[HN Gopher] How We Saved Dot Org ___________________________________________________________________ How We Saved Dot Org Author : thomasahle Score : 107 points Date : 2020-12-23 20:31 UTC (2 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.eff.org) (TXT) w3m dump (www.eff.org) | breck wrote: | Ah yes, bravo EFF, you've won another battle barely keeping us at | the status quo. | | When are you going to stop playing whack-a-mole trying to defend | against every assault on internet freedoms and go on the | offensive and try to win the game for the good guys? | | We now have the ability to give the poorest child on earth access | to the same information as the richest, and yet we allow industry | to shackle us instead. | | It's time to demand intellectual freedom. #AbolishCopyright. | #AbolishPatents. #AbolishImaginaryPropertyLaws | eps wrote: | No formal investigation into the ICANN corruption that led to | this situation in the first place? | kevin_thibedeau wrote: | Cali AG was looking into it. | longtailofsighs wrote: | I love a lot of what the EFF does, but this campaign, and many | other organizations involved in it got a lot wrong. The real | issue, that in fairness the EFF leads with, was the change in the | .org contract, not the sale itself. The most robust overview of | the whole thing that I have read can be found here: | https://www.internetgovernance.org/2020/05/01/no-real-winner... | | Whether people like it or not the operation of the DNS, including | .org, is a commercial endeavor. It doesn't make sense to focus | only on .org, when a) Registrars not Registries are the real | place to try and protect Registrants. b) Org has always been open | to anyone, and their are likely as many, if not more civil | society organizations in com, net, and other tlds. | techsupporter wrote: | > Whether people like it or not the operation of the DNS, | including .org, is a commercial endeavor. | | It's about disparate impact, as is the case in many things that | have extensive histories around them. | | That .org was allowed to drift from its original mission of | being the "catch-all / noncommercial" zone of the DNS doesn't | mean we shouldn't work to nudge it back to that original ideal. | At a minimum, allowing what is arguably a public good (DNS is a | limited space, though less limited than phone numbers or RF | allocations) to be transferred and barricaded is not good. | rhizome wrote: | > _Whether people like it or not the operation of the DNS, | including .org, is a commercial endeavor_ | | Whether people like it or not, this doesn't have to mean | privatized, nor profitable. | wolco2 wrote: | The fees on .org are expensive compared to the other top level | domains com/net | | I recently switched from org to the countrycode version for a | domain that was available and saved half of the cost. | reidjs wrote: | So $1 per month instead of $2? | nso wrote: | Not everyone counts their holdings in USD. That price | difference may be what sets a launched and abandoned project | apart. | | One of my neighbors is 17 and interested in coding and | computers. I'd say their family MAYBE brings in 250 USD a | month -- but probably less. A dollar can be a lot. | rodone wrote: | Yeah, let's get private equity involved, that'll make it | cheaper for sure. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2020-12-23 23:00 UTC)