[HN Gopher] America's bald eagle population continues to soar
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       America's bald eagle population continues to soar
        
       Author : infodocket
       Score  : 271 points
       Date   : 2021-03-24 16:02 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | jimmaswell wrote:
       | I never saw them as a kid, then one day they started showing up
       | along the Hudson River again. They don't seem to stray far from
       | the water though.
        
       | blueberry_47 wrote:
       | X years into living in an area where bald eagles are "common" I
       | still act like a little kid when I see one. Stunning birds.
        
       | kebman wrote:
       | Man, I really want to see one some day! Made me think of this
       | story telling of an eagle allegedly swooping down and snatching a
       | toddler right from the ground on the island Leka in Norway. She
       | was apparently playing in a blanket, so the talons didn't scratch
       | her, but she was carried almost two kilometres away. The ordeal
       | triggered a search party that eventually found her almost 200
       | metres up the mountain side, unschated. Norwegian source:
       | https://www.nettavisen.no/artikkel/ble-svanhild-2-tatt-av-or...
       | So if you live in eagle territory, you better watch your
       | children. ;)
       | 
       | Anyway, I remember trying to video those things where I grew up.
       | But they were pretty shy, so I could never get close enough to
       | get a good picture of them. Really amazing bird though not Bald
       | Eagles given that I'm from Europe. If you've got the patience and
       | the equipment to get good pictures of those, then kudos to you,
       | because that's not easy!
        
         | lostlogin wrote:
         | I wish the Haast eagle was still around. They were just massive
         | and hunted Moa. They were likely hunted by humans.
         | 
         | I guess I should be careful what I wish for.
         | 
         | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haast%27s_eagle
        
           | mkl wrote:
           | I think it's more that all the big birds the eagles hunted
           | were hunted by humans. It wasn't just moa, the other big
           | birds are gone too. E.g. search for New Zealand here:
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_gigantism
        
             | lostlogin wrote:
             | > Island gigantism, or insular gigantism
             | 
             | These are great terms. Thanks.
        
         | farnsworth wrote:
         | Move to Seattle, I used to see one almost every day on my
         | commute where it would hang out above the 520 bridge,
         | presumably fishing in Lake Washington.
        
         | mongol wrote:
         | Why did the eagle not start to feast on her?
        
         | 0xfaded wrote:
         | I've shared a thermal wingtip to wingtip with one soaring under
         | a hang glider.
        
       | datavirtue wrote:
       | Pun intended
        
       | hctaw wrote:
       | I wonder if they can do anything about the carp problem in the
       | midwest
        
       | hprotagonist wrote:
       | There's a nesting pair near my house these days. Majestic looking
       | birds, and they sound like seagulls with brain damage :)
        
         | ahelwer wrote:
         | Absolute lies, they sound exactly like a red-tailed hawk.
        
           | reportingsjr wrote:
           | You've been watching too many movies then!
           | https://youtu.be/PQ2uMauyBow?t=35
           | 
           | I was doing some trail building this last fall and there was
           | a red tailed hawk nest across the valley. It was pretty
           | amazing to hear that classic "eagle" call every now and again
           | while working.
        
             | ISL wrote:
             | I'm fairly certain that GP was making a joke.
        
               | reportingsjr wrote:
               | I assumed as much, but wanted to provide info to people
               | who might not be aware while also making a bit of a joke
               | myself.
        
               | jimmyed wrote:
               | OP = original poster GP = ?
        
               | wnevets wrote:
               | Grand Parent?
        
               | NortySpock wrote:
               | Grandparent Poster, so two (or more) replies above.
        
               | Igelau wrote:
               | OPP = other people's posts
        
             | nowandlater wrote:
             | lol, they definitely sound like monkeys.
        
       | jimmyed wrote:
       | My stomach was ready to drop towards the end of the sentence, but
       | the climax made my heart soar.
        
       | funkattack wrote:
       | Does remembering this:
       | https://www.upi.com/Archives/1982/06/09/Americas-bald-eagle-...
       | make me old?
        
         | Igelau wrote:
         | Remembering West Germany is indeed a symptom of the oldness.
        
       | TheCondor wrote:
       | Xcel Energy has a great Bald Eagle camera near one of their
       | energy generation plants in Colorado
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAy3rgJszQg
       | 
       | It's insanely addictive. Over 40 eaglets have hatched out of
       | there since they've been counting. Also potentially interesting
       | to this crowd, the energy plant is natural gas but was originally
       | a thorium nuclear plant.
        
       | duxup wrote:
       | I grew up living along the Missouri River. Eagles of any sort
       | were a rare site as a child. It was a big deal when we saw one or
       | one visited the area for a while. The small town paper would even
       | publish photos and stories when was nearby near for a while.
       | 
       | After nearly two decades I left the area and sightings of bald
       | eagles were just run of the mill every day events like any other
       | bird.
       | 
       | I live elsewhere now and a couple pairs of bald eagles live in a
       | urban / suburban area near me seemingly quite healthy and happy.
       | 
       | It has been a pretty amazing change.
        
       | snarf21 wrote:
       | This is great news. It is really about the pesticides more than
       | anything else. In my area, hawks are _EVERYWHERE_. I see at least
       | 1 every 5 miles along the highway (farmland) watching for food.
       | This was not true 20 years ago.
        
         | uberdru wrote:
         | This is true in my experience as well. I have not seen any
         | discussion of it, but, man, there are a lot of hawks, harriers,
         | and, yes, bald eagles where there used to be very few.
        
         | azinman2 wrote:
         | Well people also used to shoot and stuff the bald eagle
         | specifically because it was the national symbol. I believe
         | that's what drove down the population a long time ago.
        
           | acdha wrote:
           | That was a factor but a bigger one was widespread use of DDT:
           | 
           | https://www.fws.gov/midwest/eagle/history/index.html
        
         | ryanmcbride wrote:
         | Anecdotally I've been seeing a lot more birds of prey in my
         | area over the last 10 years or so too. They're so cool to
         | watch.
        
         | ogre_codes wrote:
         | Pesticides are the more recent threat, but their numbers were
         | hit pretty hard prior to DDT by hunting. Congress put a stop to
         | that in the 40s. Farmers saw them as a threat to livestock.
        
           | slowhand09 wrote:
           | Hunting... Eagles existed in such large numbers and predated
           | on small lifestock. For 36 years, Alaska paid a bounty of $2
           | per dead eagle. They had a confirmed 120,195 eagles which
           | bounty was paid on.
           | 
           | http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=baldeagle.printerf.
           | ..
        
         | NittLion78 wrote:
         | You still see a lot of them being brought into wildlife rescue
         | hospitals for lead poisoning from having eaten birdshot or in
         | some other way ingesting fired ammunition. Seems to be the
         | biggest issue in the Midwest for them, anyway.
         | 
         | Either way, as a kid I remember being told to assume you'd
         | never see one and they'd probably be extinct in my lifetime.
         | Now I couldn't even tell you how many I've seen, from as far
         | east as PA and north to AK.
        
           | JoeAltmaier wrote:
           | I see reports about 'a dozen' etc suffering from lead
           | ingestion. But no national statistics, just anecdotes.
           | 
           | Considering that hunters shoot millions of lead bullets each
           | year, it seems a small problem? It's suggested that birds eat
           | guts from eviscerated animals that hunters leave behind.
           | Perhaps a policy of burying or scattering the guts would
           | solve the problem?
        
             | hkarthik wrote:
             | It's a much smaller scale problem than the pesticide issue.
             | 
             | Here in Northern California, we're actually unable to use
             | poisons on pest rodents like squirrels and rats since they
             | often enter the ecosystem through raptors ingesting them.
             | 
             | My friends with a lot of land were advised to get pellet
             | guns and air rifles to deal with their squirrel problems.
             | It's considered the lowest impact to the ecosystem and food
             | chain.
        
       | WalterBright wrote:
       | They are always circling over my yard, as they have a nest in the
       | nearby greenbelt.
       | 
       | The fun thing is there's a line through my property. The eagles'
       | territory is west of the line, the hawks' is to the east.
       | Sometimes they fight over the location of that line.
       | 
       | The hawks are half the size of the eagles, but they don't take no
       | ** from the eagles, and it's a fair fight. The hawks usually win
       | the tussle and drive the eagles back over the line. It's like a
       | WW1 aerial dogfight.
       | 
       | And this is in the middle of the Seattle metropolitan area.
        
       | subsubzero wrote:
       | In California I have never seen a bald eagle(besides a zoo), and
       | I have lived here almost 90% of my life, both north and south.
       | Having lived in Colorado for a few years they were seen somewhat
       | regularly, maybe once every 2 months or so, One day I saw three
       | in one day and was blown away.
        
         | robinsord wrote:
         | Did you never leave your house? They're literally everywhere in
         | Ojai. You can go on a walk at the lake and see them nesting
         | 24/7 in broad daylight.
        
       | thruhiker wrote:
       | I was rafting in Montana last summer and we got the treat of
       | seeing several osprey and eagles during our trip. Such cool birds
       | of prey!
        
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       | tomatotomato37 wrote:
       | I find it amusing the article had to clarify the lower 48 states.
       | In the majority of the United States bald eagles are a rare and
       | majestic sight. In Alaska they are on par with seagulls.
        
         | tshaddox wrote:
         | > In the majority of the United States bald eagles are a rare
         | and majestic sight.
         | 
         | I didn't realize this until recently. I grew up in Missouri in
         | the 1990s, where they were relatively common outside of town.
         | You'd still point them out to other people when you saw one,
         | but it wasn't a huge deal. Then I went to the Oakland Zoo a few
         | years ago and they seemed to be a very popular attraction.
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | Not to take anything away from seeing a bald eagle, but for a
           | lot of children that live in the city, seeing regular
           | livestock like a cow in person is a rare thing. The same
           | could be said for the night sky. It's all a matter of
           | vantage. You can see lots of things as photographs on
           | websites in great detail, but the first time you see that
           | same thing in real life with your own eyes even if it is in
           | less detail, it is an experience one doesn't forget.
        
         | Arrath wrote:
         | Oh yeah. Very majestic birds, until you see a dozen of 'em
         | squabbling over prime spots on the village garbage scow. Alaska
         | is on an entirely different level.
        
         | duxup wrote:
         | They're common in a lot of areas now even in the lower 48.
        
         | nightski wrote:
         | We see them all over in Minnesota/North Dakota.
        
           | boomboomsubban wrote:
           | If I'm reading their survey correctly, those states have
           | relatively few bald eagles. The reason I checked is that I
           | also remember seeing them often in SD, but was never sure if
           | it was a bald eagle or my parents didn't know/were lying to
           | me. I'm still unsure, they exist but I've never seen a flock
           | like that picture posted here.
        
             | xkde wrote:
             | Last I checked, Minnesota had the largest population in the
             | lower 48. I personally see them all the time.
        
               | boomboomsubban wrote:
               | The survey details are very confusing, the terms change
               | from the legend to the table, but I did not notice that
               | the border chosen seperates Minnesota from the Dakotas.
               | The Dakotas have relatively few I meant.
        
         | eevilspock wrote:
         | _" According to scientists from the Service's Migratory Bird
         | Program, the bald eagle population climbed to an estimated
         | 316,700 individual bald eagles in the lower 48 states."_
         | 
         | Alaska Department of Fish and Game[1]:
         | 
         |  _" Found only in North America, bald eagles are more abundant
         | in Alaska than anywhere else in the United States. The Alaska
         | population is estimated at 30,000 birds."_
         | 
         | So you think they bent over backwards, and dishonestly at that,
         | for a 10% change in reported count?
         | 
         | Also, "on par with seagulls"?
         | 
         | ---
         | 
         | [1] http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=baldeagle.main
        
           | dmoy wrote:
           | Also note that 30k Alaska number is from 2008
        
           | resist_futility wrote:
           | "Amusing"
           | 
           | "on par with seagulls" meaning seeing 100 in one single area
        
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         | cgh wrote:
         | We have a couple thousand of them in my town on a seasonal
         | basis every year because they feed on the spawning salmon. They
         | are a bit of a tourist attraction.
        
           | timmg wrote:
           | Holy crap. Now I want to be a tourist in your town :)
           | 
           | Er, which town is it?
        
             | standeven wrote:
             | Not sure which town the parent was referring to, but we
             | have this in Chilliwack, BC.
             | 
             | https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/incredible-sight-
             | thousands-o...
        
         | UI_at_80x24 wrote:
         | I live in the Great Lakes region and I have seen several over
         | my life span.
        
         | mkl wrote:
         | Tangentially, why do Americans call their middle 48 states the
         | "lower 48"? Alaska is north of them and Hawaii is south of
         | them. Does "lower" mean "east" somehow? If lower meant south as
         | on a map, the actual lower 48 would be everything except Alaska
         | and Minnesota.
        
           | alanbernstein wrote:
           | Well, they're the "lower 48" in terms of the date of
           | admission to the union...
        
           | senkora wrote:
           | My first thought was that the term could've predated Hawaii
           | becoming a state, which only happened in 1959. But that seems
           | to be false; the term only started getting popular around
           | 1967: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Lower+48&
           | year_...
        
           | vermontdevil wrote:
           | Just wait till you learn of Down East.
        
           | oasisbob wrote:
           | "Lower 48" is a term from Alaska, and predates Hawaii's
           | statehood. ie, an updated version would be "Lower 49".
        
             | whyenot wrote:
             | ...but Alaska and Hawaii both became states at almost
             | exactly the same time (January and August 1959). Maybe it
             | makes sense if Alaska considered themselves a state in the
             | years before they officially became one? Otherwise, there
             | would be no need for the "lower" part.
        
               | fermienrico wrote:
               | It's practical to call the collective states with joint
               | borders. For example, "Lower 48 shipping" on Amazon is
               | different rate.
        
         | jachee wrote:
         | Can confirm.
         | 
         | In Juneau the best place to find them between salmon runs is
         | near the landfill.
        
           | jeh993 wrote:
           | Years ago, we were shooing a documentary in Valdez and needed
           | the quintessential bald eagle shot. After looking everywhere,
           | we asked the locals where to find them. They said the dump.
           | We got our shots.
        
       | nashashmi wrote:
       | I had the fortune of seeing two bald eagles at a landfill.
       | Apparently they are very common at landfills.
        
       | kibwen wrote:
       | Relatedly, peregrine falcons were removed from the endangered
       | species list in 1999 after decades of conservation efforts. Since
       | 2002 there's been a persistent falcon nest up on the 40th floor
       | of Pittsburgh's Cathedral of Learning, here's a live feed (looks
       | like the mother just laid her third egg two days ago and the
       | falcons have begun incubating): https://www.aviary.org/birds-
       | habitats/live-streams/
       | 
       | EDIT: Aaaand yep, there's the fourth egg. :)
        
         | mkl wrote:
         | Less relatedly than they might seem though. Falcons are more
         | closely related to parrots than to eagles.
        
       | PostThisTooFast wrote:
       | Aren't bald eagles profoundly stupid?
       | 
       | I won't draw the obvious parallel...
        
       | wiredfool wrote:
       | Bald Eagles are HUGE.
       | 
       | You don't realize it until one drops out of a tree near you and
       | flies off. Either that or you see them feeding on road kill deer.
        
         | yardie wrote:
         | I didn't realize how large they were.
         | 
         | But I saw one at the top of an electrical tower and from the
         | ground it was large but not gigantic. Much later on they took
         | the nest down and it was the size of a Mini! Yes, the British
         | car.
        
         | danaliv wrote:
         | I get fly-bys from bald eagles in the traffic pattern at an
         | airport I frequent. Even from the cockpit they look enormous.
         | Definitely don't want one of those monsters to wind up on a
         | leading edge.
         | 
         | Incidentally it's interesting how many raptors seem to like
         | hanging around in airport traffic patterns. I realize there's a
         | bit of a selection bias here, but I do work at similar
         | altitudes away from airports and sightings aren't nearly as
         | common out in the field. I like to think they're reminding the
         | metal birds who's boss.
        
           | soperj wrote:
           | Likely to do with hot tarmac making it easier to catch a
           | upward current.
        
             | danaliv wrote:
             | Funny thing is I never see them (or any other raptors)
             | thermaling over pavement, not even factoring in a thermal
             | getting skewed by wind.
        
           | bengale wrote:
           | I used to have an office that overlooked an airport (in the
           | UK), and I used to watch the birds of prey taking rabbits off
           | the grass surrounding the runways. Seemed to be a lot of them
           | on there, I guess since its a fairly big area where they
           | don't get disturbed.
        
             | danaliv wrote:
             | I've wondered if it's something like that--a wide open
             | space where the prey is easier to see.
        
         | sethammons wrote:
         | Wait til you see Golden Eagles :) We have a mating pair of
         | Balds and it is fun to watch their young get bigger and then
         | take off. Every year around the same time, we have a giant
         | Golden that cruises around the lake and forest. The first time
         | I saw it, I couldn't believe how big it was. Like, over a 7ft
         | wingspan. I realize Balds are close, but this Golden one is a
         | monster.
        
           | gcheong wrote:
           | There's some video on YouTube of Golden Eagles pulling young
           | mountain goats off mountain cliffs to kill for food. On the
           | flip-side, seeing our "majestic" Baldies scavenging for food
           | at an Alaskan trash dump like a common seagull was a bit
           | incongruous with my image of them until that point as well.
        
           | dboreham wrote:
           | Came to say the same thing: Bald Eagles are I think regular
           | sized. Golden Eagles are like "whoa, someone zoomed that
           | eagle to 3X".
        
           | SigmundA wrote:
           | There is variation, some balds are bigger too especially more
           | north. Generally though the two are almost identical in size:
           | https://www.avianreport.com/bald-eagle-wingspan-versus-
           | birds...
        
           | kirubakaran wrote:
           | Wait till you see Albatrosses :) 11ft wingspan :-p
        
             | wiredfool wrote:
             | An albatross isn't likely to drop out of a fir and fly off
             | in a huff while I'm figuring out why the chickens are
             | seriously unhappy.
             | 
             | Also, semi off topic -- Great horned owls like using
             | inflatable pools as bird baths.
        
         | arethuza wrote:
         | Sounds like the couple of times I've seen white tailed eagles
         | near where I live in Scotland - I can see why they are called
         | "flying barn doors".
        
         | wirrbel wrote:
         | I am always reminded of this meme
         | 
         | https://img.ifunny.co/images/70898eeb8bc2323e320aca74b03bb9a...
         | 
         | "Basically a glorified seagull"
        
       | abstractbarista wrote:
       | Wow, this is great to hear! I'm in North Carolina, and we have a
       | beautiful (man-made) lake called Jordan Lake where the eagles can
       | be frequently seen. I've been out on boats before and watched
       | them grab fish out of the water. Then you see them fly up to a
       | nest and chill. :) It's truly amazing.
        
       | ehaskins wrote:
       | The National Eagle Center in Wabasha, MN has several eagles which
       | were injured now live there.
       | 
       | Definitely worth the trip to stand within 10ft of several Eagles,
       | and there are usually plenty of wild eagles within sight of there
       | as well.
       | 
       | https://www.nationaleaglecenter.org
        
         | abcanthur wrote:
         | More anecdata, I know of a catfish processor a few miles inland
         | from the Mississippi River (the bluffs of the Mississippi are
         | one of their favorite habitats) in Wisconsin where they scatter
         | fish carcasses in the fields during the winter. I have seen
         | flocks of no less than one hundred bald eagles in the field and
         | roosted in the nearby trees. This is interesting to me
         | regarding the view of Bald Eagles as apex predators (America!)
         | or scavengers (like seeing them at a landfill). They are
         | certainly both. I've gotten within yards of them a few times
         | while cycling in the same area; they will be feeding on
         | roadkill and they fly off just as I quietly roll up to them.
         | They are huge, beautiful, totally majestic, very believable to
         | imagine them flying off with a small lamb or nightmare
         | scenario, a toddler.
        
       | roland35 wrote:
       | Lots of bald eagles are around Ohio now too! I never remember
       | seeing any 20 years ago but now we have a few nests in our
       | neighborhood.
        
       | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
       | We have them on Long Island. In fact, a nesting pair has been in
       | a nearby town for a few years. They have their own Facebook
       | group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/baldeaglesofcenterportNY
       | 
       | Centerport is a fairly well-off community, so they have some
       | powerful allies (and you see some expen$ive camera gear).
       | 
       | Their call is...unimpressive. I call it "The call of the sick
       | gull."
       | 
       | The classic "eagle" call is actually a redtail (we have them,
       | too).
        
         | alistairSH wrote:
         | _Their call is...unimpressive. I call it "The call of the sick
         | gull."_
         | 
         | I had to Google it. So true. Like a song-bird crossed with
         | nails-on-chalkboard.
         | 
         | And the red-tail, which I have heard locally, is the stuff of
         | (mouse/snake) nightmares.
        
           | boulos wrote:
           | Movies often dub a redtail hawk scream over bald eagle
           | footage!
           | 
           | https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=156187.
           | ..
        
           | eventualhorizon wrote:
           | Can confirm. Have Red Tail nesting pair in my back yard. Have
           | heard them a couple of times today.
        
       | 29athrowaway wrote:
       | Bald eagles eat fish and other animals like squirrels and prairie
       | dogs. The size and health of the bald eagle population is also an
       | indicator of the health and size of the species they use as food.
        
         | ryanianian wrote:
         | You'll also see collars of domestic dogs and cats in raptor
         | nests. This is a frightening new thing to watch for in the
         | semi-rural area near my parents' house. They're used to looking
         | out for coyotes and raccoons which can be dangerous to pets.
         | It's comparatively harder to eagle-proof a back yard.
        
           | hinkley wrote:
           | I know of someone who keeps hawks away from his chickens by
           | interrupting flight paths into and out of his yard with
           | plants of various size and spacing.
           | 
           | Trees and trellises should help, but if you want a tiny dog
           | and a big playground for your riding lawnmower, you're in for
           | some disappointments.
        
       | dclaw wrote:
       | Happy to finally see them soaring here in California. Around this
       | time last year I finally spotted one in the wild flying above my
       | yard, it was tagged and everything. Gorgeous site to see.
        
       | hinkley wrote:
       | Are all of these birds from the same 800 bird gene pool or were
       | birds relocated from Canada and Alaska?
        
       | cooperadymas wrote:
       | While not related to the bald eagle population rise, which has
       | been going up for over a decade, I heard a theory about third and
       | fourth order effects of the pandemic that involved rise in
       | predator species like eagles.
       | 
       | Basically, with fewer cars on the road for a large stretch of
       | last spring, small critter populations would boom since
       | automobile death is one of the leading modern causes of death in
       | young critters.
       | 
       | With the population of small animals on the rise, predators would
       | have more accessible food sources allowing their populations to
       | rise over the following years.
       | 
       | I have no idea how this is holding up or whether its based in
       | reality but I found it an interesting way to think about
       | unintended consequences of a large shift in the modern way of
       | living.
        
         | abraae wrote:
         | Not sure about in the US but here in NZ, birds of prey such as
         | Australasian Harriers thrive by eating roadkill. It's common to
         | round a corner and find one struggling to take off from the
         | carcass it is eating in the middle of the road.
        
       | NDizzle wrote:
       | I just moved back to Arkansas after being in California for 20
       | years. Here's a picture a local took along AR highway 59. 7 bald
       | eagles hanging out.
       | 
       | https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/155912289_4304...
       | 
       | I have some good shots of one eating breakfast behind my house as
       | well. Kind of gory though.
        
         | metamet wrote:
         | I saw two of them circling my neighborhood in Minneapolis last
         | week. Gigantic, gorgeous wingspans. Few of my neighbors saw me
         | outside looking up in the sky and came out to see what was
         | going on and stood and watched for a bit too.
         | 
         | It's always fun to see them on the drive up north, too. Such
         | cool looking birds.
        
         | bliteben wrote:
         | I go birding in a spot near Astoria, Oregon and have counted
         | over 70 individual bald eagles from one spot, some trees will
         | have 20 alone perched in them.
        
           | gcheong wrote:
           | Grew up in Astoria (70's - mid 80's) and never saw that many
           | at once. Would be interested to know where your spot is :).
           | Although I've never seen them I've seen pictures of Snowy
           | Owls at the South Jetty. https://www.jack-n-
           | jill.net/blog/2012/12/south-jetty-snowy-o...
        
           | steve_adams_86 wrote:
           | According to national eagle center, "The average eagle needs
           | between 1/2 and 1 pound of food each day.". So those animals
           | are harvesting 35-70lb of food (other animals) per day.
           | That's incredible to me! There must be so much life in that
           | area.
           | 
           | https://www.nationaleaglecenter.org/eagle-diet-feeding/
        
             | thaumasiotes wrote:
             | > So those animals are harvesting 35-70lb of food (other
             | animals) per day. That's incredible to me! There must be so
             | much life in that area.
             | 
             | I mean, you could almost certainly harvest more than 70
             | pounds of ants a day without making a dent in the ant
             | population. Eagles can't eat ants, but "pounds of life"
             | doesn't mean much.
        
           | abakker wrote:
           | I was going to say a similar thing. On one drive from SF to
           | Spokane I was driving through central Oregon in the winter.
           | There must have been a bald eagle on every other fence post
           | for 10 miles at one point. counted over 100 birds of prey,
           | most of them bald eagles.
        
         | xiaolingxiao wrote:
         | so much freedom!
        
           | loceng wrote:
           | Actually, yes.
        
           | medium_burrito wrote:
           | I've seen the same in driving up to Vancouver from YVR.
           | Freedom spills over the border!
        
           | allbedarned wrote:
           | helllll yeah brother
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | should have gone with the turkey
        
           | longshui wrote:
           | allow the pigeon to disagree
        
             | throwaway894345 wrote:
             | Bald Eagles don't eat pigeon. Are you thinking of the
             | Peregrine Falcon? Or am I misunderstanding your reference?
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | wnevets wrote:
       | Another environmental regulation success story.
        
       | goshx wrote:
       | There's a nest here in South Florida which a couple uses every
       | year. I hope the neighbor with a drone hasn't caused them to move
       | permanently.
       | 
       | Also, in Cape Canaveral there is a nest on the way to the
       | Apollo/Saturn V center. I was lucky to see one of the eagles
       | resting on top of the building when I went to watch a Falcon 9
       | launch.
        
       | mason55 wrote:
       | Saw one flying over an intersection in suburban Colorado just
       | last weekend. I had seen them "in the wild" before (e.g. while
       | river rafting in PA) but it was interesting to see one while I
       | was just out running errands.
        
         | ngoldbaum wrote:
         | There's a nest and nesting pair you can see really clearly from
         | the wildlife viewing area at Barr Lake State Park, about a mile
         | and a half from the parking lot. Helps to have a telephoto lens
         | or decent pair of binoculars, although when I was there a few
         | weeks ago there were several just hanging out in trees right
         | next to trails.
        
       | gullywhumper wrote:
       | I live about 3/4 mile up river from a nest along the Mississippi
       | River. My office overlooks the river and I keep a log of every
       | time I see one flying by. You can walk almost under the nest, and
       | when they're home you can get a sense of just how large they are.
       | After 4 years of living here it never gets old - I dread the day
       | we have to move.
        
       | citilife wrote:
       | The other day, I saw an eagle hunting over my neighborhood pond.
       | Frankly, I was shocked to see it. Definitely appreciate the
       | wildlife returning.
        
       | disambiguation wrote:
       | This remind me of a PlanetMoney episode from a while ago
       | 
       | > https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2017/02/03/513302816/epis...
       | 
       | > Over time, though, Harris's worldview changed. He started to
       | see the downside to the industrial farming ... To replace the
       | chemical fertilizer, he brought in chickens and let them roam
       | free. Free-range chickens would fertilize the grass; the grass
       | would nurture the cattle, and shoppers at Whole Foods would love
       | Harris's organic beef. ... But then, the eagles started to
       | descend on Harris's farm. Eagles eat chicken. Eagles love
       | chicken.
       | 
       | Since eagles are protected by law, the farmer wasn't allowed to
       | hunt and clear the eagles from preying on his organic operation.
       | 
       | No good deed goes unpunished?
        
         | POiNTx wrote:
         | The Biggest Little Farm[1] is a good documentary on this sort
         | of topic. They started an organic farm and hit a similar pain
         | point when coyotes started eating their chickens. They also had
         | a problem with gophers eating their crops. I don't remember
         | exactly but they were fighting the gophers with something, but
         | it wasn't working that well. The solution was to let the
         | gophers go wild, and the coyotes would take care of them
         | instead of their chickens. They balanced each other out.
         | 
         | Now I don't know how this works with bald eagles, but there
         | might be a similar solution for this.
         | 
         | [1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8969332/
        
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         | jobu wrote:
         | Near the end of that podcast they talk about how Will Harris
         | had evolved his farm to make money off the new flock of eagles
         | that come to the farm:
         | 
         | > _" But Will is resourceful, you know. He keeps trying to
         | cross that gap. At one point as we're driving around the farm,
         | we're next to this field with some chickens in it. And there's
         | a pickup truck coming the other way. Will stops the Jeep to
         | talk to the driver of the truck...."_
         | 
         | > _" In the bed of the truck, there's a guy with a camera with
         | this giant telephoto lens, which is apparently pretty common.
         | People now come to Will's farm to see the eagles. He had this
         | special Eagle Day a few days before I was there. He's even
         | built cabins for people to rent out."_
        
         | sn_master wrote:
         | Can he use drones to scare them? Making noise and lights etc
         | not kinetic force.
        
           | KineticLensman wrote:
           | Eagles can take down small drones that invade their airspace.
           | They are also used to being mobbed by smaller birds.
           | 
           | Eagles have actually been trialled as an anti-drone defence
           | [0]. Although this isn't actually a good idea in the long
           | run. A serious attacker could flood an eagle with a drone
           | swarm, or make drones (e.g. explody, sharper blades) designed
           | to hurt / kill eagles. It also takes considerable time and
           | patience to train an eagle compared with the ease with which
           | drones can be replaced.
           | 
           | [0] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-35750816
        
         | tw04 wrote:
         | Which is why you have dogs to protect your livestock.
         | 
         | I think people forget that man's best friend became that way by
         | doing jobs for us. Want your cattle and chickens protected from
         | wolves, fox, eagles, etc? Train some dogs to protect them.
        
           | whimsicalism wrote:
           | Ah but you see that doesn't scale to industrial size non-
           | industrial farming.
        
           | pueblito wrote:
           | I have guinea hens for pest mitigation and when the coyotes
           | and/or hawks have picked off enough I just buy more. I pay
           | about $2 each, it's not worth getting a trained dog to watch
           | over them, especially since coyotes and raptors do me a huge
           | solid by keeping the cottontail population in check
        
             | tw04 wrote:
             | You can adopt a dog from your local humane society for very
             | little. When I say "train" I mean "find a dog that isn't
             | going to eat your chickens or run away if you can't keep
             | them in a fenced area".
             | 
             | Unless you've actually got cattle you need herded and
             | protected from wolves, pretty much any mutt over 60lbs is
             | going to be good enough to keep the predators away. They'll
             | also be happy to help the rabbits if you let them.
        
           | frankfrankfrank wrote:
           | Are you actually aware of dogs protecting free-range chickens
           | against bald eagles? I am not sure that bald eagles really
           | care about dogs. A bald eagle will swoop down and snatch a
           | chicken or even two and fly away without even landing.
           | 
           | That being said I think an even very loose "netting" that can
           | consist of simply rope criss-crossing with certain gaps can
           | sufficiently dissuade eagles and even other prey birds.
        
             | tw04 wrote:
             | >Are you actually aware of dogs protecting free-range
             | chickens against bald eagles?
             | 
             | At any given time I've got 3-5 bald eagles in the woods
             | around my house. There are 3 houses with chickens in the
             | neighborhood. The eagles won't go anywhere near a yard with
             | a dog - I'm quite confident they aren't dumb enough to
             | tangle with a large dog unless they have no other option
             | for food.
             | 
             | I have no doubt if an eagle was starving to death it might
             | tangle with the dog and might even win, but I don't think
             | that would be their first, second, or fifth choice if there
             | were other food options.
        
             | Floegipoky wrote:
             | Livestock guardians as a general rule don't protect by
             | fighting, but by convincing the predator that the risk is
             | too high to bother. The guardian alerts and the flock
             | reacts to the danger, seeking shelter, making noise,
             | looking up, etc. Without an easy meal the predator moves
             | on. Arial predators are especially risk-averse because it
             | doesn't take much to cause a mortal injury.
             | 
             | I've even heard of people using guardian geese instead of
             | dogs. They're supposed to be very effective at preventing
             | arial predation and orders of magnitude cheaper than dogs,
             | though I've never heard anyone talk about them in the
             | context of something the size of a bald eagle.
        
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       | alistairSH wrote:
       | Raptors are always amazing to watch. In flight, at rest, nesting,
       | feeding/hunting. So cool.
       | 
       | My house backs a golf course and we currently have a nesting pair
       | of red-tail hawks about 200 yards away. Every once in a while,
       | one soars by with a snake in beak. They also tussle with the
       | local crows (who I assume are tying to snatch eggs).
        
       | rdiddly wrote:
       | This seems as good a time/place as any to remind everyone that
       | the sound an eagle makes isn't the screech Hollywood has made you
       | believe it is (that's a red-tailed hawk). It's actually
       | relatively non-macho (for a superpower's mascot anyway) and
       | sounds like it's laughing.
       | 
       | The hawk says: https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Red-
       | tailed_Hawk/sounds
       | 
       | The eagle says:
       | https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Bald_Eagle/sounds
        
         | WalterBright wrote:
         | I wish hollywood would make a few more recordings. They always
         | use exactly the same one, every time they have a long shot of a
         | wilderness scene. Movies, TV shows, documentaries, everything.
         | 
         | It's worse than the Wilhelm Scream.
        
           | rdiddly wrote:
           | Absolutely, I was already thinking Wilhelm Scream as I
           | finally arrived at those words in your comment!
           | 
           | Edit: What we need is a satirical movie full of in-jokes,
           | like opening a wilderness long-shot with a Wilhelm Scream.
        
           | smazga wrote:
           | There's also a stock audio sound for police radio chatter
           | that is the same as the one in SimCity 2000. Every time I
           | hear that (which is too often) I can't help but think "well,
           | you cheaped out on sound design"
        
             | titzer wrote:
             | I noticed that too! I thought I was going crazy until I
             | started compiling a list of them...
             | 
             | "We need a dispatchment 148...mumble mumble...ksshhh"
             | 
             | [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dklA4-ACN4k
        
         | Isamu wrote:
         | Maybe unpopular, but I like the chuckling screech of the bald
         | eagle. Also barn swallows, they kind of "talk" when they are
         | relaxed.
        
         | post_below wrote:
         | As superpower mascots go, I think the eagle turned out to be
         | pretty much perfect. Large, powerful, masters of their
         | environment, noble from a distance. Up close, easily scared,
         | shameless scavengers who love the opportunity to steal prey
         | from other creatures.
         | 
         | Note: No intention of starting a political conversation, as a
         | resident of said superpower I just love the irony.
        
           | kilroy123 wrote:
           | I've seen one in the wild. Actually a beautiful animal.
        
           | fermienrico wrote:
           | As superpower mascots go, I think the eagle turned out to be
           | pretty much perfect. Large, powerful, masters of their
           | environment, noble from a distance. Up close, intelligent,
           | optimally utilizing resources through scavenging, leaving
           | nothing to waste and who love the opportunity to provide to
           | their young ones and benefit other creatures through
           | symbiosis.
           | 
           | One can spin it whatever which way.
        
           | systemvoltage wrote:
           | If your intent wasn't to start a political flame war, what is
           | the insight you're providing here?
           | 
           | Every animal needs to survive and will do anything to get by
           | including scavenging. That's nature. At this very moment,
           | millions of things are getting eaten alive. Welcome to the
           | brutality of Mother Nature.
           | 
           | It's not very charitable to say something deeply provocative
           | and putting a note to defend. It only reflects your
           | prejudice.
        
             | verall wrote:
             | > Every animal needs to survive and will do anything to get
             | by including scavenging.
             | 
             | Yea, and so do nations. The descriptors they used feel
             | conformable describing both the nation and the mascot. It's
             | not deeply provocative. It is a comparison that is
             | interesting to read, because it describes how nations and
             | animals can act similarly, but on difference scales.
        
         | seriousquestion wrote:
         | TIL! What else is manufactured like this? Anyone know if a big
         | list of examples exists?
        
         | oblio wrote:
         | The whole thing is a lie.
         | 
         | The bald eagle screech is not that of the bald eagle.
         | 
         | Plenty of eagle species are bald yet the "bald" eagle isn't
         | bald.
         | 
         | If you think about it, it's a fantastic metaphor for the US :-p
        
       | partiallypro wrote:
       | There are now bald eagles around here in Nashville. I have never
       | seen one in the wild before until recently. It might not be a
       | good thing, if I'm being honest.
        
       | jjathman wrote:
       | Is there any doubt that in today's political environment we never
       | would be able to pull this same conservation effort off? We'd
       | hear endless reports from Republicans about how DDT really isn't
       | that bad, how scientists are lying, and how we couldn't possibly
       | do anything to "hurt the economy".
        
       | sparker72678 wrote:
       | Nice to get some good news.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | blacktriangle wrote:
         | Not if you're a rabbit.
        
           | Arrath wrote:
           | Or small dog. I was at a campground in Alaska that had plenty
           | of signs posted re: keeping your pets indoors. Well, someone
           | chose to let their little poodle out of their RV and an eagle
           | took a chance to have a snack.
           | 
           | The aftermath looked like someone hit a feather pillow with a
           | shotgun.
        
             | dcanelhas wrote:
             | How small a dog are we talking about? pug/chiuaua-sized?
             | Not sure I understood what actually happened. Did the bird
             | take the dog and leave some feathers behind? Did the dog
             | shred the bird? Did the dog's owner shoot the bird with a
             | shotgun?
        
               | Arrath wrote:
               | The dog wasn't more than 10-15 pounds, miniature french
               | poodle looking thing. Sorry for being unclear, but the
               | aftermath was all the fuzzy dog hair that got scattered
               | everywhere from the impact. Dog was done for, owner
               | didn't have time to react beyond scream and try to get
               | the Park Ranger to "DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE DANGEROUS
               | BIRDS"
        
               | dcanelhas wrote:
               | I've heard of wolves being hunted using golden eagles in
               | Mongolia, they're not much larger than a bald eagle.
               | 
               | I wish the biohackers would bring back Haast's eagle.
        
       | yosito wrote:
       | I was just thinking this past weekend about how bald eagles are
       | endangered and how it would be so cool to see one some day. I'm
       | American, but I've spent very little of the last 10 years in the
       | US. I was taught in grade school that bald eagles were endangered
       | and I had no idea that they were making a comeback. Very cool!
        
       | dcanelhas wrote:
       | I felt compelled to voice my appreciation for the double-entendre
       | of this title.
        
         | umvi wrote:
         | I would say the title is just using a plain old pun... "double
         | entendre" usually implies there is a way to sexually interpret
         | the phrase
        
           | mikeg8 wrote:
           | Bald eagle can also refer to a woman's shaved... aka
           | Brazilian
        
           | dcanelhas wrote:
           | Oh, I didn't know that! I thought the expression simply meant
           | double understanding/meaning.
        
         | pwython wrote:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_entendre
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | frabjoused wrote:
       | I just got back from meeting some friends in Blaine, WA. Bald
       | eagles hanging out everywhere.
        
       | kaycebasques wrote:
       | They became a somewhat common sight for me in Bremerton,
       | Washington and I just saw one in Pittsburgh.
        
       | ravieira wrote:
       | I saw one earlier this year flying over a pond in Southwest
       | Georgia where they seem to be rare. It is truly a beautiful bird!
        
       | nxpnsv wrote:
       | Is there a word for puns that are not jokes, like this title?
        
       | thatwasunusual wrote:
       | Some kind of irony here... /s
        
       | elwell wrote:
       | Relaxing work buddy to keep on your third monitor:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zE6qcgTox8
        
         | alistairSH wrote:
         | Video of video-equipment installation...
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu4Motcpq5A
         | 
         | Not just one random eagle enthusiast, but a whole team of
         | volunteers.
        
       | hermanoreis wrote:
       | Gosh. Started reading the headline and thought: oh no, another
       | NFT? Then I read the rest of the title. :) :)
        
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