[HN Gopher] Sex, scandal and high society in Chips Channon's unc...
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       Sex, scandal and high society in Chips Channon's uncensored diaries
        
       Author : Petiver
       Score  : 36 points
       Date   : 2021-03-05 05:46 UTC (17 hours ago)
        
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       | solidsnack9000 wrote:
       | It's funny and strange but these kind of personal-as-political
       | theories have a strange currency among those who are
       | simultaneously so powerful and so ill-prepared.
       | 
       |  _Later still, this self-analysis by the man whose friends called
       | him "wicked boy" leads Channon to the most extraordinary
       | political theory. He is analysing the division in London between
       | pro-democracy politicians and the pro-Nazis. And on 29 May 1936
       | he decides he finally understands what is going on: "It is
       | curious the division of racial mentality, and it reduces itself
       | to a question of sex; all people, whether male or female, who are
       | attracted by men and force are pro-German. The 'softies' like
       | Hubert Duggan, who make a cult of female-worship, are pro-French.
       | Duff Cooper, who adores women to an almost insane pitch, and is
       | always trying to rape them in taxis etc, is immeasurably pro-
       | French. Sometimes I wonder whether he is not also a bit pro-
       | war?"_
       | 
       |  _Nobody who was worried about their future reputation would
       | leave a pair of sentences like that lying around._
       | 
       |  _We don't read diarists because we admire them, but because they
       | were there, and they note down what they saw and heard. "Chips"
       | Channon was wrong about almost everything. But do we read
       | Boswell, Casanova, Pepys, Alan Clark or even Sasha Swire for
       | their judgement? We do not. We read them to be taken aback, and
       | to question ourselves. Exhausting, massive, genuinely shocking,
       | and still revelatory, this new edition of the Channon diaries is
       | a work of irrigation and genuine scholarship. Few people may read
       | them from cover to cover, but the stories they contain will
       | rattle noisily around our culture for decades ahead._
        
         | pjc50 wrote:
         | A pretty much ubiquitous observation there, that fascim appeals
         | to machismo and vice versa. The "female worship" sentence is
         | surprising by the standard of today but I imagine that being
         | "normal" until the 60s, perhaps.
         | 
         | Interesting that even in 1936 the distinction is French vs
         | German; Czechoslovakia and Poland were just trophies to be
         | acquired in the dispute between the great powers.
        
       | neonate wrote:
       | https://archive.is/UOoz3
        
       | tpmx wrote:
       | The UK also had a very large amount of communist spies/traitors:
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:British_spies_for_the...
        
       | airhead969 wrote:
       | Conservatives (Tories) revering Hitler. Is that a politically-
       | touchy issue, a Godwin's law-ism, or an exception to each?
       | 
       | Btw, I don't know the workings of 1930's and 1940's British
       | society, but were these the type of people who condoned turning
       | away the Jews of the SS Exodus?
       | 
       | Edit: To be fair, the US turned away the MS St. Louis, of which
       | 1/3 of the passengers were subsequently killed.
        
         | pjc50 wrote:
         | It's one of those things which becomes clear if you look at the
         | sourced history, but people who believe in the version of
         | Britishness taught at school refuse to contemplate.
         | 
         | Overt Nazism was certainly present; not just Rothermere and the
         | Mail, but people like
         | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_Mitford and Oswald
         | Moseley.
        
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