[HN Gopher] Fractal Architectures: A Software Craftsman's take t...
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       Fractal Architectures: A Software Craftsman's take to
       Infrastructure as Code
        
       Author : tinodelletna
       Score  : 24 points
       Date   : 2020-12-14 20:51 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | gcaraciolo wrote:
       | While reading I have been thinking that u implemented the
       | framework by using some sdk like aws sdk + some interactive shell
       | program that check the current infra and prompts changes on it.
       | This should be well tested and could include a kink of
       | integration test for changes and their impact considering the
       | entire database.
       | 
       | This could be a way to mitigate problems with environment
       | variables rotation.
        
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       | idclip wrote:
       | Im sorry, but this was alot of fluff to read. Good visuals,
       | though, i see what you mean.
       | 
       | DevSecOps might be interesting. Looking forward.
       | 
       | Im an ops guy.
       | 
       | Edit: we need management to understand this.
        
         | tinodelletna wrote:
         | Yes, I guess too much intro... if you have any specific
         | feedback on parts I could have left unsaid it will be great to
         | know for next time.
         | 
         | About management, totally agree. That's why we are already
         | working on the next two articles.
        
       | jcims wrote:
       | "When you build infrastructure as code, you get infrastructure by
       | coders."
       | 
       | - Michael Scott
        
       | UncleOxidant wrote:
       | thin font is very difficult to read.
        
       | yowlingcat wrote:
       | While I'm not sure I find the fractal metaphor clarifying
       | (fractals are absolute _last_ kinds of structures I want to see
       | anywhere near my infrastructure definitions), I do sympathize
       | with the "false advertising" of infrastructure-as-code when it's
       | merely checked in. As the age old saying goes, programming in XML
       | (or JSON, or ...) is hell when you really want to reach for a
       | proper programming language.
       | 
       | This is part of the issue with CloudFormation. I've seen
       | monstrosities like an entire lambda function source code
       | definition written into a plaintext key in a YAML file, and worse
       | yet, seen this described as normal. Yes. Normal in hell is what
       | it is.
       | 
       | So with all of this said, I think developments like the AWS CDK
       | are very cool. CDK takes the approach of a high level SDK over
       | programming in YAML or anything like it. I like it a lot. It's
       | higher level than something like `boto` which is just raw
       | function calls, but not so high level that you're trying to write
       | deployment logic in YAML. You get a nice in between which is
       | written to behave in whatever language you use it in. I believe
       | this approach was spearheaded by AWS internally after seeing how
       | CFN become something widely considered a failure.
        
       | movedx wrote:
       | So straight off the bat I won't be reading this article.
       | 
       | The title sounds interesting and I think there are insights to be
       | gained, but I had to disable NoScript for the page/tab to load; I
       | had to disable NoScript, the means by which I protect my self
       | online (one of many few layers), so I could render some text.
       | 
       | After disabling NoScript to see that text it looked terrible.
       | 
       | This has led me to believe that a "software craftsman" that can't
       | get text to me over the Internet without JavaScript doesn't
       | really have much to teach me.
       | 
       | Sorry, friend. I'm sure your intentions are good, but the
       | delivery of those intentions was frustrating and utterly
       | pointless.
        
         | tinodelletna wrote:
         | Really sorry about that. Our site is an SPA so really relies on
         | Javascript. We have put a copy of the article on Medium:
         | https://tinodelletna.medium.com/fractal-architectures-a-soft...
         | I hope that will work
        
           | adam_ellsworth wrote:
           | Cheers! much better. (screencap for how it renders on
           | windows: https://i.imgur.com/jhxhjH0.jpg)
        
             | tinodelletna wrote:
             | Thanks! We will get on that CSS ASAP :)
        
       | odomojuli wrote:
       | Can't get the page to load despite disabling all of my trackers.
        
         | tinodelletna wrote:
         | https://tinodelletna.medium.com/fractal-architectures-a-soft...
        
         | tinodelletna wrote:
         | Oh that's strange, I will post a copy on medium and get that
         | link in here too.
        
         | oh_sigh wrote:
         | http://archive.is/hBtjp
         | 
         | I'm sorry but there is no sane reason why you need to enable
         | javascript to read a site that is 100% static content of text
         | and images.
        
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