[HN Gopher] Walletmor Payment Implant
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Walletmor Payment Implant
Author : tomaszs
Score : 26 points
Date : 2021-04-11 21:03 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (walletmor.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (walletmor.com)
| mamp wrote:
| With the rapidly increasing problem of resistance to known
| antibiotics the idea of voluntarily implanting a foreign body in
| yourself seems crazy to me.
|
| WHO says "Antibiotic resistance is one of the biggest threats to
| global health, food security, and development today". But, hey if
| it helps if you forget your phone or watch...
| zffr wrote:
| For EUR199 ($237) why not just get an Apple Watch Series 3
| ($199/$229)?
|
| It also supports payments, can help you improve your health, show
| you the weather, and can even tell you the time ;)
| intricatedetail wrote:
| It's not Apple.
| ddingus wrote:
| What could go wrong?
|
| Might I suggest implanting in your non dominant limb?
| ent101 wrote:
| This is actually a very good point. I'm sure some people won't
| mind cutting a limb just to steal your wallet.
| ddingus wrote:
| Yeah, I was entirely serious. Scary thoughts.
| [deleted]
| walrus01 wrote:
| I'm about 60% certain this is some kind of social commentary
| satire art project, and 40% certain this is actually a real
| company. Something designed to troll the credulous, sort of like
| bonsai kitten.
|
| If it's a real thing: This appears to be linked to the Polish
| domestic banking sector? So primarily of use there. What's
| stopping you from just getting the implant, loading up some
| money/payment method on it, and two-part epoxying it into a 3D
| printed TPU plastic bracelet. Something fitbit sized. Its
| functionality as a payment method does not appear to require it
| to be implanted. You could even glue it into a hard shell of a
| plastic fob and keep it on your keychain.
| mikestew wrote:
| Funny, that's the same arm position I use to pay with my
| Apple/Garmin/Google watch, and I didn't have to consult a medical
| professional to do it.
|
| I don't mean to be dismissive. But such an objection isn't even
| mentioned on the web page. Just "forget about ...Smartpay" (I
| assume that means NFC of some sort). Hey, whoa, back up; how
| about we _not_ forget about it and you folks tell me how this is
| better than a watch.
| amoshi wrote:
| It can't be stolen.
|
| You can't lose it.
|
| You can't forget it.
|
| You don't need to charge it.
| ddingus wrote:
| It can be stolen, and part of you goes with it. Think it
| won't happen? Really?
| amoshi wrote:
| The barrier of entry to theft is raised from pick-pocketing
| and mugging in alleys to chopping off a limb, no doubt
| it'll happen but I'm certain it'll be MUCH much rarer.
| TeMPOraL wrote:
| Yeah, in reality, the common case will be just cutting it
| out of victim's arm with a knife. It's much less messy
| than chopping off a limb, doable very quickly by a team
| of two people (one presenting a threat, other performing
| the field surgery), and doesn't require carrying around
| large cutting tools.
| eptcyka wrote:
| Yes, but that requires a quiet enough location or a
| kidnapping, both of which are far more complicated than a
| regular stealthy pickpocketing.
| amoshi wrote:
| Cutting into people's flesh and taking out an implant
| will discourage petty/squeamish/opportunity thiefs,
| furthermore you'd need to know which arm the implant is
| in and where. I'm not sure about the exact size of the
| implant but cutting it out in a dark alley from a
| bloodied wound will certainly take more effort than
| grabbing a wallet from someone pocket. More effort ->
| Less frequency
| trizzle21 wrote:
| It also only lasts 5 years so you need surgery every 5
| years to replace it
| intricatedetail wrote:
| You still have to use chip and pin every 5 transactions or if you
| go over PS130 whichever comes first? Most terminals in the UK
| require to insert card. Oh.
| lucasmullens wrote:
| Imagine your first credit card. Now imagine you're still stuck
| using it because it's physically embedded in you.
| ent101 wrote:
| Good material for the next Black Mirror season.
| zaczekadam wrote:
| I can't see myself using such product in any foreseeable future
| but I'm interested if there's any demand for this. I can see a
| virality potential.
| wqsz7xn wrote:
| For some reason the 'How It Works' section of this website cracks
| me up. Specifically 'Arrange the installation with a specialist'
| bit. The wording just feels so weird.
| newnamenewface wrote:
| Make sure it's someone you trust! Lol, I usually go to the back
| alley doctor-bankers for my routine payment-procedures.
| Raed667 wrote:
| For payment, absolutely not!
|
| For unlocking a car, a motorcycle, a door, etc.. Could be a cool
| idea.
| smitty1110 wrote:
| I think the TSA will not be amused the first time someone takes
| one of these through a security checkpoint.
| benja123 wrote:
| I am just imagining what happens when your implant details are
| stolen and used for fraud... Will you have to remove it and get a
| new implant?
|
| Seriously though, I am going to assume(hope) this is not real...
| mikeiz404 wrote:
| "the implant does not violate the basic privacy principles and
| does not track your location because it does not have GPS and no
| systems that allow you to spy on or track your location."
|
| I get that this is NFC but how is privacy in all other areas
| handled? What are these privacy principles? Can the data be
| updated without removal?
|
| From the Wikipedia page on the NFC standard mentioned it states
| "In "card emulation mode" an NFC device should transmit, at a
| minimum, a unique ID number to a reader." Is this ID stable? What
| protocol are you using on top of the NFC frame data for payment?
| unnouinceput wrote:
| NoScript says 9 domains are need it for this page to be properly
| rendered. Hard pass.
| danaugrs wrote:
| So if I get this, I will have to worry about potentially paying
| anyone that approaches my wrist with something that could contain
| a radio? Someone should create another startup that embeds tiny
| contactless credit card machines on wrists lol.
| TruthWillHurt wrote:
| Same as a contactless credit card. There are readers on the
| darknet that can read 10 cards per-second.
|
| But at least you could put your card in a protective wallet,
| and card company will refund any fraudulant transactions.
|
| An NRF blocking sleeve perhaps? :D
| vimax wrote:
| You could by a blocking watch that selectively unblocks
| transactions when authorized. Problem solved.
| chrisdsaldivar wrote:
| At that point you may as well just use a smart watch for
| payments.
| koheripbal wrote:
| If it were open source and externally programmable by me alone
| via some private/public key cryptography - I would be ok with
| this.
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