be rewritten to modern stuff -
| first line was written 25 years ago)... But this may allow
| sharing, and even contributions...
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| zascrash wrote:
| I would like to use emacs and org mode to organise my life. But I
| think without it being useful on mobile phone, for me is a no go.
| I will keep using Google calendar for now.
| jcynix wrote:
| You can install Termux on Android devices and use Emacs there.
| I use it on more or less read only on the smartphone and
| actively on a tablet. Both rsync with my desktop from inside
| Termux.
|
| And Orgzly has already been mentioned.
| nunodonato wrote:
| you can use it on your phone. I stored my org files in dropbox,
| and used Orgzly[0] to do the same in the phone.
|
| [0] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.orgzly
| zascrash wrote:
| I will check that. I appreciate everyone for their replies.
| Is there anything like that for iPhone?
| BoysenberryPi wrote:
| I use Orgzly for my phone.
|
| http://www.orgzly.com/
| tmalsburg2 wrote:
| Over the years I have exchanged messages and worked with many of
| the speakers at this conference, but I have never had the
| opportunity to meet any of them in real life. It is so nice to
| finally see their faces and hear their voices. Thanks, Covid, I
| suppose.
| sachac wrote:
| You might like the videos from last year's conference too,
| then! =) https://emacsconf.org/2019/talks/
| bitwize wrote:
| The talk about gaming in Emacs is particularly interesting to me,
| because I think there are possibilities here that haven't been
| adequately explored. With XELB, the X client library used by
| EXWM, it's possible for Emacs to quickly draw arbitrary geometry
| at screen resolution without a C or dynamic library extension.
| Some testing I did when I fooled around with it showed that it
| would be fast enough to use as a simple 2D game engine.
| yodsanklai wrote:
| > State of Retro Gaming in Emacs
|
| I love to see that there is still room for fun in our field.
| sjg007 wrote:
| I never used emacs beyond simple text editing. I've seen people
| do quite a lot of cool stuff with emacs though so I do want to
| start using it. Are there any good tutorials to look at? I'm
| mostly interested in the software dev pipeline.
| obilgic wrote:
| Honestly that "Emacs News Highlights" video is great for non-
| contributors or just users.
|
| https://emacsconf.org/2020/talks/01/
| submeta wrote:
| Wonderful topics. Lot of videos to watch. - Thanks to all the
| contributors.
| ssivark wrote:
| The talk by Sid Kasuvajhula is an absolutely fascinating
| presentation about extremely flexible object-oriented interfaces,
| organized in a multi-hierarchial manner -- so very nicely
| exploiting the compositional structure inherent in the content we
| operate on.
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| Epistemic mode, A scalable UI paradigm
| https://emacsconf.org/2020/talks/07/
| aoeuhtns wrote:
| Thanks for the pointer, it was very interesting! Not sure I've
| come across anything like this before.
| monroewalker wrote:
| Thanks for sharing! For anyone that's gone through these, which
| are most worth watching? I haven't made emacs a regular part of
| my work yet, but I'm always curious to see what's going on in the
| community for it.
| mark_h wrote:
| I haven't watched any myself yet, but there's a thread on
| r/emacs on just that question:
| https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/k77k6a/what_are_your...
| Kaze404 wrote:
| Wow, I had no idea this was a thing. Looks like I have a lot of
| material to go through. Thank you for posting.
| haakonhr wrote:
| I also discovered this a few days before the event. Great stuff!
| Following it live was really cool. Special shoutout to `andrea
| with "Your Code as a Crime Scene/Analyze code quality through
| Emacs"
| diehunde wrote:
| Great to see a couple of talks on org. I know a couple people
| (including myself) who don't use Emacs as a main editor but use
| org to manage tasks, ideas, projects, etc.
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