[HN Gopher] Barrier Reef doomed as up to 99% of coral at risk, r...
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       Barrier Reef doomed as up to 99% of coral at risk, report finds
        
       Author : elorant
       Score  : 40 points
       Date   : 2021-04-03 21:48 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | bb123 wrote:
       | This is so incredibly sad, and I feel so helpless that this is
       | slipping through our fingers. I fear I'll never get a chance to
       | see a coral reef in real life, and it looks almost certain that
       | my children won't. Is there anything we can do as individuals to
       | help? I tried looking into conservation efforts but it seems like
       | any amount of money we could hope to donate isn't going to make a
       | drop of difference to sea temperature change. Coral reefs aren't
       | like tigers or pandas, they're just too delicate and complex to
       | survive in any human made environment.
        
       | deanCommie wrote:
       | What do climate change denialists think about stories like this?
       | 
       | Do they
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       | A) Think it's a complete lie/exaggeraiton, and the Barrier Reef
       | will be fine?
       | 
       | B) Think it's happening but not because of human activity (a
       | massive die off across thousands of kilometers is totally
       | natural, dude)
       | 
       | C) Agree that it's caused by humans, but that it's too late to do
       | anything about (probably true), but that also it's not worth
       | taking action on the REST of our emissions even though it could
       | help prevent extinctions and irreversible ecosystem changes in
       | areas we haven't even discussed yet.
       | 
       | D) Agree that it's caused by humans, but trying to do anything
       | will destroy the economy, and the livelyhood of people that
       | depend on it, so it's not worth doing
       | 
       | E) Agree that it's caused by humans, and renewable energy is
       | cheap enough now that the economy will be fine, but trying to do
       | anything about it will cause a reduction in corporate profits for
       | a couple of companies, so it's not worth doing.
       | 
       | As recently as 10 years ago it feels like most conservatives were
       | in Category A
       | 
       | Looking at the statements of most right-wing politicians, it
       | seems that we are approaching critical mass of entry into group
       | D.
       | 
       | How do people live with themselves knowing the mental gymnastics
       | they are doing to remain "right" and never admit their thinking
       | was flawed in any way shape or form...
        
       | ghostpepper wrote:
       | This is very sad but seems inevitable. Corals are fascinating
       | organisms, behaving as both animals and plants, but more
       | importantly they are the foundation of the ocean ecosystems where
       | they exist. Hundreds of millions of people depend on them
       | indirectly.
       | 
       | If you want to learn more about coral bleaching there is a great
       | documentary called Chasing Coral, available on Netflix and
       | YouTube.
        
         | MattGaiser wrote:
         | The documentary:
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGGBGcjdjXA
         | 
         | Off to watch it now.
        
       | amelius wrote:
       | Perhaps a stupid question, but why wouldn't coral reefs naturally
       | move to colder areas (closer to the poles)?
       | 
       | EDIT: turns out they do: https://e360.yale.edu/features/as-
       | oceans-warm-tropical-coral...
        
         | I_Byte wrote:
         | The problem isn't necessarily that they won't move to colder
         | areas (well that is a problem for coastal regions susceptible
         | to hurricanes, etc, but I digress). The problem is that the
         | waters around those reefs are warming up faster than the reefs
         | could ever possibly hope to move. Reefs are built by corals
         | excreting calcium carbonate onto their attached surface. This
         | process is an incredibly slow one with mature reefs taking many
         | hundreds of thousands of years to form. The reefs can't keep
         | ahead of water temperatures that are projected to change within
         | the next 50 years.
        
         | lmilcin wrote:
         | Acidity increases everywhere and does not depend on
         | temperature.
         | 
         | Also, coral reefs grow extremely slowly.
        
       | mikedilger wrote:
       | Article has no link. Here is the report:
       | 
       | https://www.science.org.au/supporting-science/science-policy...
        
         | mikedilger wrote:
         | The report sites a lot of papers, many of which by one report
         | author Hoegh-Guldberg who has been studying reefs and claiming
         | they are at risk since at least 1999. One of the latest of
         | those papers puts it like this (ideas which the article does
         | not accurately represent):                 "Even if the goals
         | of the Paris Climate Agreement are achieved, coral reefs are
         | likely to decline by 70-90% relative to their current abundance
         | by midcentury."            "Although alarming, coral
         | communities that survive will play a key role in the
         | regeneration of reefs by mid-to-late century. Here, we argue
         | for a coordinated, global coral reef conservation strategy that
         | is centred on 50 large (500 km2) regions that are the least
         | vulnerable to climate change and which are positioned to
         | facilitate future coral reef regeneration."
         | 
         | Hoegh-Guldberg, Ove, Kennedy, E. V., Beyer, H.L., McClennen,
         | C., Possingham, H.P., 2018. Securing a Long-term Future for
         | Coral Reefs. Trends Ecol. Evol. 33, 936-944.
         | https://doi.org/10.1016/j.tree.2018.09.006
         | 
         | They are not "doomed" they are "at risk".
        
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