[HN Gopher] Show HN: Relocate.me - get your next tech job abroad
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Show HN: Relocate.me - get your next tech job abroad
Author : andrewstetsenko
Score : 79 points
Date : 2021-03-05 19:10 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| dvirsky wrote:
| The annual salary in the calculator goes up to $140,000 for the
| US. This needs to be way higher if we're talking Bay Area.
| andrewstetsenko wrote:
| Thanks for the feedback! In your opinion, what would be a
| realistic figure for the Bay Area?
| dvirsky wrote:
| I found this survey: https://www.builtinsf.com/salaries/dev-
| engineer/senior-softw...
|
| Average for senior engineers is around $200K, upper limit
| towards $300K.
|
| Why not just make it open to typing in the sum, at least
| optionally?
| andrewstetsenko wrote:
| We'll think about it, many thanks!
| julienb_sea wrote:
| https://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=google&year=2020
|
| Median base salary at google is 149, and there are plenty of
| offers in the 200-400 range with outliers well above that.
| From personal experience 140 is on the low range for 3 years
| experience in the major US tech markets (Seattle, Bay,
| Austin)
| fakename9876543 wrote:
| Don't forget us network engineers who want to move abroad :)
| Would love to see a category for that
| andrewstetsenko wrote:
| We won't. Handpicking jobs with relocation assistance takes
| quite a lot of time, but will do our best to expand the list of
| available job offering as much and fast as possible
| beeforpork wrote:
| Is there also 'dontrelocate.me' for my next remote tech job
| abroad?
| awaythro15234 wrote:
| I've been thinking of relocating for a while, but also feel a
| sort of guilt about it. I must admit that the main reason for my
| doing it is that I feel increasingly disillusioned with the
| United States, where the paths of both the "left" and the "right"
| seem equally disappointing. There is a deep sense of social
| malaise that I feel, while here, and I cannot help but attribute
| it to that form of neoliberalism that is spreading across the
| world. And so I feel that my migration would be not so different
| than the spread of a pestilence of sorts, infecting what I hope
| will save me.
|
| I am reminded of Society of the Spectacle, specifically thesis
| 165.
|
| 165 Capitalist production has unified space, breaking down the
| boundaries between one society and the next. This unification is
| at the same time an extensive and intensive process of
| banalization. Just as the accumulation of commodities mass-
| produced for the abstract space of the market shattered all
| regional and legal barriers and all the Medieval corporative
| restrictions that maintained the quality of craft production, it
| also undermined the autonomy and quality of places. This
| homogenizing power is the heavy artillery that has battered down
| all the walls of China.
| andrewstetsenko wrote:
| Hello, everyone! It's Andrew, founder of Relocate.me.
|
| In a nutshell, Relocate.me is a one-stop platform for tech
| professionals who are willing to relocate for work.
|
| Since launching Relocate.me on Hacker News over 3 years ago
| (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15922401), a lot has
| changed, and I'm excited to finally introduce Relocate.me 3.0
| with a batch of new features and enhancements:
|
| 1) Learning center (https://relocate.me/learning-center): A
| treasure trove of useful information and practical advice on
| finding employment abroad.
|
| 2) Companies (https://relocate.me/companies): A handpicked list
| of tech companies hiring internationally; you can filter
| companies by country.
|
| 3) Improved search (https://relocate.me/search)
|
| 4) Calculators (https://relocate.me/net-pay-calculators) to
| estimate your after-taxes paycheck in 20+ countries
|
| 5) "Who Wants to be Relocated?" initiative
| (https://relocate.me/wwbr): A public list of potential tech hires
| promoted among international recruiters.
|
| 6) Non-developer jobs with relocation assistance. Including (but
| not limited to) Product Manager, Design, and Marketing roles.
|
| 7) Telegram channel (https://t.me/relocateme): A quick way to
| keep up to date with new positions as they're posted, relevant
| news, and more.
|
| Thank you so much for reading this far! Our team will be happy to
| hear your feedback.
| rimutaka wrote:
| Andrew, it would be interesting to hear a bit about the
| founding story. One question I'd like to ask is how did you
| acquire the customers in the early days? What was the plan for
| that and what actually worked?
| andrewstetsenko wrote:
| I started a recruitment agency first... After a while, I
| realized that it was almost impossible to scale this business
| as well as to be somehow unique comparing to other recruiting
| firms. It took me around 3 years to negotiate buying the
| Relocate.me domain name and then the Relocate.me story
| started.
|
| It helped a lot that I was in this field for almost 5 years
| before launching Relocate.me. So the first users came through
| the word of mouth and a Product Hunt campaign.
|
| Moreover, we 'manually' invited software engineers to the
| platform, those who somehow expressed their interest in
| moving abroad (haha, this can help -
| https://relocateme.eu/blog/how-to-source-for-software-
| develo...)
| jwagenet wrote:
| I've noticed that projects like this primarily focus on
| recruiting for software roles (which is understandable if they
| are shared here), but what are the roadblocks to listing
| traditional engineering roles (mechanical, electrical, etc).
| Lack of exposure to those industries (understandable)?
| Companies not offering relevant positions?
| jdxcode wrote:
| I would assume the biggest roadblock is they actually build
| physical products
| nonameiguess wrote:
| Non-software engineering disciplines tend to involve
| professional licensing that doesn't necessarily carry over
| automatically to other countries.
| 908B64B197 wrote:
| In my experience, the good ones do.
| andrewstetsenko wrote:
| You've already described the main roadblocks. I suppose that
| those industries have less in-demand vacancies comparing to
| software engineering, as well as companies are not offering
| so many positions with relocation support.
| 908B64B197 wrote:
| I see a bunch of calculator but there's no level bands or
| numbers for compensation when browsing positions.
| andrewstetsenko wrote:
| Good point. Actually we thought about adding this info to
| vacancy pages. However, as our experience shows, many
| companies are not ready to disclose salary info to the
| public.
| dmitrygr wrote:
| Then how do they plan to hide anything above mediocre? Most
| good+ engineers I know will not waste time on an interview
| if they do not know upfront that the company pays a sane
| wage. Else it is a time waste.
| andrewstetsenko wrote:
| I think that quick research about the company can give a
| rough idea about the salary they offer.
|
| In most cases, it's possible to find feedback from past
| employees on Glassdoor.
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| DiggyJohnson wrote:
| Because this project might provide value in aggregating
| and filtering the data (i.e. remote job postings) in
| other ways that still add a lot of value to a certain
| kind of user.
| sokoloff wrote:
| I won't get to an interview without an idea that there's
| a possible overlap in our picture of compensation, but I
| don't mind taking the first 15 zoom call if the job
| otherwise seems interesting.
| 908B64B197 wrote:
| > However, as our experience shows, many companies are not
| ready to disclose salary info to the public.
|
| Depends on the demographic you are trying to attract on the
| platform.
|
| I've done a little bit of tech recruiting and I can tell
| you this: top engineers, no matter the level, get a lot of
| offer. And they won't hesitate to sort by compensation
| (unless of course it's SpaceX).
|
| Really, there are two kinds of businesses out there: those
| that try to make money playing games with compensation and
| CoL adjustments and those who make money building the best
| software out there and scaling. The later won't have any
| problem giving a number: they need the talent right now to
| scale.
| hunglee2 wrote:
| looks like a great resource for the developer community. Where
| do you expect the developers to move from, and move to?
| andrewstetsenko wrote:
| Thanks for the warm words. It's funny, but we did a poll
| yesterday about the most desired work abroad destination
| among 589 developers (exclude my vote - it was Japan). You
| can find the results - https://www.dropbox.com/s/ga2y72eqwcd9
| bp6/Relocate.me%20Marc...
| spockz wrote:
| I know that there are state level taxes as well in the US. Can
| this be included in the calculator?
|
| Also I wonder what the difference in disposable income would be
| given something like (typical) health insurance, food prices,
| and housing per state/area
| andrewstetsenko wrote:
| Thanks a lot for the feedback on the US salary calculator!
| Makes sense... Added this to the backlog
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