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Visions of Alt-Berlin in "Man in the High Castle" (2017)
Author : tintinnabula
Score : 19 points
Date : 2020-12-23 21:25 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| severak_cz wrote:
| HBO's movie Fatherland (1994) was filmed in post-communist
| Prague. They used both matte paintings and real locations (of
| Prague) to depicts never-built nazi city of Germania.
|
| This use of real-life locations leads to some (for locals)
| hilarious moments like scene where gestapo tries to catch some
| man who is running away from them by train. The chase goes from
| station A to B where the man is killed. But funny thing is that
| they used just one real station to shoot both locations of A and
| B and they are actually just some 100m away.
|
| See https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109779/
| tomcam wrote:
| You've just described virtually all mainstream moviemaking, at
| least in the US. Even on location shoots there is almost never
| a case, for example, where an establishing shot of the exterior
| of a house or other building takes place within 100m or even
| 100 miles of where the interior set is.
| carabiner wrote:
| Behold the California filmmaking map. The whole world, in one
| state.
|
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| Animats wrote:
| Impressive monumental structures like that have been built. The
| Albany Mall, New York,[1] Nelson Rockefeller's monument to
| brutalism, probably comes closest. The Raj Path in New Delhi is
| similar, built huge on purpose to intimidate the populace.
|
| Sheer size to impress has gone out of fashion, since building
| very large structures isn't a big deal any more. Huge convention
| centers, air terminals, malls, and stadiums are normal now, and
| don't impress people much.
|
| [1]
| https://earth.google.com/web/@42.6489482,-73.7611536,51.2061...
| trianglem wrote:
| I don't think sheer size to impress can truly go out of fashion
| since that sense of awe transcends topical sensibilities. It's
| probably just not cost effective so no one does it. Huge
| buildings now are built out of light, transparent materials and
| part of being awed by scale requires the large building to be
| built out of solid, impenetrable feeling material like stone.
| jvanderbot wrote:
| This was a great article for learning some of the details of the
| architecture and its designer.
|
| I have no idea why it got so anti-architecture / anti-40s, just
| because Seer employed similar techniques. It tried to _implicate_
| the architecture as a tool of facism, which is a bananas theory
| to me.
|
| > "Even more problematically, the techniques of fascist
| architecture (or music or film or graphic design) may in fact be
| so powerful that they transcend history and even geo-politics:
| this is not just a "Nazi problem" we can relegate to the past.
| These tools work for fascists, but non-fascists are tempted to
| use them as well."
|
| But it was a style of the times that a facist adopted. That, oh
| god, may have come from america!
|
| > "Further complicating the story, the influence actually runs in
| multiple directions: in addition to admiring Haussmann's Paris
| and classical Rome, Speer was a big fan of L'Enfant's monumental
| plan for Washington, DC -- so where are the roots of the
| problem?."
|
| > "As Dietmar Schirmer has noted, much of the best architecture
| from the period -- whether in Berlin, Paris, or Washington, DC --
| employs the "Stripped Classicism" favored by Speer."
|
| > "But perhaps we need to feel the shock and try to push back on
| the awe: even if these structures are glorious, do we endorse the
| beliefs they embody?"
|
| Well thanks for trying to cancel 1940s architecture, and warn me
| away from admiring the very art you brought to me in this
| article.
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