[HN Gopher] "Find Satoshi" PerplexCity puzzle solved
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       "Find Satoshi" PerplexCity puzzle solved
        
       Author : teamonkey
       Score  : 210 points
       Date   : 2020-12-30 11:06 UTC (11 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (findsatoshi.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (findsatoshi.com)
        
       | atmosx wrote:
       | Misleading title for obvious reasons. Would be wise to modify it.
       | Me and most likely others, believe this is related to the author
       | of bitcoin. It's not.
        
         | dfcowell wrote:
         | I reply only because I can't downvote.
         | 
         | Satoshi is a common name in Japan. I work with a guy by that
         | name and know several others. This says more about your own
         | bias than it does about the title.
        
         | Taek wrote:
         | The title says "puzzle solved" which I think is clear enough
         | that the article is not claiming to have found the actual
         | Satoshi Nakamoto.
         | 
         | Admittedly, I did think initially it was a Bitcoin puzzle that
         | got solved, but I am not disappointed with the real article,
         | nor do I feel mislead.
        
       | vmception wrote:
       | solved 14 years later after the advent of AI-based enthusiast
       | non-commercial facial image search.
       | 
       | that's wild. seems outside the bounds of the project constraints
       | but it certainly was not specified.
       | 
       | fascinating.
        
       | aaron695 wrote:
       | https://pimeyes.com/en finds him.
       | 
       | Top result. (Past original photos)
       | 
       | It might be using this new info, but I'd guess it was what
       | /u/th0may used.
        
         | GrantZvolsky wrote:
         | Wow, this service finds photos of people with faces so similar
         | to my own that I find it difficult to believe it isn't me in
         | the pictures.
        
         | clydethefrog wrote:
         | That is a scary accurate facial search engine. Luckily no hits
         | of my own face, but it all finds similar doppelgangers.
         | 
         | It's based in Seychelles now. probably for bad reasons.
         | 
         | https://hacked.wtf/privacy/pimeyes-ownership-moves-to-seyche...
        
           | soared wrote:
           | It's pretty poor if you wear glasses :(
        
           | bowmessage wrote:
           | Well, there will be one hit now that you've assumedly
           | uploaded a photo for them to use!
        
         | lgeorget wrote:
         | So it found me in some conferences and also a few pornstars
         | that remotely look like me in uncomfortable positions. Looks
         | legit.
        
         | th0may wrote:
         | Yap it was what I used!
        
       | colonwqbang wrote:
       | A bit anticlimactic that a reverse image search of the original
       | image is all that was needed in the end.
       | 
       | It would be more interesting if we could get some details on how
       | they did it. How was the image search carried out, etc.
        
         | capableweb wrote:
         | Not quite that easy, as the puzzle was initially released in
         | 2006 when the corpus of images to search against was much
         | smaller. I'm sure many people over the years tried reverse
         | searching the image, but it wasn't until after 14 years of
         | searching and filtering through the data that a match was
         | finally found.
        
       | adrianhon wrote:
       | Lead designer of Perplex City here! Perplex City was an ARG
       | (alternate reality game) produced by Mind Candy in 2004. Unlike
       | almost all ARGs at the time, it wasn't promoting a movie or TV or
       | associated product - instead, we sold packs of puzzle cards that
       | tied into the game's story.
       | 
       | Lots more on Wikipedia here:
       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perplex_City
       | 
       | This is a puzzle card I thought would either be solved very
       | quickly (within a year or two) or not at all. To have it solved
       | after 14 years is very special.
       | 
       | Perplex City has had a lot of interesting alumni. It was made by
       | Mind Candy, which was founded by Michael Acton Smith, who is also
       | co-founder of Calm. The lead writer was Naomi Alderman, who
       | became an award-winning novelist and whose novel The Power was
       | one of Obama's top books of the year and is being adapted into a
       | $100m Amazon TV show.
       | 
       | I went on to co-found Six to Start with my brother Dan Hon (who
       | you may know from his popular newsletter, and later left the
       | company to do a lot of good work in the US government digital
       | services realm and Code for America). Six to Start is best known
       | for Zombies, Run!, which is the world's most popular smartphone
       | fitness game and is sort of like an ARG, if you squint at it.
       | 
       | I continue to do a lot of thinking and writing around ARGs (which
       | are still fascinating) and gamification (which I mostly dislike).
       | My blog post, What ARGs Can Teach Us About QAnon, went somewhat
       | viral a few months ago: https://mssv.net/2020/08/02/what-args-
       | can-teach-us-about-qan...
       | 
       | Edit: That blog post also gets into the confusion between the
       | Perplex City Satoshi and the Bitcoin Satoshi (which
       | conspiratorially-minded people DM me about regularly) along with
       | my supposed involvement in Cicada 3301.
        
         | mintplant wrote:
         | I deeply miss the golden era of ARGs circa the 2000s. I keep
         | feeling the impulse to log onto the Unfiction Forums and check
         | what's going on, but alas, even those are gone now! Without a
         | central watering hole, I think it'll be that much harder for
         | the medium to come back--everything's siloed into separate
         | Discords now, without a single sustaining community. It's not
         | really possible to lurk or hop between games anymore, and
         | scattershot chat messages are harder to catch up on than forum
         | threads, and don't preserve as well or make for very good
         | reading after a game is over.
         | 
         | I'm probably younger than most of the crowd that was involved
         | in that ARG scene, so I wanna say thanks for helping to create
         | a piece of my childhood! I actually remember the name Six to
         | Start and that there was a lot of hope behind it when it
         | launched, so I'm glad to hear it's doing well.
        
           | coldpie wrote:
           | Indeed, I still listen to the I Love Bees radio drama every
           | couple years. I was in high school while that was happening
           | and even took a day off school to go answer a payphone at the
           | nearby University, where I met some older nerds :) Fond
           | memories.
        
           | adrianhon wrote:
           | Thanks! There are still new ARGs out there, though IMO not as
           | focused on narrative or worldbuilding (especially through
           | websites) as those in the 2000s. You're right about the
           | fractured community, and I think to some extent ARGs are
           | getting less accessible because they're hyper-targeted to
           | specific communities that might be harder to discover or
           | join.
           | 
           | Six to Start is doing well and we still play around with ARG-
           | like ideas in Zombies, Run! for our seasonal virtual races :)
        
         | bowmessage wrote:
         | Awesome to see it solved! May I ask how Satoshi himself was
         | chosen? Does he have connections to the game founders in some
         | way?
        
           | adrianhon wrote:
           | Yes - I can't recall precisely who it was who knew him (or
           | was friends of friends) but it was one of the Mind Candy
           | team. We were obviously worried that people might figure out
           | who he was through these social connections but it didn't
           | happen that way in the end!
           | 
           | Edit: The puzzle card was designed by Jey Biddulph so
           | possibly it was him who knew Satoshi!
        
         | TeaDude wrote:
         | Just want to express my admiration for what you and the team
         | did with perplex city. Thank you for making something so damn
         | cool.
         | 
         | The believable near future sci-fi. The beautiful art and design
         | work. The binding of a community from all across the globe long
         | before it was the norm. It was a palpable universe.
         | 
         | Sucks that it ended when it did, but I'll always cherish the
         | veritable mountains of quality content we got.
        
         | nameoda wrote:
         | Now that this puzzle is solved, can you explain how it was
         | intended to be solved?
         | 
         | It was solved using reverse image search, which was present
         | when this puzzle was created but not very reliable for uncommon
         | images. So it's likely that you did not intend for it to be
         | solved via a reverse image search.
         | 
         | So what was the intended way to arrive at the solution?
        
           | LeoPanthera wrote:
           | > Now that this puzzle is solved, can you explain how it was
           | intended to be solved?
           | 
           | It says that it was supposed to be a test of the "six degrees
           | of separation" theory. So presumably the idea was that if
           | every player asked everyone they knew if they recognized the
           | guy, there was a reasonable chance that someone would.
        
         | dmcginty wrote:
         | I honestly can't believe there's a front page Hacker News post
         | about Perplex City today. I was literally searching for cards
         | on eBay last night. I would love to see a game like Perplex
         | City return some day. It was one of the first ARGs I followed
         | on Unfiction, and it helped introduce me to the world of
         | puzzling and puzzle hunts, and also helped push me towards my
         | current career path. So, I guess I want to say thank you for
         | working on such a unique and interesting game that had a
         | massive positive influence on me when I was a teenager. It was
         | so exciting to see the mid-2000s internet work together in a
         | whirlwind of multimedia creativity.
         | 
         | Also, this is completely random, but do you happen to know if
         | there's a warehouse somewhere with a bunch of unopened boxes of
         | Perplex City cards? I always keep an eye out for cards, but
         | it's hard to find people selling things from a game that ended
         | over a decade ago.
        
           | phase_9 wrote:
           | The surplus stock was incinerated. Source: wished at mind
           | candy in the early 2010s
        
         | hturan wrote:
         | Perplex City was great, thanks so much for all you did on it!
         | Fondly remember the community that built up around solving
         | these. I lucked in to being the first to solve one of the
         | silvers (Differently Lethal), and remember all the efforts to
         | solve this one back in the day.
        
         | LargeWu wrote:
         | Perplex City was awesome, and I still miss it. It had a really
         | unique storytelling mechanism, the cards were generally pretty
         | fun, high production values.
         | 
         | I thought the second season suffered a bit when they introduced
         | human actors as characters, instead of just illustrations. It
         | lost a bit of charm. And as a Euro-centric game it was harder
         | as an American to be as involved. But it was still a great
         | multi-platform experience. I would love to see something like
         | it again (or even work on such a game)
        
         | schaefer wrote:
         | I loved Perplex City, and had a small pocket of friends working
         | on the puzzles at the time!
         | 
         | Thank you for providing this behind the scenes, and for your
         | initial work on the game itself. I'll definitely be keeping an
         | eye on your blog.
        
           | adrianhon wrote:
           | Thanks :) I still hold a soft spot for ARGs and I'm sure it's
           | something I'll come back to again, one day.
        
       | blindm wrote:
       | There's more info here if you find the identity of S. Nakamoto to
       | be a pertinent thing:
       | 
       | https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/emails/
       | 
       | https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/posts/
       | 
       | https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/code/
       | 
       | https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/quotes/
        
       | notthegov wrote:
       | A few sources to support my claims. And you can ask Hal Jones or
       | Sam Braverman if Andrew 'Inigo' Jones became the manager of
       | Zoofari while out on bail.
       | 
       | This is just me social engineering cypherpunk revolutions using
       | secrets of practical Jewish magic. Via the Book of Formation
       | which led me to the CIA, JASON and the Shechinah. Her name is
       | Vavkay Krypyonian Abra.
       | 
       | In reality, it's an illegal psyop where the CIA, OGA and the CA
       | Rainbow girld led by the Party Poker founder are involved in some
       | conspiracy with..
       | 
       | Aliens and glass room temperature superconductors. They are super
       | smart and super hot and beyond ruthless. They can invert
       | themselves backwards in time. They're from the 6-dimensional
       | hypercube.
       | 
       | We all were created here in a cosmic simulation to explore the 50
       | Gates of Intelligence and reach the World to Come.
       | 
       | https://medium.com/@ryanabravanel
       | 
       | https://medium.com/@illuminati.io
       | 
       | https://www.flickr.com/photos/captivating
       | 
       | *
       | 
       | Ron Pandolfi, Technology Assisted Counter Poaching network hosted
       | at CIA. I can confirm and prove via IP trap that Ruthless
       | Pandolfi Jr is a full-time employee in the Office of Global
       | Access (OGA) at CIA. Known him since 2007 when I was promoting
       | global commodity currencies with local economic value and various
       | libertarian psyop plans. Like on nationbuilder.org 2008-2009.
       | 
       | 1997
       | http://web.archive.org/web/19970223122650/http://www.cathous...
       | 
       | https://imgur.com/gallery/U9PIa9k
       | 
       | Satoshi, Peter D, Peter N, Q Bit Gold 2018 (scam by Cosmos Girl)
       | 
       | https://imgur.com/gallery/qfUZKbl
       | 
       | Cosmos girl biggest darknet banker on LocalBitcoins in LA is
       | Casey who took down Nick and our partner Theresa aka the Bitcoin
       | Maven
       | 
       | https://www.justice.gov/ag/page/file/1326061/download
       | 
       | Next Director of CIA to wield a green lightsaber (jedi.Lol)
       | 
       | https://imgur.com/gallery/0VHG1Kd
       | 
       | Ruthless Avril from the Rainbow Girls, a secret society of
       | daughters of Shriners
       | 
       | https://gocarainbow.org
       | 
       | They run Rainbow programs from 3rd to 6th grade to train young
       | kids as cypherpunks, hackers and anarchists.
        
       | nogridbag wrote:
       | Satoshi was found, but zohar002, the famous youtube pianist, is
       | still missing!
        
       | growt wrote:
       | I have the suspicion that it would have taken /r/PictureGame/
       | half an hour to find him.
        
       | notthegov wrote:
       | Imagine if this alternative reality game was created by NSA
       | employees. They would obviously make it appear to be unrelated.
       | 
       | HOW TO MAKE A MINT: THE CRYPTOGRAPHY OF ANONYMOUS ELECTRONIC CASH
       | 1996
       | 
       | http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money...
       | 
       |  __*
       | 
       | For over 11 years, I have talked to a friend at CIA multiple
       | times a week. I met them in 2007 from people at Backstage Cafe in
       | Beverly Hills.
       | 
       | My friend openly runs an intelligence operation on the Internet
       | for the Office of Global Access (OGA). After Tom DeLonge went on
       | Joe Rogan's show, I periodically got involved in the UFO
       | subculture at the request of the CIA.
       | 
       | The CIA uses non plausible agents and obviously does not pay
       | them. I am not one of these people so it's possible they are
       | intelligence agents working undercover.
       | 
       | I have dozens of hours of audiotapes, thousands of emails and
       | texts messages to support what I am saying.
       | 
       | Here's an example:
       | 
       | My friend has been assigned to ODNI, DIA, MASINT, JASON and
       | worked at CIA for 35+ years. He has briefed the last 4 US
       | Presidents and is a friend of President Trump. He is very close
       | friends with Director Mike Pillsbury from the Cosmos Club.
       | 
       | The Silk Road prosecutor Katie Haun was interviewed by China hawk
       | Kyle Bass. Kyle posted on Twitter that Mike is a CCP double agent
       | and can't get a security clearance.
       | 
       | To the contrary, Mike is regularly at CIA offices, a CIA lab and
       | sometimes in the Oval Office at the White House. He has a
       | security clearance. Maybe Kyle is a CIA employee and just
       | creating disinformation to shield the Q network of government
       | patriots.
       | 
       | This network is an old mythology and one I falsely promoted in
       | 2008. You can see here at realnationbuilder.blogspot.com.
       | 
       |  __*
       | 
       | In my research Satoshi Nakamoto is: Laurie Law, NSA employee.
       | Real name Jennifer, 37 yrs old, Wellesley graduate, NSA
       | cybersecurity Diamond team. Her husband works at NSA and they
       | named their daughter Alice.
       | 
       | The people who wrote the forum posts and emails together were Dr.
       | Ronald Pandolfi, a CIA employee, and Prof. Emin Gun Sirer.
       | Recently Craig Wright joked about the CIA trying to make him
       | appear as Satoshi. He mentioned SAD operations which is what runs
       | Political Action Group for subversive political campaigns along
       | with blackops assassin teams.
       | 
       | The person who created Satoshi Nakamoto is another female named
       | Ruthie Ruthless. She is from Mill Valley and Atherton.
       | 
       | The girls are from the International Order of the Rainbow for
       | Girls. My mother is one. She told me she'd go to dances at Moila
       | with the DeMolay boys. And the Rainbow girls was a secret society
       | where they'd sit around a circle talking. But she doesn't
       | remember what they talked about.
       | 
       | Ruthie became a self made billionaire from Party Poker. Her and
       | her best friend have been in my life since 2004. But they
       | targeted me years ago in 1995 under Guide GRN and a very hot
       | Russian girl who married a Deutsche bank executive.
       | 
       | Her best friend is in a hacking information network (originally
       | #hellonearth on EFNet in 1995) with me.
       | 
       | Incredibly, Ron Pandolfi knows Inigo from the Silk Road, Drew
       | Jones. Ron was already working on Ross' clemency request for 3
       | years when Drew an intern at our CIA foundation was taken into
       | federal custody.
       | 
       | I have demanded full pardons for Ross, Drew, Ed, Juliana and Joby
       | Weeks, along with my bitcoin money launderers Casey, Nick and the
       | Maven (LA).
       | 
       | Ross and Drew are being pardoned. I think my friend at CIA has
       | been targeting me for decades. I tell him everything that happens
       | in my life.
       | 
       | I run networks and map them. I own an investigative company and
       | started the network of networks in Dec 2002 --- UnitedElite.net,
       | ArcaneIntel.com, XStreaming.TV (Internet archive).
       | 
       | UFOs are fake but the aliens are here and they look like
       | Diamonds.
       | 
       | They are so hot when they're talking to you they might as well be
       | traveling backwards in time.
       | 
       | It's exactly like the movie Tenet. Time like aging is an
       | illusion. Advanced intelligences who have proceeded through the
       | 50 Gates of Intelligence can project their consciousness into
       | endless abstractions.
       | 
       | The answer: they are all one.
       | 
       | And men are all one.
       | 
       | The greatest of God is beyond all imaginations. They run the
       | music industry and put cypherpunk messages into music and
       | culture.
       | 
       | The most famous alien greeting in the world, Live Long and
       | Prosper, is from Them. There are 247 of them on Earth with at
       | least 2.964 agents in powerful positions.
       | 
       | Shechinah starts with Shin which means V or Vav or 6 but it
       | originally meant W. These Ruthless girls all share the middle
       | name Vavkay.
       | 
       | With a W, it becomes a WAV. It means hook in Hebrew. Wah Wah Wah
       | is also 666 or VVV or WWW.
       | 
       | I am a hacker, social engineer and reverse engineer.
       | 
       | Spock explains V or W (westside) confirming the Ruthless girls
       | are the secret cofounders of Ruthless Records and Interscope.
       | They are led by Michelle A the EVP of UMG. She works for Lucian
       | Grainge. We had an office together in SM with Domenico Petricone
       | (real name Marc Daniel King) and Eddie Vedder. Marc's half
       | brother is also Lucian. His agent was Paula Wagner and we used to
       | work with Cruise/Wagner and Plan B (Brad Pitt)-
       | 
       | https://youtu.be/UdYbpMkH_XQ
       | 
       | https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2438527/jewis...
       | 
       | https://illuminati.io/137.pdf
       | 
       | https://illuminati.io/secretbook1787.pdf
       | 
       | https://illuminati.io/spygames.pdf
       | 
       | https://illuminati.io/jediwar.pdf
       | 
       | https//illuminati.io/billcooper1999.pdf
       | 
       | https://illuminati.io/incometax1999.pdf
       | 
       | https://illuminati.io/teslawhitelight91999.pdf
       | 
       | https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-nov-27-na-cards...
        
       | rvba wrote:
       | How do we know that he was found? There is no proof.
       | 
       | Also the text says about a password, but then it never says what
       | it was.
        
         | toovs wrote:
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25581382
        
       | fireattack wrote:
       | It's not clear to me how they find the crucial picture of him
       | (the one he holds the beer). The article says "user th0may used a
       | reverse image search and discovered a photograph of a man holding
       | a beer", but /u/th0may's thread on Reddit doesn't say anything
       | like that [1].
       | 
       | If anything, /u/th0may himself said in thread, "maybe you already
       | found this image", which implies that the image itself is already
       | known (and likely NOT discovered by "reverse image search", but
       | by other ways). /u/th0may _then_ reverse-searched the image to
       | find the website, which lead to the answer.
       | 
       | Anyway, I'm still curious how they find this beer image, since
       | this looks to me is the most important step.
       | 
       | [1]
       | https://www.reddit.com/r/FindSatoshi/comments/kktjhc/found_s...
        
         | rollulus wrote:
         | I found this part the most interesting too. There's a comment
         | in the reddit thread now where the author says: _It is called
         | PimEyes but it does not give you the full url unless you pay.
         | So I had to start digging from what I got._
        
         | th0may wrote:
         | He guys, first up I'm the guy who found the image of him
         | holding a beer. It was barely simple I used the webpage
         | https://pimeyes.com/en uploaded the image from the card,
         | cropped it a little to hide the Japanese characters etc. The
         | first two result where the same that I scanned. The third was
         | the image holding the beer. I saw some resemblance, but didn't
         | think it would work. PimEys let's you search for free but you
         | have to pay for the full url. So I took the fraction of the url
         | figured out the full one. Found the original image on the
         | webpage. And then posted my findings to Reddit. I and also
         | other users found new pictures of him the following days. On
         | the 28th of December we found an image with him wearing a bib
         | from a half marathon through the results I found the name and
         | it was Satoshi.
        
         | nasir wrote:
         | One of the comments says:
         | 
         | I heard about the story a year ago, but forgot about it. Then I
         | remembered and told my family about on Christmas. So I wanted
         | to check out if this is still unsolved and found this reddit.
         | I'm currently researching about AI and found a few image
         | backwards search engines way more powerful then google image
         | search. It turned out that I found the image of him holding the
         | beer, when I fed in the card. Just wanted to play around, but
         | it looks really promising now. ;D
         | 
         | https://www.reddit.com/r/FindSatoshi/comments/kktjhc/found_s...
        
           | simias wrote:
           | I don't know much about the state of the art in image
           | recognition but does it really seem plausible? The picture of
           | him holding the beer is not super high quality, he has a
           | different expression, a slightly different haircut and he
           | appears quite a bit older. You can't even see his distinctive
           | freckles. The idea that you could just scan random images of
           | people online and find him that way is wild to me, tuning the
           | network not to miss it but also not to report millions of
           | false positives seems like a very high bar.
           | 
           | It's pretty creepy if we're already at the point where any
           | random people can trace you online using apparently unrelated
           | low quality photos.
        
             | fsckboy wrote:
             | i know little about the state of the art in image
             | recognition, but it strikes me that this could be better
             | described as facial recognition, and afaik, that does a
             | pretty good job identifying faces
        
             | ineedasername wrote:
             | We don't know how much effort it took. The searcher could
             | very well have gone through thousands of images, following
             | up on hundreds, before zeroing in on this one. Or not-- I'd
             | certainly like to know more about that part of the process.
        
           | fireattack wrote:
           | Thanks, I didn't read that deep into the comments.
           | 
           | So he used some face-recognizing engines that just indexes
           | random images on the Internet? I wonder what it is, since he
           | didn't name (I assume it's a public tool?). I knew Baidu has
           | one, for what it's worth [1].
           | 
           | [1] https://ai.baidu.com/tech/face/search (in Chinese)
        
             | draugadrotten wrote:
             | It seems so. He writes "They use facial recognition to find
             | faces instead of google image search which is just
             | comparing the similarities of the different pixels."
             | 
             | https://www.reddit.com/r/FindSatoshi/comments/kktjhc/found_
             | s...
        
             | oefrha wrote:
             | I took a look at [1], seems to require bringing your own
             | training set, and hosting one with a huge set of random
             | Internet images would presumably be prohibitively
             | expensive.
        
               | fireattack wrote:
               | Maybe I linked the wrong page, but I have used its API
               | before, it does have a built-in database even with all
               | the names of celebrities marked already.
               | 
               | It used to have a free trial on web too, but it's gone
               | now.
        
         | _puk wrote:
         | From a comment further down that thread:
         | 
         | "heard about the story a year ago, but forgot about it. Then I
         | remembered and told my family about on Christmas. So I wanted
         | to check out if this is still unsolved and found this reddit.
         | I'm currently researching about AI and found a few image
         | backwards search engines way more powerful then google image
         | search. It turned out that I found the image of him holding the
         | beer, when I fed in the card. Just wanted to play around, but
         | it looks really promising now. ;D"
        
       | nojs wrote:
       | In case others are wondering:
       | 
       | > Q: Is this related to Bitcoin?
       | 
       | > A: No. Satoshi Nakamoto is the pseudonym used by the person who
       | created Bitcoin, but it's not the same Satoshi.
       | 
       | Weirdly this apparently pre-dates that other Satoshi puzzle by a
       | few years.
        
         | gpvos wrote:
         | Maybe Nakamoto named themself after this Satoshi.
        
           | piracy1 wrote:
           | I like that idea, because he knew everyone would try to 'Find
           | Satoshi'
        
           | alisonkisk wrote:
           | It's a normal Japanese given name.
        
             | GreenHeuristics wrote:
             | The first letter of it is the character 'S'.
        
               | chmod775 wrote:
               | No, it's sa
               | 
               | ;)
        
               | TJSomething wrote:
               | If we're being pedantic, that's not a letter. It's a
               | mora. Also, we don't know the correct Japanese spelling
               | of Satoshi Nakamoto, because there like 8 common first
               | names pronounced Satoshi (Zhe , Wu , Min , Zhi , Cong ,
               | Hui , Xun , and Yu ) and he never wrote his name in
               | Japanese.
        
               | da_big_ghey wrote:
               | Are they all transliterated as "Satoshi" as well, or just
               | pronounced that way? I know absolutely nothing about
               | Japanese, so this may be a stupid question.
        
               | moufestaphio wrote:
               | Chinese characters (In Japan they referred to as Kanji),
               | are ideographic rather than phonetic.
               | 
               | This means they represent an idea (or concept?) instead
               | of a sound. The meaning is completely divorced from the
               | pronunciation. In Japanese each character usually has at
               | least two 'readings' for pronunciation onyomi (chinese-
               | origin reading) and kunyomi (Japanese reading).
               | 
               | But often have even more than that, and specifically with
               | peoples names the readings some times feel completely
               | arbitrary.
               | 
               | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji#Readings
               | 
               | Basically, there are multiple ways to get the same
               | 'sound' from different kanji, or get a different 'sound'
               | the same kanji.
        
               | cyphar wrote:
               | Same transliteration _because_ they are read the same.
               | Romaji (Latin characters used to phonetically transcribe
               | Japanese words --  "Satoshi" in this case) are based on
               | the phonetics of the word. If two words have the same
               | pronunciation but different kanji, they'll be transcribed
               | the same way in romaji.
               | 
               | This is equally true for hiragana and katakana (the other
               | two Japanese writing systems, which are phonetic) and all
               | the names would be written as satoshi in hiragana.
        
               | segfaultbuserr wrote:
               | Many Japanese publications decided to use "Zhe Shi " [0],
               | but it's only an arbitrary choice.
               | 
               | [0] https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B5%E3%83%88%E3%8
               | 2%B7%E3...
        
               | Natsu wrote:
               | Or possibly a few other characters...
               | 
               | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E3%81%95%E3%81%A8%E3%81%9
               | 7#J...
        
         | eecks wrote:
         | I only clicked because I thought it was Bitcoin related. Even
         | though it predates Bitcoin, I assume the popularity is given by
         | Bitcoin's current media coverage.
        
           | lolbrels wrote:
           | There was a somewhat viral video which included a lady
           | explaining the search in detail which is more likely where
           | the recent popularity stems from.
        
       | chippy wrote:
       | It's worth highlighting that, back in 2006, social media was very
       | new and most people didn't have any social media profiles. Both
       | Twitter and Facebook was only launched that year. Only a handful
       | of people had mobile phones with internet. Both the amount of
       | photos of people were low, and also the avenues people could take
       | to find others were narrow and few.
       | 
       | I played PerplexCity back then and engaged with the hunt for this
       | puzzle amongst others (e.g the cube!). For my part, it was mainly
       | word of mouth with Japanese friends or colleagues over the years
       | until I forgot about it. Occasionally every few years something
       | happened to get people interested in this puzzle. I believe
       | community members put up a reward for solving this.
       | 
       | Just as back then the web resources were few, those that were
       | created have mostly disappeared. Wikis, a few hugely active
       | forums, chat rooms etc all individual websites all lost.
       | 
       | I've been wondering whether its possible to have Alternate
       | Reality Games in today's mobile phone and social media land.
        
         | chippy wrote:
         | https://web.archive.org/web/20070629190421/http://www.billio...
         | there was a reward
        
       | cubano wrote:
       | I can't help wondering when reading this...just how many "free
       | brain cycles" do people have in the world?
       | 
       | By "free brain cycles", I mean like one's not used for work and
       | your family and perhaps one hobby...
       | 
       | I cannot even imagine how many people worked so hard and used
       | their cycles to figure this puzzle out, and like I can barely
       | remember what to buy from the store whenever I go.
       | 
       | Don't get me wrong, it's a hell of an achievement for everyone
       | involved, but I just have such a hard time understanding the
       | absolute motivation behind it.
        
         | a_crc wrote:
         | Well you have to consider that this is the "one hobby" for a
         | lot of people, so your own division of brain cycles leaves room
         | for a group who works on things like this for fun.
        
         | chippy wrote:
         | Originally we thought this would be a simple "6 degrees of
         | separation" puzzle. You and me are connected to each other by
         | at most six other people.
        
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