[HN Gopher] How to increase your luck surface area (2010)
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       How to increase your luck surface area (2010)
        
       Author : deadcoder0904
       Score  : 250 points
       Date   : 2021-01-30 13:09 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | jonnycomputer wrote:
       | Given just how much _bad_ luck I 've had in my life, I'm not sure
       | I want to increase my Luck Surface Area.
       | 
       | Ha ha. I know, that's not what the blog post is talking about.
       | Well, sort of. Obviously, more exposure also means more risk.
       | Like, I never used to get publication scam spam until I got
       | published.
        
       | Invictus0 wrote:
       | There is no such thing as being lucky. It is just a matter of
       | perspective. Luck is what happens when people spontaneously feel
       | grateful.
        
         | OgAstorga wrote:
         | Isn't a good hand in Texa's considered luck? Isn't being
         | invited by M. Zuckerberg to help code a side project named
         | thefacebook considered luck (whether or not you've accepted)?
        
           | Invictus0 wrote:
           | These are just circumstances that present themselves to you.
           | They are no more or less lucky than waking up in the morning,
           | seeing the sun shine, or having clean water to drink. It's a
           | matter of perspective.
        
         | freshpots wrote:
         | Check this out, your opinion may change:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LopI4YeC4I (12:03)
        
           | adnzzzzZ wrote:
           | Check this out, your opinion may change:
           | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZM_JmZdqCw (54:01)
        
         | alfiedotwtf wrote:
         | I think from your comment, you didn't the article
        
       | sh490 wrote:
       | By increasing the size of your exposure. Ideally, diversifying
       | exposure to opportunities/people/circles/etc.
       | 
       | This should be done concurrently with (if not as a result of)
       | increasing quality and amount of your output. By the time you
       | meet the 'right' person, are in the 'right circle', you'll have
       | something to show. Otherwise, it's wasted opportunity, and hence
       | wasted luck.
        
         | hntrader wrote:
         | That's what the article says:
         | 
         | Luck = Doing * Telling
        
       | bigbassroller wrote:
       | I have come to a similar conclusion through the phrase "luck is
       | opportunity meets preparation".
        
       | yalogin wrote:
       | This is only tangentially related to the article.
       | 
       | I keep hearing a lot of "put effort into what you are passionate
       | about". One thing I found is passion is also generated. It
       | happened to be many times, I force myself to work and n something
       | for some time and I automatically see the beauty/challenge in it
       | and develop the motivation without the need to push. I want to
       | hear other's opinions on it.
        
       | pontifier wrote:
       | This puts the onus on others. In my opinion the biggest
       | contributors to luck are observation i.e. the ability to see
       | opportunity, and willingness to execute on the opportunities you
       | see.
        
       | motohagiography wrote:
       | Taleb talked about this with his recommendation to get exposure
       | to randomness that has asymmetric upside, and is analogous to
       | luck is preparedness meeting opportunity. What I like about the
       | OP's model is it also explains the asymmetry of social media
       | where people do very little at all and talk about is _a lot_
       | because the kind of non-linear success we are aiming for is a
       | function of exposure.
       | 
       | When you have wealth of any kind, you naturally orient to getting
       | exposure to opportunity for diversified parts of it, but when you
       | have a scarcity view, your decisions are necessarily all/nothing,
       | and it even becomes a class culture thing. It's circumstances,
       | but also learned attitude.
       | 
       | Related, I'm sympathetic to what's happening with GME and WSB, if
       | a young persons net worth is four digits, it seems insane _not_
       | to gamble it on options, as the housing bubble has cut off the
       | last way for working people to get leverage. GME may mark the
       | inflection point in the markets where young people realize it 's
       | their best or even only opportunity for leverage, and meme stocks
       | are going to be the new normal because the economy doesn't
       | provide anything better to invest in for under $50k. (that is,
       | unless remote work makes distant property viable to live in)
        
         | stouset wrote:
         | Your observation about young people with four-figure net worths
         | thinking it's rational to gamble it all on options is pretty
         | much this week's equivalent of those living paycheck-to-
         | paycheck "investing" in the lottery.
         | 
         | The bigger problem is that this is rarely just a one-time
         | decision to gamble. And repeatedly doing this is statistically
         | pretty certain to lose you significant amounts of money--
         | particularly when compared to just investing in the market as a
         | whole--over the long run. It's just another way that the poor
         | are trapped in poverty, even though you can of course always
         | find individual cases where someone got lucky and made
         | millions.
         | 
         | This is one of the reasons I think Robinhood is a
         | _fundamentally_ an evil company. It's been pretty conclusively
         | demonstrated that the more trades you make as a retail
         | investor, the worse your returns. To wit: Fidelity did some
         | internal research on their customers to see which cohort had
         | the highest returns. The winning cohort? The dead. Dead people
         | don't make trades, and so perform better than the living who
         | do. I'd be willing to bet a _large_ sum of money that
         | Robinhood's internal metrics conclusively prove that the net
         | effect of their existence is a wealth transfer from the poor to
         | the rich.
         | 
         | The real Robin Hood-esque company in this whole thing is
         | Vanguard, who have almost certainly done more than most any
         | other company in this space to return profits from the market
         | to customers of all wealth ranges.
        
           | jcims wrote:
           | >Your observation about young people with four-figure net
           | worths thinking it's rational to gamble it all on options is
           | pretty much this week's equivalent of those living paycheck-
           | to-paycheck "investing" in the lottery.
           | 
           | One difference here is the solidarity aspect of meme stocks
           | vs lottery.
        
           | conformist wrote:
           | These are good points and the lottery analogy seems quite
           | accurate. I think, there may be an additional macro-aspect to
           | this: If you are a young person with a four-figure net worth,
           | you should be able to leverage this to buy (non-financial)
           | options that have a much higher expected payoff than hyped
           | stock options. For example, being able to quit a job to apply
           | for others, moving to another town, spending additional time
           | and money on education or similar. These are all options that
           | you haven't got without the four-figure net worth. The real
           | tragedy is that these options seem to be becoming more
           | expensive or scarcer. Many are still better than an iterated
           | lottery, but the (perceived) decline in optionality may be
           | worthy of some sympathy. (Completely agree on Vanguard.)
        
           | throwaway2245 wrote:
           | > Your observation about young people... equivalent of those
           | living paycheck-to-paycheck "investing" in the lottery.
           | 
           | You're so close to uncovering something here...! Why do you
           | think so many people play the lottery?
        
             | ghaff wrote:
             | I'm sure there are many reasons. But many boil down to: I
             | (rightly or wrongly) think a few lottery tickets don't
             | really matter to my ability to eat/make rent/etc., it's fun
             | to dream, and it's the only way I'll ever have even a
             | remote chance to be "rich."
        
           | dataflow wrote:
           | > Your observation about young people with four-figure net
           | worths thinking it's rational to gamble it all on options is
           | pretty much this week's equivalent of those living paycheck-
           | to-paycheck "investing" in the lottery.
           | 
           | It's not--the lottery is _by design_ guaranteed to have
           | negative expected returns. The stock market isn 't.
        
             | graeme wrote:
             | Stock trading has negative expected returns compared to buy
             | and hold though.
        
           | the_local_host wrote:
           | > Your observation about young people with four-figure net
           | worths thinking it's rational to gamble it all on options is
           | pretty much this week's equivalent of those living paycheck-
           | to-paycheck "investing" in the lottery.
           | 
           | But when you "invest" in the lottery, you don't get to help
           | blow up a hedge fund. I think many of the retail participants
           | in the GME phenomenon find some entertainment value in what
           | they're doing.
           | 
           | That said, I do think Robinhood makes it too easy for people
           | to put on positions that they simply don't understand. The
           | fiasco with "1R0NYMAN" comes to mind.
        
           | im3w1l wrote:
           | So something I've been thinking about: Living people enter
           | the market when they make money, and they do that in a
           | correlated way (times of high employment). And they exit the
           | market in a correlated way to spend on retirement or college
           | or whatever. Entering and exiting when everyone else do means
           | you get a bad price.
        
           | sokoloff wrote:
           | I agree with your points on trading frequency, but I still
           | think Robinhood is good for people rather than bad.
           | 
           | I think the alternative destination for a lot of that
           | Robinhood money isn't "Vanguard VTSAX" but rather slightly
           | positive lifestyle inflation/expenses.
           | 
           | To the extent that's the case, all the gamification and
           | reinforcement is creating a behavior that's better than the
           | likely alternative. (Returns are not good if your total
           | _lifetime_ investment trades are zero.)
        
           | dehrmann wrote:
           | > The real Robin Hood-esque company in this whole thing is
           | Vanguard
           | 
           | This.
           | 
           | I do worry a bit that there's something I'm missing because
           | Vanguard is a Boomer thing that's no longer relevant, but I
           | suspect all the research is solid and Vanguard being
           | shareholder-owned aligns interests. Robinhood is probably
           | just clever marketing and gamification of stock and options
           | trading.
        
             | threedots wrote:
             | No you're good. I'm a career hedge-fund/market guy and all
             | of my investable assets (outside of my company and my
             | house) are in vanguard trackers. I'd guess most of my
             | friends who are professional investors are the same (except
             | they likely have some investment in their own fund).
             | 
             | That's not to say there aren't better investment options in
             | the world but they aren't accessible to ordinary people
             | (even quite rich ones).
        
               | dehrmann wrote:
               | > I'd guess most of my friends who are professional
               | investors are the same
               | 
               | I'm curious about this. Hedge fund guys make enough to be
               | accredited investors, but they mostly don't invest in
               | them? Are the minimums too high? Are the yields not that
               | great? I know the 2010's weren't great years for hedge
               | funds. I also halfway wonder if the _real_ product hedge
               | funds sell is complex strategies to pension fund manages
               | who think it 's hard to explain their job if they're just
               | buying index funds.
        
           | PartiallyTyped wrote:
           | Being a 4 digit net worth grad student in Europe, riding a
           | few meme stocks just for a short-while has increased my
           | 'wealth' and given me tremendous amount of financial freedom.
           | I understand that the odds are against me, but really, the
           | expectation even when accounting for variance, and adjusting
           | for risk tolerance are a no brainer to me.
           | 
           | I made >40% of my net worth in the first 2 weeks of January
           | alone, and with GME I have multiplied my net worth by
           | (>tenfold). Yes I understand that these are 'extraordinary
           | times', but accounting for everything. I have literally
           | nothing to lose. I can fast for a week if I need to, I can
           | walk instead of taking the metro. Whatever. I am not going to
           | lose a lifestyle that I never had and I never had a safety
           | net to begin with because being a 4 digit net worth student
           | doesn't give you any safety net.
           | 
           | Keeping track of my bets even before getting into this, I was
           | right more often than not, and I am aware of survivorship
           | bias and confirmation bias. In the limit, it makes more sense
           | to spend 4-5 hours per day learning about market analysis,
           | observing trends close to me and making decisions about
           | sectors/fields that I know about.
        
             | tylerhou wrote:
             | In the short term, when someone gains in the stock market,
             | someone else loses. Because of "invisible" transaction fees
             | that go to Wall Street, retail is losing on net. So in the
             | bigger picture, small investors aren't winning, despite our
             | insistence that we are. Some of us are winning. Most of us
             | are losing. And the net result is that Wall Street is
             | getting richer. That's not good.
        
               | uyt wrote:
               | Expected value (a straightforward sum of total money in
               | the system) is the wrong way to look at it.
               | 
               | His point is that the expected _utility_ of these gambles
               | is still positive for people who have nothing.
        
               | tylerhou wrote:
               | Expected utility is positive implies that people have
               | discontinuous utility functions wrt. money. That is,
               | utility will jump significantly after reaching a certain
               | net worth.
               | 
               | Another explanation that is consistent with gambling
               | behavior is that people have inaccurate _risk_ functions;
               | that they overestimate positive upside and underestimate
               | downside.
               | 
               | I am not familiar with the economic literature. But I
               | believe that there is more evidence to support the second
               | hypothesis. Behavioral economics has showed that humans
               | are notoriously unable to estimate risk accurately. I
               | have not seen as much evidence that humans have
               | discontinuous utility functions.
               | 
               | Behavioral economics also tells us that humans are also
               | terrible at estimating their actual utility functions. So
               | I also don't trust the original poster who _claims_ that
               | they have a discontinuous utility function. The only way
               | to test that is to observe actual human behavior.
        
               | salty_biscuits wrote:
               | The obvious discontinuity is "never have to work". People
               | talk about this all the time when they talk about this
               | stuff.
        
               | [deleted]
        
             | darkerside wrote:
             | The trouble is that, if it works, why wouldn't you try it
             | again? You're not only a single data point, you are also a
             | snapshot in time. Two months ago, you didn't have much.
             | And, unless you truly decide to stop doing what you're
             | doing, you are likely to have about the same two months
             | from now.
        
             | credit_guy wrote:
             | My advice to you would be to have an exit plan. For
             | example, set aside 20% of your assets in a savings account,
             | maybe even some type of account where it's not that easy to
             | cash out, to limit the temptation of dipping into it. Then,
             | as your assets grow (if they do), at various thresholds,
             | you set aside preset amounts of money. This way, if you
             | "lose it all" one day, you don't get to "walk instead of
             | taking the metro", you get to afford a down payment for a
             | smaller apartment instead of a bigger one.
        
             | __turbobrew__ wrote:
             | Why not go to the casino and bet your 4 digit net worth on
             | black jack? You probably have similar or better odds of
             | making money compared to meme stocks.
        
               | PartiallyTyped wrote:
               | I wouldn't say so. After running some simulations and
               | assuming a fair dealer, it makes more sense to follow
               | r/wsb. Doing a sentiment analysis on WSB after you
               | account for bots and spam generally outperforms the
               | market.
        
             | stouset wrote:
             | Look, it's great that you managed to be one of the people
             | who came out ahead in all of this.
             | 
             | But while you personally have seen some success so far,
             | it's important to recognize that _overall_ this is a
             | transfer of wealth from people in your financial situation
             | to the wealthy. The fact that this one situation is so
             | incredibly newsworthy should be strong evidence of how
             | unlikely such successes are in practice.
             | 
             | Further, a lot of the people holding on to $GME right now
             | _will_ be caught holding the bag once the selloff begins.
             | Once the reversion happens, there won 't be buyers willing
             | to take this rapidly-pluging asset at every price point
             | along the way. Certainly some people will get out at sky-
             | high prices, but the overwhelming majority will be left
             | holding a $10 asset they purchased at $400+.
             | 
             | > I made >40% of my network in the first 2 weeks of January
             | alone...
             | 
             | Only if you've sold. And if you haven't, I do genuinely
             | hope that you're one of those who manages to get out in
             | time. But even if you are, it's important to realize that
             | the eventual winners of this scenario aren't going to be
             | the Redditors holding on to $GME shares, but the wealthy
             | short-sellers who manage to either predict the pop or
             | simply have enough assets to hold on long enough for it to
             | happen.
             | 
             | > I have literally nothing to lose.
             | 
             | No, you had 4 digits of net worth to lose. And while that
             | might not seem like "much", it's quite literally not
             | nothing. And while you've been fortunate to win on this
             | play, the statistics are pretty clear that plays like this
             | keep more poor people poor than make the poor rich.
             | 
             | > Keeping track of my bets even before getting into this, I
             | was right more often than not, and I am aware of
             | survivorship bias and confirmation bias. In the limit, it
             | makes more sense to spend 4-5 hours per day learning about
             | market analysis, observing trends close to me and making
             | decisions about sectors/fields that I know about.
             | 
             | First off, compare your plays to overall market returns,
             | not to net-zero. Your benchmark over the past five years
             | should be something around +90% (about 14% YoY returns).
             | Actually, you need to be a little better due to trading
             | expenses and (in the U.S. at least) short-term capital
             | gains tax raets vs. long-term gains.
             | 
             | Second, it's astonishingly easy to be profitable when the
             | overall market is having record returns. The trick is not
             | losing your shirt when the market goes upside down, and
             | everyone thinks that part is going to be much easier than
             | it really is in practice.
             | 
             | In sum, I genuinely wish you luck, but I'm sadly all too
             | aware that the statistical reality is that spending 4-5
             | hours per day learning about market analysis and making
             | trades based on your findings is overwhelmingly more likely
             | to leave you poorer than richer.
             | 
             | You can find people who've become rich betting it all on
             | black at the casino, but that money didn't come from the
             | house. It's just redistributing funds from all of the other
             | suckers at the table, while the casino takes home the real
             | winnings.
        
               | PartiallyTyped wrote:
               | Thank you for your concern, I appreciate it. Yes I have
               | an exit strategy, and with the second semester starting
               | again, I won't really have the time to deal with this all
               | of this. I made enough to setup a system to run
               | experiments and fund my research for a year or two
               | without needing to bug professors or make commitments on
               | topics that don't really interest me.
        
               | Judgmentality wrote:
               | > But even if you are, it's important to realize that the
               | eventual winners of this scenario aren't going to be the
               | Redditors holding on to $GME shares, but the wealthy
               | short-sellers who manage to either predict the pop or
               | simply have enough assets to hold on long enough for it
               | to happen.
               | 
               | What the hell are you talking about? The short sellers
               | are literally losing tens of billions of dollars, and I
               | believe they are going to lose several times more within
               | the next week.
               | 
               | The short sellers are overleveraged right now, and unless
               | they find some bullshit way to fuck everybody (people are
               | switching away from RobinHood in droves) then they are
               | going to not just lose more money, but go insolvent.
               | 
               | I don't know what's going to happen, and rumors are
               | Melvin is about to get a giant capital infusion, but it
               | really seems like the short sellers are the ones that are
               | fucked and believing otherwise is ignoring data and
               | simply assuming nothing ever changes. The fact that
               | they're doubling down is a sign of desperation, not
               | strength. It's like saying Lehman Brothers can never lose
               | money in 2008.
        
               | stouset wrote:
               | > What the hell are you talking about? The short sellers
               | are literally losing tens of billions of dollars, and I
               | believe they are going to lose several times more within
               | the next week.
               | 
               | Yes, Melvin is losing their shirts.
               | 
               | But if you accept that the price _is_ going to go down,
               | and sharply at that, then _somebody_ is going to make an
               | absolute killing here from a short position when the
               | price inevitably craters. And that amount will utterly
               | dwarf the gains from WSB redditors, mostly coming at
               | their expense.
               | 
               | There's orders of magnitude more money to be made today
               | shorting $GME at $400 than there was shorting it at $20.
        
               | Judgmentality wrote:
               | > There's orders of magnitude more money to be made today
               | shorting $GME at $400 than there was shorting it at $20.
               | 
               | There's also orders of magnitude more money to be lost,
               | because there's just more money on the table. At the end
               | of the day it's a bet based on assumptions. A month ago
               | everybody that was investing in GME was told the same
               | thing by people that wanted to short it.
               | 
               | The market can remain irrational longer than you can
               | remain solvent.
        
               | stouset wrote:
               | > There's also orders of magnitude more money to be lost,
               | because there's just more money on the table.
               | 
               | And my point is that the losing side of this is
               | inevitably going to be the majority of people long $GME.
               | 
               | > The market can remain irrational longer than you can
               | remain solvent.
               | 
               | Billionaires can remain solvent longer than you can
               | remain irrational.
               | 
               | Again, Melvin is almost certain to lose their shirts on
               | this. But there's many, many more hedge funds that are
               | sharks circling the waters. And Melvin and WSB are _both_
               | going to be their prey.
        
               | Judgmentality wrote:
               | > Billionaires can remain solvent longer than you can
               | remain irrational.
               | 
               | Melvin Capital has a very real chance of going insolvent.
               | Also have you heard of Lehman Brothers? Hell, just
               | watching Cramer get upset is enough for me to realize the
               | rich aren't happy with what's happening. It seems pretty
               | obvious they're worried. Why else would they pay for ads
               | claiming to have closed a position for which they
               | supposedly no longer have an investment stake?
               | 
               | > And my point is that the losing side of this is
               | inevitably going to be the majority of people long $GME.
               | 
               | I said the same thing about TSLA way back when. So did
               | David Einhorn. I still believe TSLA is more than 10x
               | overvalued, and people continue to get rich despite my
               | "rational" obstinance.
               | 
               | Also you're completely missing the point. Do you not even
               | understand most of these people aren't trying to make
               | money? If you don't understand that, then you don't even
               | have a basis to start the conversation.
        
               | PartiallyTyped wrote:
               | > There's orders of magnitude more money to be made today
               | shorting $GME at $400 than there was shorting it at $20.
               | 
               | I have been running scenarios of this in my head over the
               | previous days. This play would be to short while the
               | squeeze is near closure and force the remaining shorts to
               | purchase your stock. The problem with this play is that
               | eventually you need to cover, albeit at much lower price,
               | unless, of course, the bag holders i.e. remaining retail
               | isn't willing to sell to you at a lower price, so you can
               | never close. If anyone else attempts to short at the
               | rebounded prices, you can close your position, but this
               | becomes a perpetual game of hot potato. For this play to
               | you work, you need to assume the retail will paper hand,
               | but if WSB is any indication, WSB can, as they put it,
               | stay retarded longer than you can stay solvent and if
               | they don't paper hand at those prices, they won't give it
               | to you that easy.
               | 
               | The alternative play, is to make a deal with other firms
               | where you rotate who owes the shares and you share the
               | profits from shorting the top, but I suppose that
               | constitutes market manipulation. If we were to assume
               | that the market moves up and the profits can be
               | reinvested and profit more than the interest, this play
               | makes the most sense.
               | 
               | These two plays assume that all the floating shares are
               | held by WSB, and if that is true; the bag holders will be
               | people willing to let the prices literally moon. Then the
               | only solution would be to wait for GME to issue more
               | shares. The most plausible case is that WSB will be the
               | ones holding the shares when it eventually squeezes and
               | the shorts need to cover since all others in retail would
               | have already sold.
               | 
               | This isn't a particularly good position for anyone to be
               | in because no institution will be selling and nobody will
               | be buying, so you will end up with a staring contest
               | between you and WSB, and if the past few days are any
               | indication, your only bet is your profits outweigh the
               | interest.
               | 
               | If you can imagine the actual play executing in a
               | scenario where WSB doesn't hold you by the ..., please
               | share, I am interested.
        
         | HenryBemis wrote:
         | >Taleb talked
         | 
         | Only because I happen to just starting reading this 4 books
         | [0-3] motohagiography (word-depipction-of-saints?), and until
         | 2-3 weeks ago I am ashamed to say I didn't even know who that
         | was:
         | 
         | Nassim Nicholas Taleb.
         | 
         | [0-3]: Antifragile, The Black Swan, Fooled By Randomness, The
         | Bed of Procrustes
        
           | motohagiography wrote:
           | Same Taleb. I recommend reading his books back to front
           | because he's clearly difficult to edit and starting at the
           | end means you don't have to go through the process of
           | listening to him sound his ideas out. Most non-fiction works
           | that way. If you only read his "Bed of Procrustes," and a
           | selection of his technical papers, you'd be both better off,
           | and following most of his advice.
           | 
           | A hagiography is a story that exalts the life of a saint. An
           | "autohagiography," is what some writers call a shamelessly
           | self-aggrandizing memoir. Motohagiography was a play on
           | writing about motorcycles in a self-aggrandizing way, but
           | could be extended to other technology. But thank you for
           | giving it some thought!
        
           | Jommi wrote:
           | and each book just re-iterates the same things. Gets old
           | fast.
        
         | genuine_smiles wrote:
         | What's better to invest in once you have 50k?
        
         | punnerud wrote:
         | I love how Reddit (and HN) enable fast sharing, fact checking
         | of information and lifting ideas.
         | 
         | When it comes to increase luck surface I think Clubhouse maybe
         | will become one of the most important platforms.
         | 
         | GME case seems to exploit the possibility for "short attack" by
         | flipping the table into a infinite price increase, because the
         | hedge funds accidentally created more fake shares that there is
         | shares in existence and now have to by back.
         | 
         | Short attack = Using the possibility brokers have to artificial
         | creating fake shares to drive down the price, in combination
         | with shorting stocks for earning money.
         | 
         | More detailed explanation:
         | https://seekingalpha.com/instablog/11442671-gerald-klein/309...
         | 
         | The combination of Clubhouse and Reddit will probably be one of
         | the most important "inventions" this decade. Where GME could
         | wake up everyone?
        
           | sgpl wrote:
           | I'm actually not super bullish on clubhouse. I'm sure they'll
           | find some success but to call it something that will become
           | one of the most important platforms, I don't see it. And
           | perhaps I'll be proven wrong in the next decade on this.
           | 
           | I've recently started using twitter again (after initially
           | using it in 2010/2011) and I feel that there's so much self
           | promotion all the time disguised at knowledge sharing. It
           | also seems like everyone (most people) have a podcast, a
           | newsletter, a youtube channel, etc. I understand that on a
           | surface level people are doing this to increase their
           | 'surface area' but there's just too much and while I'm sure
           | it does a some/a lot of good for the people putting it out
           | there, most of it just seems like noise to me. So that's my
           | reasoning to think that clubhouse won't really become as
           | meaningful as you - it just adds more noise. Sure I can
           | hangout in this room or listen to some folks talk about x/y/z
           | topic, etc. but honestly I feel that after some time people
           | will realize that their time could be better spent.
        
           | YZF wrote:
           | Not too sure about the "fact" side of things. But the
           | Internet has created opportunities for all sorts of people to
           | get together faster than ever for all sorts of things.
           | 
           | You don't need >100% short interest for a shorted stock to go
           | to infinity. A single share can do that. If I own all the
           | shares, and you borrowed a single share and sold it back to
           | me... well, good luck. Also these sort of attacks aren't
           | really new. Short squeeze has happened before and various
           | other similar ideas (attacking someone with leveraged
           | positions or otherwise risky positions, including
           | currencies). The interesting bit here is IMO the way these
           | people, at least temporarily, acted together. Also the way
           | the hedge funds couldn't grok that like they surely would if
           | they were under attack from a more standard player.
        
           | gwnwest21 wrote:
           | Hedge Funds managers have infinite resources and are working
           | with Data Firms to prevent this from getting out of control
           | again. These firms will use AI to scout social media
           | platforms chatter and report back in real time what stocks
           | are gaining momentum with retail investors.
           | 
           | https://www.marketwatch.com/story/wall-street-looks-for-
           | ways...
           | 
           | https://www.ft.com/content/04477ee8-0af2-4f0f-a331-298744489.
           | ..
        
             | ClumsyPilot wrote:
             | They also have bots posting shit encouraging people to sell
             | 
             | Also, whats 'Infinite resources?'
        
         | dehrmann wrote:
         | > the economy doesn't provide anything better to invest in for
         | under $50k
         | 
         | What's wrong with index funds? Real estate isn't everything.
        
           | fnimick wrote:
           | I think the underlying assumption, which wasn't spelled out
           | in the parent, is that any amount of money under $super-rich
           | is similar amounts of worthless. If you genuinely believe
           | that, then high-risk swings at a big payday make more logical
           | sense than a low-risk gradual growth strategy.
           | 
           | I've heard friends express this - if you don't have $1
           | million +, you're just varying degrees of poor - so there's
           | no point at gradual growth from 20k to 50k and etc when
           | you're just as miserable. Might as well risk it all to try to
           | get to the big time, since they don't see a reasonable path
           | to growing gradually to anywhere worth living.
        
         | tomfast wrote:
         | Interesting comment.
         | 
         | Would you explain a little more about what you mean by
         | "diversified parts of it" in "you naturally orient to getting
         | exposure to opportunity for diversified parts of it, but when
         | you have a scarcity view, your decisions are necessarily
         | all/nothing"?
        
         | Nevermark wrote:
         | I hate to say "Bitcoin" because of its high risk, short track
         | record, volatility, faddish aura, etc, but:
         | 
         | I believe it's filling a gap beyond being a better gold-like
         | asset. Better gold = digitally portable, 24 hr liquidity,
         | digital literate friendly, fixed cap, transactions (even with
         | its limits), decentralized control, etc.
         | 
         | But the solidly fixed cap is more profound than I think most
         | people recognize. Potentially, once Bitcoin finds its "true"
         | price, it will continue to grow in value in proportion to all
         | wealth in the economy - over the long run. So it won't just be
         | a hedge against downturns, but eventually a semi-stable way of
         | sharing in overall increasing wealth in the economy.
         | 
         | I don't know of another instrument that anyone can easily buy
         | that might track (over the long run) with global wealth as
         | apposed to particular entities or particular aspects of the
         | economy.
         | 
         | So in that sense, anyone can participate in overall wealth
         | growth. A very useful new tool!
         | 
         | OF COURSE, this is SPECULATION on my part. But I think the idea
         | of a total global wealth correlated asset is new and useful.
        
           | dehrmann wrote:
           | > fixed cap
           | 
           | This makes it more like a collectable (say, baseball cards)
           | than a currency. The number is capped and some will be lost.
           | It has value as long as people are interested in it--scarcity
           | does not imply value.
           | 
           | It also has a short track record and could run into issues if
           | miners collude, there's a DDoS attack, or someone with a lot
           | of resources reverses transactions, hurting confidence in it.
        
       | xyzelement wrote:
       | An Israeli entrepreneur once introduced me to the idea of "the
       | adjacent possible" - meaning, as you progress to "the next point"
       | - the possibilities connected to that point are available to you.
       | 
       | Somewhere else, I read the definition of "intelligence" as that
       | which maximizes its future options.
       | 
       | I think both things hit at the same idea of "surface area of
       | luck". We think of luck as "a good opportunity you can take
       | advantage of" - if you become someone who can take advantage of
       | more opportunities, you become luckier.
       | 
       | Some of the strategies that helped me (none of them are
       | intentional):
       | 
       | - Never passing up an opportunity to learn - whether new skill or
       | new degree or new industry or a new personal challenge. As Steve
       | Jobs said, sometimes you don't learn until later how the dots
       | connect to what you eventually do.
       | 
       | - Diversifying my experience. EG: 13~ years ago I was a "senior
       | software developer." Since then, I had been a "development
       | manager", a "product manager" and also for a time a "senior
       | software developer" again. When I lost my job a few months ago, I
       | was able to look at opportunities along all 3 of these job
       | tracks, whereas if I had stayed in the single track, I'd have 1/3
       | the options.
       | 
       | - Ditto to industries. Until now, everything I did was in
       | finance, so I intentionally found a role outside of finance,
       | because I could always go back to it if I need to, but now I am
       | proving to myself (and to my resume) that I can cross industries
       | and work anywhere. That again increases. your surface area.
       | 
       | - Have a diverse network, for example find a way to connect with
       | young talented people where you are (first job, university)
       | because they will disperse throughout the world and may do cool
       | things and you may want to do those things with them, or they can
       | just help you. It has been amazing how much people that I had
       | barely connected with when we worked together were willing to
       | help when I needed a referral/advice/whatever.
       | 
       | - I'll call this one out separately: help people. Make time to
       | mentor people, help them get jobs, put in a good word, whatever.
       | Not everyone will "pay you back" but it doesn't matter, the
       | reputation of "xyzelement's a good guy, he's generally helpful"
       | means the world, especially as you become more senior.
       | 
       | - Be the dumbest guy in the room. You grow more when being
       | surrounded by those who can challenge you uncomfortably. Pick the
       | right room. Comfort = death.
       | 
       | - Troubleshoot your mind. Most of us are held back by stupid
       | hangups. For example, most developers I know could be overall way
       | more successful if they got over shyness/fear of public speaking.
       | Figure out why you fear whatever you fear, and work to get over
       | it. Imagine you didn't go for your dream job because it has some
       | minute attribute that you pointlessly fear.
       | 
       | - Check your language. If you find that "they" are responsible
       | for what's happening to you, you have given away all your power.
       | Figure out how "you" are responsible for where you and and what
       | opportunities "you" have, and then own it and act.
        
       | KineticLensman wrote:
       | I'll stick with the proverbial Seneca: "Luck is what happens when
       | preparation meets opportunity."
       | 
       | Which is actually a generalization of the author's (relatively
       | narrow) thesis where 'opportunity' depends primarily on the
       | people that you meet and the 'preparation' is being passionate
       | about something.
        
         | king_magic wrote:
         | A previous manager of mine told me that same quote years ago.
         | It's never left me, and has always been a valuable way to look
         | at the world.
        
         | Closi wrote:
         | I think this is roughly the same thesis with different words -
         | preparation = doing and telling = creating opportunities.
        
           | dade_ wrote:
           | Except Seneca said this 2000 years ago and used far fewer
           | words than this blog post.
        
       | binbag wrote:
       | Do things you're keen on? Deep.
        
       | soared wrote:
       | I really really dislike the idea that everything you do needs to
       | be multiplied by networking. Not everything is entrepreneurship,
       | not everyone is looking to meet people to accomplish x.
       | 
       | I had hoped this article was something unique, but one paragraph
       | in and it's more growth hacking nonsense.
        
       | baxtr wrote:
       | I just love the positive tone of this article. There is so much
       | hope and positivism. I find it energizing.
        
       | colanderman wrote:
       | (2010). There's since been much discussion of this post here, and
       | generalization to other aspects of life. E.g. I remember the
       | example, if your goal is to date a model, start hanging out in
       | places (cafes/bars) where models hang out.
        
       | villasv wrote:
       | > When you pour energy into a passion, you develop an expertise
       | and an expertise of any kind is valuable
       | 
       | I don't disagree with the overall spirit, but these Paul Graham
       | aphorisms always turn me off.
       | 
       | > To satisfy my mathematically oriented brain I've gone one step
       | further and formalized the concept into the equation L = D * T,
       | where L is luck, D is doing and T is telling.
       | 
       | See? There's no passion here. It really isn't relevant to what is
       | being discussed.
       | 
       | Sure, passion is great. The more the better, the world is
       | incredible when you're surrounded by it. Developers are fond of
       | writing beautiful code, I am one of those too. But god damn, hold
       | the inner coach and remember y'all are not psychologists. There
       | is no reason to reduce the multitude of complex motivations to a
       | single amorphous concept such as passion.
        
         | jonnycomputer wrote:
         | It is funny, because D * T suggests that it can all be done
         | with D with just a smidgin' of T, or that you can just do a lot
         | of talking with just a smidgin' of D.
         | 
         | But I guess I forgot about the Trump Presidency. So maybe D * T
         | is the right model.
        
       | choxi wrote:
       | Product-market fit often has an element of luck, otherwise
       | someone else would have found the opportunity already. So this is
       | really good advice for anyone working on a startup, it's sort of
       | another way of saying the classic YC advice that you should be
       | "building things and talking to customers".
       | 
       | I really like this mental model, one thing I've noticed about my
       | failed startup attempts is that I did a lot of "doing" but not
       | "telling".
        
         | Closi wrote:
         | I think that's a slightly different thesis - I think this one
         | is more about 'lucky breaks' I.e. Microsoft selling its first
         | basic compiler, vs finding your product market fit.
        
       | postit wrote:
       | I struggle a lot with advertising my work outside the company.
       | 
       | I'm the kind of engineer that will get anything done regardless
       | of the tech (or people/process) complexity, and I always end up
       | watching someone else in the team going to conferences to present
       | my work.
       | 
       | Random reasons random, but mostly because my inner klout is way
       | bigger than my outer persona.
        
         | ghaff wrote:
         | Do you not want to be the person presenting or are you being
         | prevented from doing so for whatever reason. (And if the reason
         | is something like presentation skills, do you care enough to do
         | something about it?)
        
       | kharak wrote:
       | Being passionate about something for a long time (not just a
       | couple of hours or weeks) seems to be a rare quality. Too bad for
       | those who lack it, as it seems to be a requirement for success in
       | everything. There are so many posts that try to tell you how to
       | get the most out of your passion, I haven't seen one that
       | explains the origin of passion or whether it is possible to
       | become passionate.
        
         | EGreg wrote:
         | Here is a comment:
         | 
         | Passion is a direct result of three things:
         | 
         | 1. Awareness of a major problem that affects a lot of people
         | 
         | 2. Becoming convinced of a certain solution that is currently
         | not being implemented
         | 
         | 3. Having your needs met for a long time, also known as
         | financial freedom
         | 
         | To the extent you find people with 1 and 3, you can recruit
         | them with 2.
        
         | abdullahkhalids wrote:
         | I think you are switching the order of things. Passion often
         | comes after doing something for a long time. The trick is that
         | you have to mindfully analyze what parts you enjoy about the
         | thing, and how you can enjoy or tolerate the parts you don't
         | like.
        
         | mettamage wrote:
         | What also isn't talked about:
         | 
         | __Burnout and Passions__
         | 
         | Here's a comparison: I once build a computer graphics engine in
         | 2 weeks and a few years prior I played WoW for 2 weeks.
         | 
         | In both cases I spent between 16 to 20 hours per day on it. I
         | got ill, had an angry girlfriend (in the computer graphics
         | timeline), and I did everything I wanted to do (it was done).
         | 
         | __Passions and Interests__
         | 
         | I have a genuine interest in security. Once every year I become
         | super passionate about hacking/red teaming for 2 months. I'm
         | like a cat in heat or something, but then with security. I play
         | hackthebox, I follow security courses and clock 12 to 16 hours
         | per day on it, 7 days per week. Converted to working days, that
         | is around 5 months of working days.
         | 
         | Yet, people mistake this as me having a passion for it. I can
         | assure you, if the article is technical and I'm in the other 10
         | months, I'd need to apply quite some self-control and
         | discipline to be able to read it.
         | 
         | __It's not always the subject__
         | 
         | I have this weird trait. Whatever my friends are interested in,
         | can become a passion of mine. One requirement: I need to do it
         | with them. If I do and I'm having a positive interaction with
         | my friend, then I'm passionate about it. However, I know it's
         | not the subject, it's simply being with that friend. I figured
         | it out by first noticing this in video games. It turns out I
         | don't care about video games, I simply care playing them with
         | friends. It turns out, it's true for all activities I have an
         | interest in.
         | 
         | __Passions and linking to other topics__
         | 
         | I love imagining music. It's a compulsion I had since I was 4.
         | Because of this, I quite like making music as well. However, I
         | also like not being poor. I've seen quite a few poor musicians,
         | so I've never focused too much on my music creation and I think
         | that's quite a sad fact about my life.
         | 
         |  _But!_ It turns out, that (web) app development for things
         | that I find cool or useful scratches exactly the same itch. So
         | that means that passions are wider than your interest alone. It
         | turns out that passions might be able to transfer to other
         | passions if they have the same properties.
         | 
         | Unfortunately, I don't feel passionate about (web) app
         | development for corporations. This is mostly because a lot of
         | the creative freedom isn't there, but when you make your own
         | stuff it is there.
         | 
         | ---
         | 
         | My 2 cents.
        
           | asimjalis wrote:
           | I found your introspection valuable. I work as a presales
           | engineer. When a customer has a problem and is stuck on
           | something I become obsessed with it. But as soon as we have a
           | fix or a workaround I lose interest in the area. This makes
           | it hard to generalize the solution or publish it as a blog
           | post.
        
         | m463 wrote:
         | "stop starting and start finishing"
         | 
         | On the other hand, we have so little time here. Who's to say
         | whether narrow and deep is always more rewarding than broad and
         | shallow?
         | 
         | You know, be mindful of doing the wrong thing well instead of
         | the right thing poorly.
         | 
         | So learn to forgive ourselves for pursuing things that fizzle
         | out or lose our interest. Leave space to preserve passion to
         | the benefit of our health and happiness. More interests might
         | also mean more opportunities to align shared passions with
         | others.
        
         | pototo666 wrote:
         | I haven't seen one that explains the origin of passion or
         | whether it is possible to become passionate.
         | 
         | ---
         | 
         | As Bezos said, you can't choose your passion, your passion
         | chooses you.
        
           | rmelhem wrote:
           | yep, i suddenly felt in love with music after my dad passed
           | away - was in college studying materials engineering, and
           | made a living out of music for 6 years (until the pandemics)
        
           | OrbitRock wrote:
           | Scott Alexander's the lottery of fascinations is a good read
           | in this area: https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/06/30/the-
           | lottery-of-fascina...
        
             | pototo666 wrote:
             | Good read, thanks for sharing :).
             | 
             | I will keep the article in case one day I want to persuade
             | my child to love math.
        
           | etrautmann wrote:
           | I disagree - passion can emerge after you're much deeper into
           | something. I liked building things but wasn't passionate
           | about engineering until my last year in undergrad. It took
           | 3-4 years of grinding away uncertainly until I had enough
           | skill to make it really fun and interesting. That knowledge
           | snowballs.
           | 
           | Plenty of people are passionate about work which appears
           | arcane. Few of them started with that.
        
             | jlevers wrote:
             | Cal Newport has a book that discusses this this called So
             | Good They Can't Ignore You, which I found really
             | interesting. His thesis is basically that the people who
             | are most satisfied with their work are those who stuck with
             | something until they got really good at it, regardless of
             | whether it was the topic they were "most passionate" about
             | (passion can be fickle, IMO).
        
             | pototo666 wrote:
             | Agree with what you said.
             | 
             | Liking is also a great signal for passion. If we like
             | something, we are more likely to do it for years and then
             | have the passion. I don't think we can choose what we like.
             | 
             | There are of couses cases when children are forced to do
             | something early and later fall in love with it.
        
         | vincentmarle wrote:
         | > Being passionate about something for a long time ... seems to
         | be a requirement for success in everything.
         | 
         | There's a book that attempts to debunk this myth by making the
         | case that generalists are typically more successful:
         | https://www.gatesnotes.com/Books/Range
        
           | mojoe wrote:
           | There's a difference between being passionate about a
           | skillset and passionate about a field. For instance, I can be
           | passionate about renewable energy and still be a generalist
           | in terms of my day-to-day work.
        
         | analyst74 wrote:
         | Opposite of passion is contentment, which is also very
         | desirable for many.
         | 
         | You just can't have both, because with a burning passion, comes
         | a sense of imperfection and constant struggle to get better but
         | never enough, or worse, fear of decay and irrelevance, an
         | inevitable outcome as one ages.
        
           | nicbou wrote:
           | You can be passionate and content.
           | 
           | There are plenty of passionate artists, athletes and
           | engineers who don't care about going pro, getting famous or
           | changing the world.
           | 
           | For example, I'm passionate about software development, but I
           | make simple things that don't matter. I'm passionate about
           | cooking, but only for myself and the occasional guest. I'm
           | also passionate about the website I live from, but I don't
           | worry much about its growth.
           | 
           | I like to build stuff, but I don't want an audience or its
           | recognition. I don't want users nor money. I just do it
           | because it's nice.
        
             | Judgmentality wrote:
             | I think this is just a simple semantics distinction.
             | 
             | I believe what you mean by passion is interest, and what OP
             | means by passion is drive. I think you're discussing
             | slightly different things.
             | 
             | I don't believe it is possible to be driven and satisfied
             | at the same time. But I believe it is possible to be
             | interested and content simultaneously.
        
       | moron4hire wrote:
       | I would say this is exactly how I was able to pivot out of web
       | and database development into VR development[0]. I spent a lot of
       | time going out to meetups when I first started getting into VR.
       | Meeting people, talking to people. Eventually, I started showing
       | people the stuff I was building. That led to getting asked to do
       | talks at the meetups about the stuff I was building. That led to
       | more contacts. I ended up making friends with folks who would one
       | day make the connections that got me my current job.
       | 
       | Incidentally, when folks at my current employer started talking
       | about hiring someone for my role, they kept running into people
       | who knew me and had a high opinion of me.
       | 
       | Networking works in many directions. But it only works if you
       | don't go into it looking for it to work. I think the big key was
       | that I wasn't out to gladhand with folks. I was just out to make
       | friends over a shared passion. It gives an authenticity to your
       | speech that people can see.
       | 
       | [0] Which now has a big web and database component, all in
       | service to the VR app that I'm building.
        
       | sigmaprimus wrote:
       | I'm not sure the variable of how many other people I tell about
       | my passion has an effect of its success.
       | 
       | I have several passions and many ventures based on them.
       | 
       | I believe "A farmer has as much luck as he has seeds in the
       | ground" regardless of how many people are involved. I my case
       | "seeds" are ventures that I start based on my passions, many will
       | wither but some will do well and a few do great.
       | 
       | The great ones seem to draw others to get involved even when I
       | try to keep them low key.
        
       | pototo666 wrote:
       | I like this idea. It's simple and elegant.
       | 
       | I am accidentally practising it.
       | 
       | I make games. I tried and failed to get investement and partners.
       | 
       | So I am making games alone. Last week I started streaming my
       | daily work. I stream my the other screen display, such that I can
       | decide what to show and what to hide.
       | 
       | I told myself, streaming cost me no money and I might attract
       | attention of partners and investors. Nothing unfold yet. But I
       | would continue.
        
         | _jjkk wrote:
         | I have seen multiple indie developers successfully begin
         | marketing on their unfinished / unremarkable prototype far in
         | advance. In fact some of them get so popular they pivot into "I
         | make videos of myself making games" instead of "I make games"
         | 
         | I would recommend doubling up exposure by recording your
         | streams, then cutting up the best clips and releasing them as
         | Youtube videos. Also posting these Youtube videos to Reddit
         | when possible (obviously following their self-promotion rules)
         | 
         | Here is an example channel:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEhOhNgoZHI
        
           | pototo666 wrote:
           | Recoding stream is a good idea! Thanks for this concrete
           | advice and example :))
        
       | williamonill wrote:
       | I think this equation completely forgets to take into account the
       | power of the people you tell about your ideas. If you are
       | studying in Stanford and can literally walk into the office of
       | professor X and tell him about your ideas (which worked pretty
       | well for Elizabeth Holmes and professor Channing Robertson but
       | that's a different story) you have an enormous competitive
       | advantage. And if you have a Stanford professor on your side,
       | it's pretty easy to open doors to other influential people.
       | 
       | On the other hand, if you tell your idea some stranger on the
       | Internet... chances are much lower that you will find the right
       | people.
        
       | freshpots wrote:
       | This is an excellent video from Veritasium that discusses luck as
       | a factor of success: https://youtu.be/3LopI4YeC4I
        
       | ldbooth wrote:
       | I like the visual of a surface area. It adds to how I think about
       | it... The equation for luck similar as luck being the compounding
       | interest component and over time, compounding itself with
       | consistent doing. Compounding applies to many things, but take a
       | business, years in business and word of mouth/experience is a
       | form of compounding customers/revenue. Same for luck and doing
       | something consistently with enthusiasm.
        
       | hwestiii wrote:
       | Louis Pasteur figured this out in the 19th century. "Chance
       | favors the prepared mind."
        
       | brudgers wrote:
       | A theory that only works for people who are lucky enough to be
       | surrounded by supportive people.
       | 
       | Some people have the misfortune to know people whose usual
       | reaction is throwing sand in other people's gears. People who
       | crap on other people's plans.
       | 
       | Just as good luck can compound, so can bad luck.
        
         | umvi wrote:
         | > A theory that only works for people who are lucky enough to
         | be surrounded by supportive people.
         | 
         | It's possible to change who surrounds you. By socializing in
         | new bubbles, making new friends, or just plain moving to a new
         | location.
        
           | Shared404 wrote:
           | With enough bad luck, it's possibly to never have the
           | opportunity to make those changes.
        
             | doctorhandshake wrote:
             | That's what the internet is for!
        
           | TheCowboy wrote:
           | This is also possible, but it's also something where luck,
           | personal resources, and experience play a role in determining
           | how successful such changes will be.
        
           | brudgers wrote:
           | Whether or not that works is a matter of luck. Part of that
           | luck is the recognition that the people close are
           | unsupportive and knowledge that there are supportive people.
           | 
           | If someone has had the bad luck of growing up surrounded by
           | unsupportive people, the recognition and knowledge don't
           | occur naturally.
           | 
           | The problem of long term socialization with assholes is that
           | a person tends to be socialized to being an asshole. That
           | facilitates new friendships with new assholes more than it
           | facilitates new friendships with non-assholes. It facilitates
           | socializing in asshole rich bubbles...etc.
        
         | mish33 wrote:
         | Bad luck may follow the same formula: what you did wrong times
         | how many people that affected.
        
       | mrandish wrote:
       | The concept in the post is something I've observed in my own life
       | and the lives of others. The article highlights that it's just
       | not "doing" but doing something you are "passionate" about. I get
       | a little stuck on that word because it evokes the "follow your
       | passions" type of advice which can be taken the wrong way. Here I
       | think the key is it's not just "doing" _anything_ but rather
       | something you care enough about to at least try to do well. In
       | other words, you 're putting attention and energy into it. This
       | tends to be something others notice because it's authentic.
       | 
       | The other thing which seems to elevate outcomes in this context
       | is not just "telling" people as measured by quantity but also by
       | quality. Just sharing with large numbers of people may work but
       | trying to share with those who also "do" things will reach those
       | most likely to care about what you're doing, the way you're doing
       | it or even just that you're "doing" things with genuine personal
       | investment. When I see that, it usually stands out and I'm much
       | more likely to want to engage with that person.
        
       | carrozo wrote:
       | I've had this old post from Marc Andreessen pinned in my mental
       | browser for a long time now. There are four types of luck and you
       | can influence three of them:
       | 
       |  _Chance I is completely impersonal; you can 't influence it._
       | 
       |  _Chance II favors those who have a persistent curiosity about
       | many things coupled with an energetic willingness to experiment
       | and explore._
       | 
       |  _Chance III favors those who have a sufficient background of
       | sound knowledge plus special abilities in observing, remembering,
       | recalling, and quickly forming significant new associations._
       | 
       |  _Chance IV favors those with distinctive, if not eccentric
       | hobbies, personal lifestyles, and motor behaviors._
       | 
       | https://pmarchive.com/luck_and_the_entrepreneur.html
        
         | rexreed wrote:
         | Of all those kinds of chance, the kind that you can really
         | prepare for is really only Chance-type III.
         | 
         | Chance I is truly deus-ex-machina stuff you can't foresee nor
         | plan for.
         | 
         | Chance II encourages randomness and serendipity, but those who
         | lack the ability of discernment and proper focus risk being
         | ADHD never focusing enough on anything to capture any
         | opportunity, should it even emerge.
         | 
         | Chance III rewards those who have deepened their knowledge and
         | have stubborn persistence to weather the inevitable rough
         | patches. Because if it's not rough, then it's too obvious, and
         | if it's too obvious, there's no real upside opportunity. You
         | can plan for Chance III and prepare yourself for this.
         | 
         | Chance IV is black swan. It is the rarest of conditions where
         | an eccentric hobby results in significant upside. You can't
         | plan for this, and if you do pursue an eccentric hobby you
         | should do it out of pure personal interest rather than planning
         | for a black swan upside opportunity.
         | 
         | I have a feeling Marc Andreesen would consider himself to be
         | Chance II or Chance III. And I question if his "luck" can truly
         | be attributable to Chance II but rather his ability to "will"
         | his fortune into being by virtue of being in Chance III.
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | And he really owes much of his fortune to Chance I. Right
           | capabilities/decisions but right place/time.
        
       | the-dude wrote:
       | I practice this in billiards/carambole ( 3 balls, no pockets ).
       | 
       | I try to avoid 'perpendicular' approaches, instead opting for
       | shots with big angles, even if they are technically more
       | difficult.
       | 
       | This literally translates into a larger area where I have the
       | chance to touch the 3rd ball.
        
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