[HN Gopher] WindowTabs: Browser-style tabbed window management o...
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       WindowTabs: Browser-style tabbed window management on the desktop
        
       Author : Emendo
       Score  : 30 points
       Date   : 2021-01-29 21:25 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | pidg wrote:
       | Not free (or 'free') but there is a commercial app that does this
       | very well indeed - Stardock Groupy. It was bundled in with
       | something else I bought years ago and I just leave it running as
       | it's quite handy.
       | 
       | https://www.stardock.com/products/groupy/
        
         | nxc18 wrote:
         | You beat me to it. They've got a bunch of cool utilities. In
         | the windows 7 days I was a huge fan of logon studio.
         | 
         | Microsoft could learn a lot from what they're doing, as for the
         | most part I still prefer not using 3rd-party utilities to mess
         | with things.
        
           | pidg wrote:
           | Their 'Fences' app is excellent (which was the app I bought
           | the bundle for).
           | 
           | In particular, the ability to create a view on the desktop
           | onto another folder. This lets me split my desktop into
           | 'local' and 'cloud' areas by having a fence containing a view
           | onto a Google Drive-hosted folder.
        
       | smusamashah wrote:
       | Is it for Windows 7 only? Will it work on Windows 10?
        
       | nxc18 wrote:
       | Stardock Groupy is a commercial supported utility that does the
       | same thing, IIRC released during the long period when Microsoft
       | was teasing Windows 10 Sets.
       | 
       | https://www.stardock.com/products/groupy/
       | 
       | I think Microsoft must have abandoned sets when they moved to
       | Edgium; their engineers were somehow under the impression that
       | Sets was 100% dependent on Edge, and I think they must have been
       | planning the feature as a cudgel against other browsers. IDK, I
       | wish the Windows PMs were like 40% less user hostile and didn't
       | treat us like children to be manipulated.
       | 
       | Tldr, Groupy is pretty cool and at least appears to fit in with
       | the windows 10 desktop better than the open source utility, for a
       | price.
        
         | pidg wrote:
         | > for a price
         | 
         | At risk of seeming like a shill (I just like Groupy!) there
         | seems to be a 50% discount code here, making it the price of a
         | coffee: https://www.techradar.com/uk/reviews/groupy
        
       | josephernest wrote:
       | Please add a screenshot to see how it looks like.
        
         | ajtjp wrote:
         | Seconded. Marketing 101: Make it easy for the consumer to see
         | why they might want to try the product.
         | 
         | I use Stardock's Groupy, and it does this well (and is
         | inexpensive). I'm not sure why I'd want to switch to this when
         | I already have Groupy, although the general idea is one that I
         | think should gain more traction.
        
       | wtfrmyinitials wrote:
       | The sway window manager has this feature built in and it's
       | wonderful. I use it all the time.
        
       | AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote:
       | Awesome. Microsoft themselves had planned this feature for some
       | time, but abandoned it for some reason. Instead they were
       | probably focusing their efforts on making it harder to prevent
       | automatic updates.
        
         | kepler471 wrote:
         | Is the feature you mean called Sets?
         | 
         | https://insider.windows.com/en-us/articles/introducing-sets
         | 
         | Looks like it was removed from Windows preview due to feedback,
         | they may be reworking it in the background.
        
         | dusted wrote:
         | the other half of their time was spent making sure you can't
         | disable that blue full-screen "Let's finish setting up your
         | device" nag.
        
       | esalman wrote:
       | My go-to file explorer power tool on Windows is Q-dir [1]. It
       | supports tabbing among other useful features.
       | 
       | [1] http://www.softwareok.com/?seite=Freeware/Q-Dir
        
       | helloworld wrote:
       | In 1993, the Windows Taskbar actually began life as tabs across
       | the top of the screen:
       | 
       | https://www.businessinsider.com.au/history-of-the-windows-st...
        
         | WaldoLydecker wrote:
         | Ahead of their time in breaking the desktop analogy.
        
         | afterburner wrote:
         | Seems a key change was to name the button "Start" instead of
         | "System". It's a built in instruction!
        
           | pidg wrote:
           | Reminds me of the (apocryphal?) story that the 'OK' button is
           | only labelled that way because in user testing people read
           | the original text - 'Do It' - as 'Dolt'.
        
         | mixmastamyk wrote:
         | Funny. I never liked the taskbar at the bottom of the screen on
         | Windows, so I always move it to the top. To this day, it still
         | screws up new window alignment, twenty five-ish years later.
         | 
         | After I moved to Linux and 16:9 monitors became mandatory I
         | moved my gnome/mate taskbar to the left side, where it has
         | stayed for about a decade. It is a bit clumsy in the vertical
         | position, but does the job.
        
         | ajtjp wrote:
         | That isn't quite the same a what this software is or what
         | Groupy does, but that is a fascinating article. I loved this
         | part:
         | 
         | ---
         | 
         | For instance, one study subject took twenty minutes of staring
         | at a Windows 3.1 desktop before being able to open a text
         | editing program. Finally, a programmer spoke up that this was
         | unacceptable, to Oran's relief. But that relief would be short
         | lived: "Our customers are morons!" exclaimed the programmer.
         | 
         | This was frustrating enough, Oran says. But then they talked to
         | that user, and it turns out that he was actually a propulsion
         | engineer for Boeing.
         | 
         | "He was literally a rocket scientist," Oran says. "And even he
         | couldn't figure out Windows."
         | 
         | ---
         | 
         | IMO the #1 opportunity for open source software to gain more
         | mainstream acceptance is focusing on making it easier for non-
         | technical users to use. Which is hard when most of your
         | userbase is technical users. Microsoft deserves credit for
         | realizing they had a usability problem, and having made major
         | improvements to that over the years.
        
           | TeMPOraL wrote:
           | > _IMO the #1 opportunity for open source software to gain
           | more mainstream acceptance is focusing on making it easier
           | for non-technical users to use. Which is hard when most of
           | your userbase is technical users. Microsoft deserves credit
           | for realizing they had a usability problem, and having made
           | major improvements to that over the years._
           | 
           | ... I don 't know. On the one hand, I applaud the sentiment.
           | On the other hand, general computing needs of technical users
           | are already becoming a niche too small for the market to
           | serve. If Open Source community gets into their heads that
           | they should optimize for non-technical users, I fear we'll
           | have a dearth of tools...
        
       | donatj wrote:
       | I'm surprised no one has mentioned BeOS / Haiku who's windows
       | titlebars Tab automatically across all programs.
       | 
       | https://discuss.haiku-os.org/uploads/default/original/1X/abb...
        
       | rkagerer wrote:
       | Cool!
       | 
       | If you want tabs in Windows Explorer, I've been using QTTabBar
       | for years and it's pretty good.
        
       | reaperducer wrote:
       | Is this like the tabs in macOS Finder, or something better?
        
         | Toutouxc wrote:
         | It's many different apps now, even 3rd party ones, not only
         | Finder.
        
         | AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote:
         | From playing around with it for a bit, it allows you to tab any
         | application, including tabbing different applications together
         | in a group. There's also something to do with workspaces that I
         | haven't played with yet.
        
       | lostmsu wrote:
       | Self-ad: Stack WM (for Windows 10). Also shows tabs for windows,
       | but works more like a tiling WM.
       | 
       | https://losttech.software/stack-whatsnew-2.0.html
        
       | moyix wrote:
       | I remember enjoying this with Fluxbox back in 2003 or so :)
        
       | mauricef wrote:
       | Hah! A friend just shared this with me, I'm Maurice the original
       | author, long time anonymous hn lurker. This was a labor of love,
       | I still remember the sheer exhilaration when I made my first
       | sale!
        
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       | civilized wrote:
       | Windows 95 had this, we just didn't call it tabs back then
        
       | mkl wrote:
       | VS2019 but Windows 7?
       | 
       | A similar app is TidyTabs: https://www.nurgo-
       | software.com/products/tidytabs
       | 
       | Has anyone tried it? It's not open source, but "free for personal
       | use".
        
       | Gualdrapo wrote:
       | I miss when KDE had this in the KDE4 days. The only place I know
       | where you can have window tabs by default is in Haiku.
        
         | clircle wrote:
         | i3 and any similar window manager have this feature.
        
         | adamnew123456 wrote:
         | A sibling comment mentioned Sway, and I've also used this on
         | both Fluxbox and i3. I would be surprised if Awesome didn't
         | have it as well.
         | 
         | The only problem is that (at least in Fluxbox's case) it
         | suffers from poor discoverability, since it's a modifier to the
         | window drag action that has no corresponding buttons or
         | "landing zones" like what you get if you try to tear tabs out
         | of a Firefox window.
        
       | greggyb wrote:
       | I've had this for years in i3 on Linux.
        
         | WalterGR wrote:
         | The README says it's been available since 2009.
        
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