[HN Gopher] Eric Engstrom, co-creator of DirectX, passes away at 55
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       Eric Engstrom, co-creator of DirectX, passes away at 55
        
       Author : WalterBright
       Score  : 62 points
       Date   : 2020-12-14 21:38 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | WalterBright wrote:
       | I've known Eric since around 1985 or so when he came to work at
       | Data I/O. Our friendship has ebbed and flowed over the years, but
       | he's always been special to me.
       | 
       | I have a little anecdote to share that probably only I remember
       | now, but it has always made me laugh and shows what an unusual
       | thinker he was.
       | 
       | When he was first working at Microsoft around 1991 or 92, he was
       | talking to a manager who had a problem. There was a program
       | written in assembler language, about 50k in size or so. The
       | program had a problem that needed to be fixed. The author no
       | longer worked at Microsoft. The manager had repeatedly assigned
       | various programmers the task of fixing it, and they'd all given
       | up after days of effort.
       | 
       | The trouble was the author had used the macro language that came
       | with the assembler to invent his own quirky, weird, undocumented
       | and thoroughly impenetrable language. None of the programmers
       | could figure it out. He was lamenting that he'd have to assign a
       | programmer to recreating it from scratch, which would take months
       | and cost a lot of money.
       | 
       | Eric says "I can fix it".
       | 
       | In 2 hours, he had it all fixed and checked back into the system.
       | 
       | The manager, astonished, asked: "how did you figure out the
       | author's language?"
       | 
       | Eric: "I didn't. I disassembled the binaries using Walter's
       | disassembler [a disassembler turns binary code back into source
       | assembler code]. The problem was then obvious, I fixed it and
       | checked the new source code back in!"
       | 
       | Eric then laughed uproariously, and so did I. Nobody but Eric
       | would have thought of that shortcut to solve the problem. If he
       | couldn't break through the wall, he'd go over it, under it, or
       | around it. He was always like that.
       | 
       | I'll miss him a lot.
        
         | idclip wrote:
         | And an absolute monster.
        
         | etaioinshrdlu wrote:
         | Can you tell us what this giant asm macro program was?
        
           | monocasa wrote:
           | FWIW, most large asm programs from back in the day relied
           | heavily on macros just to have some semblance of abstraction.
        
           | WalterBright wrote:
           | I don't think Eric told me, and if he did, I forgot. In those
           | days asm was often used for efficiency, as compilers weren't
           | that good compared to hand-coded asm. He knew I'd purposely
           | written the disassembler to produce MASM source code, and
           | thought I'd enjoy hearing about the use he put it to (and I
           | did!).
           | 
           | BTW, this anecdote is one of the reasons that I've strongly
           | resisted adding macros to D.
        
       | blinkingled wrote:
       | > He died at a hospital in Seattle. His wife, Cindy Engstrom,
       | said he had injured one of his feet in October, accidentally took
       | too much Tylenol for pain relief and suffered liver damage.
       | 
       | As sad as it is to lose a person at age 55, it's even harder to
       | digest the tylenol induced liver failure part until you
       | experience foot injury/pain. I spent last December in
       | excruciating foot pain that came out of nowhere and the thought
       | of wanting to guzzle down entire bottle of Advil/Tylenol touched
       | my mind at least couple times.
       | 
       | Anyway, RIP. Old interview with him -
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjZWUweIIEU
        
         | smabie wrote:
         | Doubtful. He was probably addicted to vicodin or some other
         | opiate that is mixed with tylenol
        
         | neogodless wrote:
         | Off topic:
         | 
         | Did you identify the problem? Was it gout?
         | 
         | It seems awfully silly for a random internet stranger to
         | diagnose your issue from "excruciating foot pain that came out
         | of nowhere" but...
         | 
         | I had basically that off and on again for seven years before it
         | was correctly diagnosed and treated. (As a healthy, active,
         | relatively young person, gout wasn't suspected, but eventually
         | an MRI gave a clue, and blood tests confirmed it.)
        
           | blinkingled wrote:
           | I got an X-Ray and it showed nothing. The doctor basically
           | thought I was there to score narcotics but he wasn't going to
           | get me any (I wasn't looking for them either but was told to
           | eat Turmeric pills believe it or not - I did and don't have
           | any way to know if it helped.)
           | 
           | Does gout come and go - I have not had trouble since then. If
           | it returns I will be sure to do a blood test - and I really
           | appreciate you asking. I am always for problem solving with
           | or without strangers help :)
        
         | jychang wrote:
         | Holy shit. That's insane. People don't realize how terrible it
         | is to die from tylenol induced liver damage. That's often
         | considered one of the worst ways to commit suicide. You're in
         | an incredible amount of pain for a long time.
        
         | I_Suleiman wrote:
         | Why would some think excessive Tylenol would be preferable over
         | narcotic pain meds How much Tylenol would a person have to
         | consume over a two month period to permanently damage their
         | liver This is bizarre.
        
           | monocasa wrote:
           | I've seen probably a dozen people in my high school class die
           | from their narcotic pain meds originally prescribed to them.
           | I only took a quarter of what was prescribed after surgery
           | from shattering my leg, and yet weening off was worse than
           | the pain from the injury.
           | 
           | I don't blame him for the choices he made, having been there.
        
           | blinkingled wrote:
           | In my case I went to the doctor only after trying to bear it
           | for as long as I can - they did an x-ray and said there's
           | nothing wrong with your foot and you'll just have to ride it
           | for some days. Heck the doctor asked me to eat Turmeric pills
           | - not even kidding. He made sure I wasn't getting a narcotic
           | - and I wasn't looking for it because I am really afraid of
           | side effects. (My wife is the same way - brave woman went
           | without touching the narcotic meds after tooth removal.)
           | 
           | That pretty much leaves you with OTC pain meds - I know in
           | these cases probably narcotics of the right kind in
           | restricted doses sound much better but I am just truly afraid
           | of side effects because of what we saw earlier in life.
        
           | quicklyfrozen wrote:
           | I know someone who ended up hospitalized from accidentally
           | taking two over-the-counter meds that both contained Tylenol.
           | It just doesn't take that much to cause damage.
        
           | renewiltord wrote:
           | Honestly, this one does surprise me. American doctors give
           | out opioids like nobody's business. They give you narcotic
           | painkillers for post-tooth-extraction pain! That's
           | ridiculous! The problem, I think, is that many people are
           | foolish enough to "return their unused prescription". I never
           | do that. I make sure to retain unused drugs to their true
           | expiry.
           | 
           | It must have been really quite painful. Still, I'd strongly
           | recommend keeping drugs of all manner handy if you've got
           | good self-control around them. They have high utility.
        
           | IfOnlyYouKnew wrote:
           | It's quite common. At least in Europe, available sizes of
           | Paracetamol were severely limited not too long ago because it
           | was the leading cause of overdose deaths.
           | 
           | Individual risk isn't exactly high, but OTC painkillers are
           | ubiquitous.
           | 
           | Both accidents and suicide attempts are/were frequent. It's a
           | rather terrible way to die, IIRC, with excruciating pain and
           | entirely too much time to regret the decision/accident.
        
           | 1996 wrote:
           | Just consuming more than 4g on one day may be enough to start
           | the liver failure, especially if using alcohol or other
           | drugs.
           | 
           | Protip: have some N acetyl cysteine handy. It's freely
           | available on amazon, and it protects your liver from
           | acetaminophen abuse (and helps rebound faster the next day
           | after a night of heavy drinking, but the FDA absolutely hates
           | when people mention that :-)
        
             | toomuchtodo wrote:
             | Appreciate this comment. If you have this on hand, how do
             | you know if and when to administer?
        
               | kridsdale1 wrote:
               | Not a doctor. I just take it when I feel shitty. I figure
               | there is a correlation between not feeling great and
               | oxidative stress in my whole system.
        
           | AdamN wrote:
           | Many stronger drugs have acetaminophen in them. I've tried
           | oxycontin and had very little benefit. People should know for
           | themselves what works for their pain but never underestimate
           | the damage drugs can do, even if they're over the counter.
        
           | agytvfr wrote:
           | > How much Tylenol would a person have to consume over a two
           | month period to permanently damage their liver
           | 
           | Liver damage can occur after a single incident. People have
           | died from single time overdoses of paracetamol. There is a
           | quick fix in an ER of giving NAC which can help eliminate
           | most of the damage, but there is a small window(a day or two)
           | where it is effective.
        
             | kridsdale1 wrote:
             | I have a load of NAC on hand. Would it be a good idea to
             | take it whenever I take Tylenol? I can't imagine a pharma
             | pathway that would result in it attenuating the painkiller
             | effect. Just mop up the oxidative damage.
        
               | IfOnlyYouKnew wrote:
               | Read the label. Switch to Aspirin, either completely or
               | half/half. If possible, try fixing the underlying
               | problem, not the pain.
        
         | 1996 wrote:
         | The lack of easy access to strong painkillers kills people,
         | driven to extreme by the madness of pain.
         | 
         | Yet we only talk about the evil of drugs, and the opioids
         | epidemic.
        
         | AdamN wrote:
         | Tylenol is really not to be abused. Much better to go heavy
         | with Ibuprofen and remember the old-time drugs like aspirin as
         | well as new ones like naproxen.
         | 
         | But really a doctor/nurse is critical if the pain is going on
         | for more than a day or two.
        
           | shock wrote:
           | > Much better to go heavy with Ibuprofen
           | 
           | Do you know that Ibuprofen can cause morphological changes in
           | the testes? I wouldn't call that much better...
        
             | khuey wrote:
             | It's a lot easier to live without testicles than without a
             | liver.
        
       | mellosouls wrote:
       | Non-paywalled obit (heavy on ads unfortunately, quite a bit of
       | detail though):
       | 
       | https://venturebeat.com/2020/12/07/friends-remember-microsof...
       | 
       |  _Engstrom was happiest working in his lab. His death came from
       | medical complications related to an accident in the lab, after he
       | dropped a monitor on his foot._
       | 
       |  _His friend, St. John, managed to get permission to visit
       | Engstrom and deliver some blood collection kit vials to him so he
       | could extract his blood and DNA for cryogenic cold storage._
       | 
       |  _"We're going to get a full genetic sequence of Eric's DNA," St.
       | John said. "Eric's going to live on forever."_
       | 
       |  _St. John played Viking music at the end of the service._
        
       | ddevault wrote:
       | Note, this is not Eric Engestrom, who works on Mesa and OpenGL -
       | I was confused at first.
       | 
       | Sympathies to the family. 55 is far too young.
        
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