[HN Gopher] Sailor's Chanties (1906) [pdf]
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Sailor's Chanties (1906) [pdf]
Author : brudgers
Score : 35 points
Date : 2021-01-17 08:02 UTC (14 hours ago)
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| sorokod wrote:
| The Sex Pistols had a go at this in 1980. Skip the video if you
| are easily offended: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCWXdl2DAs0
|
| Obligatory wikipedia reference:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Ship_Venus
| jghn wrote:
| That was post both Rotten and Sid, so "Swx Pistols" is being
| generous
| sorokod wrote:
| Ah true, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great
| _Rock_%27n%27_Roll_Sw... lead vocals Steve Jones
| tunnuz wrote:
| Can someone explain Internet's sudden interest in sea shanties
| that seems to have exploded in 2020?
| Asmod4n wrote:
| Copyright expiration maybe.
| jkepler wrote:
| I doubt most authentic sea shanties were ever under copyright
| to begin with. I remember learning a handful of them in the
| 1980s in primary school, back before they were trending
| online---back in 'pre-history' before the web was invented.
| styluss wrote:
| IIRC it's been trending on TikTok for a couple of weeks
| bhaak wrote:
| This article goes into some details how it started on TikTok by
| Scottish musician Nathan Evans
| https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/15/entertainment/sea-shanty-...
|
| FWIW, I remember the sea shanties being wildly popular in the
| Assassin's Creed gaming community when they got introduced in
| AC Black Flag (or was it AC Rogue?) and they have been added to
| every following game that features sea travel.
|
| Seems to be aligned with the current Zeitgeist.
| leoc wrote:
| The sea-song trend has been simmering on social media for a
| while, before boiling over just now and since before the
| start of the pandemic. This "Drunken Sailor" video
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgwOHnr3xVE got a fair bit of
| attention in about 2019. One or two professional groups have
| also been having some success.
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjC9HMlysmA _Assassin 's
| Creed IV_ does seem likely to have been the starting point.
| jimnotgym wrote:
| There is also a group called The Fisherman's Friends from
| Port Isaac in Cornwall UK. They had a hit record and a film
| made about them (typical British dramatised RomCom). I
| think this made a lot of people conscious of the sea
| shanty.
|
| https://thefishermansfriends.com/
| jpxw wrote:
| My pet theory is that it's an expression of people who are
| hungry for tradition.
| adamjb wrote:
| Especially a tradition that embodies camaraderie in the face
| of isolation.
| roesel wrote:
| Perhaps the rising popularity (and recent discounts) of Sea of
| Thieves?
| harperlee wrote:
| Well serendipity makes them reappear, and once they are exposed
| to mainstream audiences, well, they are very simple, very
| rythmic music made for easy recall and easy chanting no matter
| your skill. And as said in other comments, they bring a mix of
| pirate/adventure/old-times lore that seems cool. I'd also add
| that to insecure young men they will seem safer to chant. Same
| as with martial music.
| djmips wrote:
| And lots of 'bass'!
| bjt2n3904 wrote:
| They're heavily designed for community building. The
| call/response format means it's easy to join after hearing it
| once or twice. The lyrics are usually a limerick of sorts, and
| the chorus never changes.
|
| The tune is designed to carry itself without musical
| accompaniment, has limited range, and is easy to harmonize
| with. The coarse lyrics about various hardships and simple tune
| almost lend itself to voices that aren't particularly sweet,
| and that gives it a charming character of it's own.
|
| Now, given that people have been quarantined for months on end,
| sea shanties are a drop in for a want for community.
| mhd wrote:
| Isn't it mostly one sea shanty that's making the rounds on
| TikTok? Just like we had Dreams being catapulted into the
| Billboard charts again, not the whole Fleetwood Mac oeuvre?
| cm2012 wrote:
| Wellerman
| sanqui wrote:
| Well, they're about working hard and living in confined spaces
| with limited social interactions. It was basically a matter of
| time ever since quarantine started.
| emmelaich wrote:
| Assassin's Creed IV - Black Flag had a lot (30+) sea shanties.
|
| It was quite a few years ago - but perhaps it was the spark.
| alejohausner wrote:
| I'm fond of Stan Roger's "Barret's Privateers", which recreates
| the spirit of Nova Scotian raiders on American ships.
|
| https://youtu.be/3T0Ruhb734U
| mrlonglong wrote:
| Shanties, just my 2C/ nitpick.
| bschne wrote:
| I've seen the tiktok meme taken up on twitter, but somehow it's
| always the same song (Wellerman) and only about 2-3 variants of
| it being reposted.
|
| Is this a bigger thing with more variety that's going on on
| tiktok, or is it just the one that went viral with a few variants
| alongside?
| sanqui wrote:
| I'm not on Tiktok, but I've seen a few others posted on
| Twitter, like this one:
| https://twitter.com/EKingstonBooks/status/134990668753737318...
| witherk wrote:
| The in game song "Sea Shanty 2" has been one the bigger memes
| in the "Old-school Runescape" community ( a bigger community
| than you would expect)
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJhF0L7pfo8&ab_channel=OldSc...
| williamdclt wrote:
| Yeah, it's a bit of a trend, there's more than this one song
| going round on tiktok
| chris_wot wrote:
| I know of this one, which is "Leave her Johnny".
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fow61Zsn2s
|
| For once I can actually get into something in the Zeitgeist.
| TikTok has something actually great - layering voices.
| Amazing. Never thought I'd say that about TikTok.
| idakyne wrote:
| Not aware of the tiktok meme, however there are a few uk based
| acapella groups specializing in sea shanties. 'The longest
| johns' are one of my favorites.
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