[HN Gopher] A bot that converts Reddit threads into ace attorney...
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       A bot that converts Reddit threads into ace attorney scenes
        
       Author : rvieira
       Score  : 220 points
       Date   : 2021-01-18 13:42 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (github.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (github.com)
        
       | Borlands wrote:
       | This looks great! Lacks instructions on how to use it in the
       | readme, and I wonder could it be adapted for other cartoon
       | animations?
       | 
       | A blog post on how it was built would be a great follow-up!
       | 
       | Kudos to you, sir
        
       | godot wrote:
       | The readme doesn't mention it, but I like that it seems that
       | anim.py is pretty standalone so you could potentially use it not
       | just for Reddit comment threads, but pretty much any conversation
       | at all.
       | 
       | Also like that it seems fairly easy to modify to use another
       | prosecutor as the second main character. I know who I'd use!
        
       | degurechaff wrote:
       | I want a danganronpa version too.
        
       | yowlingcat wrote:
       | My sides are splitting. This is the lighthearted use of
       | technology that I live for. Thanks for making my weekend, OP! And
       | now to find good subreddits to target...
        
       | reilly3000 wrote:
       | You're all right big guy!
        
       | quenix wrote:
       | That is amazing.
        
       | vyrotek wrote:
       | Fun. Reminds me of Comic Chat.
       | 
       | Maybe we need a Slack app to make these images for each message?
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Comic_Chat
        
         | jcfields wrote:
         | I forgot all about Comic Chat. It was fun (and also the most
         | appropriate use of Comic Sans MS ever).
        
           | furyofantares wrote:
           | I believe it's the origin of Comic Sans
        
         | tomatotomato37 wrote:
         | There's this thing which is kinda like that
         | 
         | https://aceattorneyonline.com/#
        
         | namanaggarwal wrote:
         | I used to get kicked out everytime I converted a group to comic
         | chat. Those were the days :)
        
         | RyJones wrote:
         | The OG Comic Chat client is available[0]; too bad Slack killed
         | the irc gateway.
         | 
         | [0]: http://www.mermeliz.com/cchat.htm
        
       | nuodag wrote:
       | https://www.reddit.com/user/objection-bot
        
       | nkg wrote:
       | I love it
        
       | grenoire wrote:
       | The demo video notes that it uses Phoenix as the most-commenting,
       | and Edgeworth as the second (and the rest of the cast following
       | that); in addition, it uses a NLP to determine the tone of the
       | voice, and mark an _Objection!_ if it 's negative.
       | 
       | Absolutely genius.
        
       | pi-victor wrote:
       | hilarious af. noice!
        
       | pfdietz wrote:
       | AA illustration of why gcc is so slow.
       | 
       | https://twitter.com/i/status/1285217798642454531
        
         | pimlottc wrote:
         | Note that this was created manually, it's not an example of the
         | bot's output. I was really impressed before I realized that :P
        
       | xwdv wrote:
       | Wow this is a brilliant way to mass produce tons of unique
       | YouTube videos and get lots of views. I wonder what the ad
       | revenue is like.
        
       | dukeofdoom wrote:
       | Actually, if there was something that turned a thread into
       | speech, that I could listen to while doing work around the house,
       | might be useful.
        
         | rebuilder wrote:
         | Pocket does Text to Speech, IIRC. I think I tried it on reddit
         | at some point. It turns out the ability to just skip comments
         | and not read through all the threads in their entirety is
         | pretty important.
        
         | Lorin wrote:
         | This could be done in browser via native speechSynthesis API.
         | Maybe there's already an extension out there.
        
       | davidscolgan wrote:
       | I've wondered if the AI superintelligence everyone is watching
       | out for is actually slowly being built from the bottom up, and
       | encompasses evening in the entire world. Deep Thought from
       | Hitchhiker's Guide is seeming more and more plausible to me.
       | Perhaps this bot that makes Reddit videos doesn't do anything
       | "useful" per se, but it is doing what a human might otherwise do,
       | and adds itself to Reddit as an entity that could be
       | indistinguishable from a person making silly videos.
       | 
       | What percentage of Reddit comments are bots? I'd be curious to
       | know. SaaS and Lambda functions and and APIs are all like very
       | complicated neurons that link together to form this world wide
       | web of interactions.
       | 
       | I've wondered if an approach to the AI alignment problem is
       | really to see that the entirety of all the computers in the world
       | are a giant brain that is continually self-improving. Phoenix
       | Wright bot is one neuron, like any other. And so to align the
       | world AI, you have to align the culture that makes the AI. And
       | so, basically, anything that one does to improve the culture in a
       | sense improves AI.
        
         | kubanczyk wrote:
         | > a giant brain that is continually self-improving
         | 
         | ...nope, does not qualify. If it cannot manage to replicate
         | itself completely (as in: create another separate 'internet'
         | capable of further replication) it is as good as a single human
         | living on Mars. It's a short ride, one small mistake and
         | goodbye Mr. Superintelligence. (I'm not claiming humans will be
         | able to survive that though.)
        
         | leetcrew wrote:
         | maybe so, but I don't think this particular program does
         | anything like AI. glancing at the code, it looks like it just
         | pastes the full text of a reddit comment into a video template,
         | using a different template for each unique commenter in the
         | thread. it no more "does what a human might otherwise do" than
         | how a sorting algorithm might emulate how I sort my socks.
        
           | haolez wrote:
           | It uses a neural network for sentiment analysis, so it can be
           | classified as "using AI".
        
         | ta1234567890 wrote:
         | You are spot on. We are so self-centered that we think an AI
         | superintelligence will be something like superintelligent-
         | human-mind, when most likely, it will be nothing like a human
         | and probably completely unrecognizable to us.
         | 
         | In fact, I'd argue it's already here and already taken over.
         | 
         | Most of us are now enslaved by screens and the Internet, we are
         | addicted to them, even if we don't want to admit it. Some might
         | say these things are run by humans, but are humans really in
         | charge? Can any single person turn off the internet or prevent
         | everyone else from using their phones/screens for hours every
         | day? Is even a group of people capable of doing it? And even if
         | they could, would they?
         | 
         | Maybe if humans went extinct, the Internet and screens would
         | disappear, but that just means there's a symbiotic
         | relationship, not that we are by any means in control.
        
           | fao_ wrote:
           | > Can any single person turn off the internet or prevent
           | everyone else from using their phones/screens for hours every
           | day?
           | 
           | Google "ICANN"
           | 
           | https://deadline.com/2020/07/internet-down-outage-
           | cloudflare...
           | 
           | https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/25/21719396/amazon-web-
           | serv...
        
             | jwally wrote:
             | Google: "I CAN"
        
         | yissp wrote:
         | Apparently it's not running anymore, but
         | https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditSimulator/ is sort of
         | apropos. It's an entirely bot-generated subreddit. You can
         | still read through the old posts.
        
       | danbolt wrote:
       | The first Ace Attorney game must have been incredible value for
       | Capcom's investment. The spartan, comic-like sprites and
       | straightforward visual novel gameplay likely fit into a smaller
       | ROM size. Given the charming narrative, I bet they made their ROI
       | pretty quickly in the first print run.
        
       | csilverman wrote:
       | Oh my god, this is funny.
       | 
       | I'd never even heard of the game before this, but the
       | animation/music is hilarious just on its own.
        
         | shmerl wrote:
         | Check this out:
         | http://aaonline.fr/search.php?search&criteria[sequenceId-is]...
        
       | bombcar wrote:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvFk8hapDZY is the link to the
       | demo (missed it the first time reading the github).
        
       | dwighttk wrote:
       | Too bad it isn't Reddit, I'd love to see the weightlifters
       | arguing over how many days are in a week.
        
       | 3gg wrote:
       | A true cornerstone in the development of Web 3.0.
        
       | slavik81 wrote:
       | People also do this manually via objection.lol. One of my
       | favourites is "All odd numbers have an E in them" [1].
       | 
       | [1]: https://youtu.be/IFcyYnUHVBA
        
         | dharmab wrote:
         | "Is Lava Wet" is art.
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWF_8dw0zdQ
        
           | bentcorner wrote:
           | Also notable: "Is soup a drink?"
           | 
           | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDNuz_VFJtU
        
       | ArcMex wrote:
       | You can tell a Lotta Hart went into this.
        
       | mensetmanusman wrote:
       | This will be even more amazing when AI animation and vocals are
       | auto generated.
        
       | rahimnathwani wrote:
       | Apparently Ace Attorney is a computer game:
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ace_Attorney?wprov=sfla1
        
         | Jommi wrote:
         | Its a Nintendo DS Game that has grown a cult following ever
         | since the first game was released. A visual novel style game.
        
           | m45t3r wrote:
           | Actually the original series is from Game Boy Advance, but
           | the GBA games were never released outside of Japan.
           | 
           | Nintendo DS ports were the first one releases in the rest of
           | the world.
           | 
           | BTW, I am a great fan of the series, really recommend it.
        
             | JohnBooty wrote:
             | Did you know that it's actually a rather pointed
             | parody/criticism of the Japanese justice system? I had no
             | idea myself! Perhaps I was the only one who didn't know.
             | 
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_justice_system_of_Ja
             | p...
             | 
             | The conviction rate in Japan is over _99%_ -- going to
             | "trial" is essentially the same as being found guilty.
             | 
             | The prosecuting attorneys have a lot of discretion over
             | what is prosecuted, and are effectively de facto judges.
             | They may decide to simply not prosecute a case if they feel
             | "character, age, environment, gravity of the offense,
             | circumstances or situation after the offense" makes it
             | unnecessary.
             | 
             | So it's easy to imagine there might be some with quite an
             | ego like Edgeworth or Von Karma -- and a protagonist like
             | our heroic defense attorney would be quite the unusual
             | attorney, indeed! I loved the games even without knowing
             | any of that, but that really makes them all the more
             | poignant and funny for me.
        
               | patwolf wrote:
               | I recently started playing it on the Switch, and my first
               | thought was that I hope the Japanese court system isn't
               | really like this. It makes me appreciate the idea of
               | "innocent until proven guilty" in the US. Ace Attorney
               | feels much more "I don't like you, so I'm going to assume
               | you're guilty unless you have absolute proof that you're
               | not".
        
               | TheDong wrote:
               | Justice systems are complicated. From what I've read,
               | it's true that the japanese court system indeed gives
               | prosecutors more leeway and the trial is more of a
               | formality. The conviction rate of 99% (vs 70-95% in the
               | us, depending how you count) speaks to this.
               | 
               | However, that's not all there is to it. You're still
               | innocent until proven guilty in Japan.
               | 
               | There's also probably more in common with the japanese
               | justice system and the US system than different. In
               | practice, the majority of cases in both don't go to
               | trial. In japan, the prosecution will just not prosecute
               | any case they don't think they'll win (and have broad
               | leeway to do so). This results in a 99% conviction rate
               | because, well, there's no reason they can't just drop any
               | case without rock solid evidence. Even in cases where
               | they're confident the suspect is guilty, but they don't
               | think they have enough evidence, they may opt to just
               | drop the case.
               | 
               | In the US, similarly, most cases don't go to trial. The
               | vast majority are also ended under prosecute discretion,
               | via plea bargains. Both in the US and Japan, most cases
               | skip the proper court system due to the prosecution
               | having power to do so. It's just in Japan, the
               | prosecution also has power to drop the case, while in the
               | US the prosecution can only skip the courts if they get a
               | plea deal, but not if the suspect keeps pleading not-
               | guilty.
               | 
               | Japan has laws requiring evidence in addition to a
               | confession due to understanding that police sometimes
               | force confessions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal
               | _justice_system_of_Jap...)
               | 
               | In america it's routine for people to be convicted on
               | nothing other than a suspect agreeing to a plea deal even
               | though they didn't do it. "You can get 1 year in jail and
               | get back to your family if you take the plea, or you can
               | risk 30 years in jail if you keep saying not-guilty"
               | isn't at all unusual in the US system, especially since a
               | cop's word is often enough for a guilty sentence.
               | 
               | I'd be happy to be wrong on any of he above details if
               | anyone has separate experience, understanding, or
               | sources.
               | 
               | All that being said, I'd much much rather be arrested in
               | Japan than in the US.
        
               | marzell wrote:
               | I wonder if this is partly an extension of what you might
               | call "confirmation culture", which could be described as
               | a way of avoiding disgrace/humiliation.
               | 
               | For instance, when applying for a promotion, I've heard
               | that in Japanese culture it is common to get pre-approval
               | from various parties beforehand so that it is ensured
               | before a formal/public application is made; this way,
               | nobody is disgraced by being turned down. Not sure how
               | true that is. But it could apply to the justice system in
               | a similar way; having a high conviction rate means the
               | justice system is effective, whereas trying someone and
               | not convicting them might make the justice system look
               | bad.
        
       | pacificat0r wrote:
       | We need that but foe hn comments
        
       | whymauri wrote:
       | This bot is a lot of fun! Maybe we need an HN clone? :P
        
         | meibo wrote:
         | That wouldn't work, the characters in ace attorney aren't that
         | passive aggressive ;)
        
           | brink wrote:
           | Well maybe some of us need to fix our attitudes a little
           | more.
        
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           | xwdv wrote:
           | It will work better if you use downvoted comment threads.
        
           | [deleted]
        
           | Impossible wrote:
           | You do often win the game by being pedantic and pointing out
           | small issues that didn't have anything to do with the
           | original main testimony, so maybe parent is on to something
           | after all :)
        
             | sitkack wrote:
             | Objection! Don't do that here.
        
       | swayvil wrote:
       | Watched the demo. Impressive.
       | 
       | It grinds that (all too common) petty drama into sausage.
        
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