[HN Gopher] Show HN: Meli, a Netlify-like platform for deploying...
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Show HN: Meli, a Netlify-like platform for deploying static sites
Author : gempain
Score : 89 points
Date : 2020-12-11 15:58 UTC (7 hours ago)
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| yatsyk wrote:
| I've not found in docs anything related to static site
| configuration files (like netlify.toml or vercel.yml in hosted
| services). How to configure particular site?
| phreack wrote:
| Just FYI in case you care about this sort of stuff, there's a
| major eBay-like company in South America called MercadoLibre,
| that is commonly referred to as MeLi or simply Meli as well, and
| that also has the $MELI stock ticker. It's not a big deal at all
| but thought you'd like to know about it as it may impact organic
| discovery or cause a bit of confusion down the line.
| jedberg wrote:
| Fun fact: eBay used to be a 20% owner of MeLi.
| FanaHOVA wrote:
| This is interesting; I use Netlify for a Gatsby/Contentful
| website, as well as for a Netlify CMS one. I don't pay for any of
| it, so it's hard find a reason to move away. What are some of the
| problems you've seen people have with Netlify? Other than not
| being in control of the infrastructure of course.
| pwdisswordfish0 wrote:
| I found the Netlify CLI pretty exasperating to use. In addition
| to it just being straight up information overload at any given
| step, the feedback it does print out is often misleading or the
| opposite of helpful in some other way. More from my notes on
| that day:
|
| > My use case is to deploy a static site. I have a directory
| containing the pages. I've installed the Netlify CLI (itself a
| stupidly fiddly process). [And I've read the docs by now.] I
| should be able to init and deploy, trivially, right?
|
| Wrong. Without even trying I ran into some crash bugs in the
| CLI, for what seems to be a bog-standard use case. On a hunch,
| I decided to check what would happen if I moved the .git
| subdirectory somewhere else and re-ran. And whaddaya know, I
| found that it worked reliably when there was no .git
| subdirectory anywhere to be found, and it reliably failed when
| it was present. So even though the contents of .git/ are
| completely irrelevant for the use case, the CLI is evidently
| both (a) trying to do something with it, and (b) making some
| bold assumptions about what's in there and failing hard. My
| money is on "Nobody at Netlify is even testing this."
|
| (FWIW, no I didn't report this. The overall "feel" of their
| stuff leads me to believe it would be a painful experience with
| no upside. Several years ago, I interacted with some Netlify
| folks early after their launch to give some feedback that was
| more of the sort "I'm reaching out to inform you of a problem
| for your own benefit and help you resolve it" than it was
| anything like "I'm here to get you to help me with my problem".
| The overall tone of the responses were pretty obnoxious under
| those circumstances, so I noped out and never gave them any
| serious consideration until this year, where I discovered the
| situation above. I have to say it pretty much validated my
| early opinion.)
| [deleted]
| swyx wrote:
| (previously worked at Netlify)
|
| sorry to hear about your prior experience. fwiw the CLI was
| not fully staffed for a long time - but as of last year at
| least 2 engs are working on it fulltime and they should have
| capacity to look into your usecase if serious enough.
|
| yes, the CLI looks into .git, no i'm not sure if it was
| needed for what you were trying to do, but also no i have
| never run into the issue you describe as an almost-daily user
| of netlify for 4 years
| WA wrote:
| If you don't pay, it's rather slow. A lot slower than my static
| pages on a VPS I rent.
| at-fates-hands wrote:
| > If you don't pay, it's rather slow.
|
| I have several free sites on Netlify and none of them seem
| slow at all - all three sites load in under 450ms on Chrome.
|
| How much faster are your sites loading? Is it a shared VPS or
| dedicated?
|
| Just curious how you categorize "rather slow" is all.
| swyx wrote:
| its also location dependent. the cdn for the free tier is
| different (less PoPs) than the cdn for the enterprise tier.
| altdatathrow wrote:
| Is this an upgrade from my current platform to deploy static
| sites, FTP?
| city41 wrote:
| Depends on what your needs are. For example if you are working
| on a team, Vercel* automatically deploying feature branches is
| extremely useful. Pushing a new blog post to your personal
| site? FTP is probably fine.
|
| *Can't speak to Meli as I've never used it.
| mrkurt wrote:
| You're comparing a protocol to a set of automation tools. It
| may or may not be an upgrade. If you want something to handle
| builds, SSL, routing rules, etc ... then yes.
| echelon wrote:
| git push = automated build and test (eg. Typescript codebases),
| deploy, SSL cert setup, CDN asset hosting
|
| It's effortless.
|
| Like how it looks locally? Git commit, git push. Done.
| at-fates-hands wrote:
| Not sure how many times I was on the phone with a client who
| wanted a few quick updates. I just edited the repo on github,
| checked it in and BOOM! Told the client the changes were live
| while we were still on the phone.
|
| That kind of ease of use does wonders for your customer
| service numbers.
| dxdm wrote:
| Does this have anything to do with meli, the in-terminal mail
| client?
|
| https://meli.delivery/
| qwerty456127 wrote:
| What a crazy look.
| jedahan wrote:
| Thought this was about the mail client https://meli.delivery/
| gempain wrote:
| Hi there !
|
| We used to host our sites on Netlify, but our eyes fill with
| glitter when we hear open source and self-hosted. So, we built
| Meli, which essentially is a Netlify alternative that lets you
| deploy static sites and frontend applications with ease,
| featuring per-branch deployments, web/slack/mattermost/email
| hooks, an API, and a way to manage organizations, teams and sites
| easily.
|
| We built Meli on top of Caddy, a very powerful HTTP server
| (https://github.com/caddyserver/caddy). We've used Typescript,
| Node (backend), React (frontend) and MongoDB for the database.
|
| It's a beta, but you can install super easily with Docker
| Compose: https://docs.meli.sh/get-started/installation
|
| Check us out at https://github.com/getmeli/meli !
|
| Looking forward for your feedback :)
| gtirloni wrote:
| Nice project! It would be nice if there were some issues that
| volunteers can pick up to work on. What's the best way to reach
| the team to discuss this? I'd like to contribute.
| monadic3 wrote:
| You might describe the product directly for those who don't know
| what netlify is (seems like some kind of combination of a static
| file server and rsync aimed at enterprise).
|
| It makes me a little concerned that there are so many features.
| swyx wrote:
| also CI/CD + CDN + serverless functions + identity + forms...
| debt wrote:
| Genuinely curious, can someone clarify how these types of
| platforms(Netlify etc) are any different from something like an
| S3 bucket?
|
| You can host a static website via an S3 bucket.
|
| https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/dev/WebsiteHosti...
| edaemon wrote:
| They offer features that you'd have to build yourself with S3,
| e.g.:
|
| - HTTPS with automatic certificate provisioning
|
| - CDN
|
| - CI/CD integration
|
| - Add-on features like CMS, identity management, functions,
| etc.
|
| They also tend to offer those things for free, within certain
| usage limits. If you just need a plain HTTP site with no frills
| S3 is just fine.
| cloogshicer wrote:
| That's how I used to host my static sites but then I switched
| to Netlify because the UX for me as developer was just so much
| nicer.
|
| Maybe there's a way to also setup git sync with S3 buckets, but
| with netlify this is the default. And it's just so comfy to
| deploy with every git push.
|
| Also using any of the other netlify add-ons (forms, cloud
| functions) is super quick and simple. Something that I
| (admittedly an ops noob) can't say about AWS.
| jrururufuf666 wrote:
| its 2020 and the hottest topic is static site generators.
| geocities ftp 1998
| Possiblyheroin wrote:
| This is awesome - will definitely need to try it out on a side
| project.
|
| At first glance, seems to do something similar to Caprover.
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