[HN Gopher] Google is accelerating reopening of offices and putt...
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       Google is accelerating reopening of offices and putting limits on
       remote work
        
       Author : richardknop
       Score  : 29 points
       Date   : 2021-03-31 22:21 UTC (39 minutes ago)
        
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       | jlawer wrote:
       | I find this interesting that the new economy Google is so set on
       | office work where as Shell (at least in .au) is planning on staff
       | having an office / work from home mix. They have even reduced
       | overall office space so that they don't have enough spaces for
       | all employees to work from some local offices.
        
       | 0xy wrote:
       | Remote work is terrible for productivity especially if the
       | company was not already remote first. In my employer, we've
       | noticed a 30-40% productivity dip across the board. Not only
       | that, but people are reporting more stress and are working
       | unhealthy hours. Replying to emails at 9pm, etc.
       | 
       | The communication breakdowns are constant. Previously you'd
       | absorb information through osmosis, but the watercooler chat
       | about projects and upcoming initiatives has outright stopped.
       | 
       | If in person meetings are 10 in terms of information bandwidth,
       | video calls are less than 6. They're just terrible. Oh, I
       | accidentally interrupted someone yet again because of lag despite
       | us all having fiber internet. Amazing.
        
       | briga wrote:
       | I'm guessing they found that employees aren't as productive when
       | they not obliged to show up to the office every day. Not to
       | mention when they're not provided with a steady stream of free
       | food and coffee.
       | 
       | Fourteen days a year seems pretty limited--weren't Googler's
       | working from home more often than that before the pandemic?
        
         | lupire wrote:
         | That's quite speculative, considering how open offices are
         | terrible for productivity but the companies still require it.
         | Most likely it's just management bias.
        
           | briga wrote:
           | I mean, could it be anything other than speculative when I
           | opened with "I'm guessing"?
        
         | BrissyCoder wrote:
         | Found that my productivity - and that of the team I'm on -has
         | gone through the roof since WFH. I'm on a fairly small team
         | though (2-3 devs). I suspect that productivity changes are
         | different in larger, more corporate settings where it is less
         | conspicuous when a worker abuses the circumstances.
        
       | person_of_color wrote:
       | God no.. remote wirk advocates needed Google
        
       | tyingq wrote:
       | That's interesting, since my assumption is that Google would be
       | fairly data driven. I'd be curious if Googlers feel like this is
       | because they are really seeing reduced productivity, or if
       | there's a different motivation.
        
         | d3ntb3ev1l wrote:
         | Google HR told me "data showed remote doesn't work" I asked for
         | the data and never got it.
         | 
         | I don't work their anymore
        
         | dmitrygr wrote:
         | > Google would be fairly data driven
         | 
         | That _was_ Google. No longer.
         | 
         | Xoogler (2012-2019)
        
       | grillvogel wrote:
       | damn i guess all the megacorps decided to announce today
        
       | castlecrasher2 wrote:
       | As someone who's worked only remotely for several years, this
       | makes sense. I know many will disagree with this assertion but in
       | my estimation in-person collaboration is far better than online-
       | only.
       | 
       | I think the best balance is at least a couple days per week in
       | the office and the rest remote.
        
         | voxl wrote:
         | It's easier, I agree, but I would not say its better.
         | Collaborating online requires documentation, its more effort,
         | but the artifacts you produce can be a lot more useful for
         | everyone involved.
        
         | TeMPOraL wrote:
         | "Couple days per week in the office" kind of defeats the whole
         | point of going remote in the first place.
        
           | mciancia wrote:
           | You can still save some time on commute that way ;)
        
           | mgkimsal wrote:
           | For some people, yes. For others, no.
           | 
           | I've been 'remote' for... 12 years now, but do travel to
           | offices sometimes, and do enjoy being able to do some face to
           | face time with folks, even sometimes for multiple days or
           | weeks at a stretch. The core matter is who decides when I
           | need to be in an office. If it's me or mostly me, it's great.
           | If it's solely at the discretion of others, that's where
           | problems often are (regardless of whether it's full time or
           | not).
        
       | caniszczyk wrote:
       | did everyone starting leaving the hell hole known as Mountain
       | View?
        
       | lupire wrote:
       | What does "accelerating" mean?
        
         | maxerickson wrote:
         | They are opening the offices earlier in the year than they had
         | planned.
         | 
         | Presumably the increasing availability of vaccines factors into
         | it, lots of new information between Nov 1. and the last few
         | weeks.
        
       | bilal4hmed wrote:
       | After spending more than a year remote, full remote is difficult
       | ( not impossible ) . Most of us have settled on 3 days at home, 2
       | days at work, so we can socialize, make new connections or just
       | simply have lunch.
       | 
       | Going back to in office 100% is a thing of the past unless you
       | are a team that has to be there - making hardware etc.
       | 
       | For ex I cant imagine the Pixel team working 100% remote.
        
         | paulcole wrote:
         | > just simply have lunch.
         | 
         | I thought I had to be in an office for this as well then
         | discovered this entire room in my apartment full of mostly
         | unassembled food.
        
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