[HN Gopher] FreeCAD 0.19 ___________________________________________________________________ FreeCAD 0.19 Author : this_was_posted Score : 76 points Date : 2021-03-21 19:56 UTC (3 hours ago) (HTM) web link (wiki.freecadweb.org) (TXT) w3m dump (wiki.freecadweb.org) | manuel_w wrote: | One thing I absolutely love in the Autocad version we got teached | back in school was the way the selection rectangle worked. | | Drawing the selection rectangle from left to right selects all | lines fully covered by the rectangle. | | Drawing the selecton rectangle from right to left selects all | lines partially or fully covered by the rectangle. | | (Either this, or the other way round.) | | Does FreeCAD or any other free CAD solution support this? I can't | do without this. Which one of the free CAD solutions out there | imitate Autocad 2005 the closest? | scrapcode wrote: | If you click and hold, it becomes a free draw selection tool | with the same rules! | 10000truths wrote: | LibreCAD does the same thing. | iamgopal wrote: | Try ProgeCAD, a bit cheaper alternative, but not free. AutoCAD | is holy grail of 2D CAD. Many cheap alternatives like ProgeCAD | etc are usable but no match to the AutoCAD. AutoLISP is of | added value. | Kliment wrote: | Freecad does this when editing sketches at least. Kicad also | does it. It's great, but very confusing for beginners. | ohazi wrote: | KiCad copied this feature, and I was frustrated by the | "inconsistent behavior" of the selection tool for _years_ until | someone finally explained it to me. | | _Now_ it 's great, but if you're going to copy features like | this, please make sure to document them so that people trying | to learn how to use your tool without the requisite historical | perspective don't get frustrated. | | Eventually computing is going to get to the point where it's no | longer possible to learn _all_ of the historical baggage around | why things are done a certain way. For a lot of people, we 're | already there. | exmadscientist wrote: | The usual UI indication for a feature like this is for the | selection rectangle to be green in one mode, blue in the | other. Or something along those lines. | | As so many submissions around here demonstrate, though, UI | design ain't what it used to be. | NathanielK wrote: | There's also frequently a dotted border for inclusive | selection and a solid border for exclusive selection. Very | subtle. Makes it easy to remember which is which if you | know how roads work. | rhodozelia wrote: | I had a drafting course as part of my ee degree. It was | mostly paper and pencil drawing shapes from different | perspectives but it did have an autocad component once we | were supposed to know what to draw. One of the first things | they taught us was this selection feature. | baybal2 wrote: | I use SolidWorks on a dedicated workstation. | | FreeCAD is far from it in terms of number of geometric tools, and | especially 3D path stroking. | | Freeform surfaces are a great pain in any CAD, but FreeCAD barely | does even basics. | | To catch up to SolidWorks, FreeCAD needs like tenfold increase in | effort for the geometry kernel. | aklemm wrote: | How well does FreeCAD meet needs of amateur builders, tinkerers, | and diy-ers? Say for example 3d printing, small home additions, | etc.? | this_was_posted wrote: | I use it quite a bit for 3D printing. Its user interface is a | bit daunting at first but with the part design workbench I'm | now able to create moderately complex parametric parts in a | matter of minutes. Commercial software might be more feature | rich and intuitive but freecad comes along nicely | IshKebab wrote: | It's still at the very unintuitive stage. I've done loads of | CAD in loads of different programs and still struggled to | figure it out. | | If you want to do simple CAD e.g. for 3D printing and you must | use FOSS then I would recommend SolveSpace instead. It has some | awkward flaws (most notably there's no bevel/chamfer feature) | but aside from that it is much much better and easier to use | than FreeCAD. | | If you don't want to punish yourself by using FOSS then I would | either way use Fusion360 and put up with their recently gimping | of the free version, or simply pirate Solidworks. It's still by | far the easiest CAD software to use, though the latest versions | are getting kind of bloated. | | FOSS CAD is not in a good shape yet. | | Off topic, but until recently I would have said the same for | EDA. Kicad may be powerful but it was also apparently designed | by a UX sadist. Even if you are really familiar with other EDA | tools it still makes approximately zero sense and has loads of | weird "features" (like if you drag a component in the schematic | it doesn't bring it's wires with it!) Eagle and gEDA are even | worse. | | Fortunately there's at least one decent FOSS EDA program now: | Horizon EDA. There's also LibrePCB which I haven't tried, but | Horizon is good and pretty easy to use (it has a rather | confusing and over-complicated component/gate system but you | can mostly ignore that). | antattack wrote: | Horizon EDA is nice, with push and shove router (from KiCAD), | but I truly dislike (in addition to part management you | mentioned) that instead of highlighting track/part/via it | draws, often ambiguous, ugly, bracket around it. | | FreeCAD is great and very capable (I used Fusion 360 before) | if you spent more time with it and switch to glass add-on and | other tweaks. Program defaults make it unappealing. | mypalmike wrote: | KiCAD's UI isn't that bad. I was productive almost | immediately using it, and it was my first exposure to PCB | design. I can't say the same for FreeCAD though. :-) | IshKebab wrote: | That is very surprising. Though I guess if you haven't used | any other EDA software maybe you just didn't notice the | really bad bits. | | Give Horizon a try - it's really much better! | TomVDB wrote: | Weird. I gave up on Eagle before I was able to get PCB ready | for manufacturing, but I found KiCad to be very intuitive. | (Except when importing external libraries, that's one horror | show.) | gerdesj wrote: | I have a 3D printer (Prusa) on my dining room table, just to | the left of my laptop with extra monitor. I run Arch on the | lappy. | | I'm a PHB! When I'm not doing PHB things, I indulge my guilty | pleasures. | | OpenSCAD is pretty much tamed by me now. I'm not an expert by | any means but I can design and print a mount for my Doorbird to | toe it in towards the ringer. I use FreeCAD with my browser | open to look up what to do. It is rather good and keeps on | improving. I'm aware of Blender but it scares me. LibreCAD is | available. I use SweetHome3D for home/office related stuff. | | We have a decent pool of open source tools for CAD. FreeCAD is | extremely capable already and keeps on getting better. I used | to run it on Gentoo a few years back and simply getting it to | compile was a pain. It is rapidly improving but do make sure | you keep incremental backups for important work. | | Have a look at this lot for some idea of what is on offer: | https://wiki.freecadweb.org/Tutorials Those are quite old and | there is a lot more on offer. | nikaspran wrote: | I use it for 3D printing mainly. It's pretty good, but 0.18.x | had some annoying bugs (i.e. it would occasionally just crash, | wiping everything since the last time you saved). Nothing show- | stopper if you save often and don't do anything too crazy. | | I personally prefer Fusion 360 (it feels sleeker and is way | more usable with a touchpad), but it's definitely a viable | choice. | ur-whale wrote: | Freecad's UI is _awful_ | | But then so is Autocad's | | TBH, neither are real 3D modeling softwares. | | In both packages, you have do all your thinking in 2D, which is | ideal if you did learn to design parts back in the 20th century | with paper and pen, and an absolute torture if you did with | real 3D software in the modern computer era. | | For example, building a _real_ 3D curve, i.e. something that | has actual 3D curvature and no simple plane projection is | simply a nightmare. | fimdomeio wrote: | I have a version on mac that crashes when I click some cancel | buttons. I just learned not to click them. Other than that I | serves all my modeling needs for 3d printing. | calvinmorrison wrote: | In contrast to FreeCAD I have been using openSCAD. You define | basic 3D objects and do transforms, etc on them. It's kind of | programming, more like a domain specific language. | | Here's a tube, which we can think about like the difference of | two cylinders. | | Writing and refactoring into modules (functions) is very | natural and allowed me to get more perspective about the | relationships of my models module | Tube(height, width, thickness) { difference() { | cylinder(h=height, r=width); | cylinder(h=height,r=width-thickness); }; }; | swetland wrote: | Definitely some rough edges, and like most CAD systems it has a | pretty steep initial learning curve, but I've been surprised at | how useful it is. Finding a recent youtube tutorial or two can | help with getting started (sadly the wiki/docs are a bit | sparse). | | I feel like it's not as far along as say KiCad or Blender as | far as "competitive with commercial offerings" open source | tooling goes, but development is very active and it seems to be | improving at an impressive rate. | TkTech wrote: | Perfectly well. I've used it for models to be 3D printed, as | well as plans for building a greenhouse. | | It's ugly, it occasionally breaks your models, and it's capable | of doing anything you could possibly want it to. It's like Gimp | (before the new UI) vs. Photoshop. | | There are lots of tutorials, but the quality is all over the | place, and a lot of the wiki articles are out of date. The best | way to learn FreeCAD (in my opinion) is to find something you | want to accomplish (fix that broken part in the dishwasher) and | experiment until you get the hang of it. | antattack wrote: | If you have "rage-quit" FreeCAD in the past, like I have, here | are few tips to make it more palatable: | | Install PieMenu addon | | Install Glass addon | | Enable TreeView | | Make icons larger so it's easier to tell what function they are | for. | floatboth wrote: | Uninstalled Glass because the transparent area is not click- | through (and it covers the whole area vertically) >_< | | My must-have is the workspace selector one that makes them | buttons instead of that drop-down. | jbay808 wrote: | The TechDraw improvements in this version are a big deal. They've | made it good enough for me to make actual shop drawings with | proper tolerances, section views, and so on. | dang wrote: | If curious, related past threads: | | _FreeCAD Simulator_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25098981 - Nov 2020 (13 | comments) | | _FreeCAD BIM development news_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24951311 - Oct 2020 (23 | comments) | | _FreeCAD: A free and open source multiplatform 3D parametric | modeler_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24513340 - Sept | 2020 (268 comments) | | _A Computational fluid dynamics (CFD) workbench for FreeCAD_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23787391 - July 2020 (4 | comments) | | _FreeCAD on Raspberry Pi 4_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22347385 - Feb 2020 (36 | comments) | | _Parametric CAD modeling for open source scientific hardware: | OpenSCAD / FreeCAD_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22270981 - Feb 2020 (1 | comment) | | _FreeCAD BIM development news December 2018_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18800484 - Jan 2019 (22 | comments) | | _FreeCAD 0.17 "Roland" released_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16790814 - April 2018 (58 | comments) | | _FreeCAD Arch development news_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14480294 - June 2017 (44 | comments) | | _FreeCAD 0.16 release notes_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11533435 - April 2016 (75 | comments) ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2021-03-21 23:01 UTC)